Madeleine McCann jokes

I only have one question before the topic dies.

Why did this (partially) become a discussion about Editor Bob and what he does or does not find funny? Where in his post did he ever say these jokes were funny or were to his personal taste? He simply posted them. The rest of you inferred his opinion according to your own personal biases -- or ignorance.

I once posted a topic regarding a movie about bestiality. Does that mean I fuck horses or advocate horse fucking? No. I just put the information out there and let other people decide what they wanted to think about it. And putting information out there is different from stating an opinion.

This topic has become one of the best ever posted to TT. And beyond that, I've got nothing else to add.

Yeah, I think I snorted at a couple of them. It was a we-must-protect-the-children-I-can't-fucking-stand-paedophiles-and-would-like-neuter-the-sick-fuckers-I-just-want-world-peace type of laugh. You know the kind.

Actually Katrina, I always feel that people with kids get more abuse here from the childless than the other way round (however I am sure someone can sweep in and prove me wrong with post counts). But perhaps that is only me.

After reading your expanded and revised comments in italics Katrina, my opinion is you have a big chip on your shoulder about parents. And I am fully aware you don´t give a damn about my opinion, as I remember once you told me to stay home with my husband and children. when I was out.

And my feelings did change very much on becoming a mother, a lot more weeping, a lot more sensitivity and anguish- basically saying I am now a complete sodden marshmallow when it comes to anything relating to kids, World Vision ads make me cry, I am obsessed with all the abandoned children in orphanages (and would do an Angelina Jolie if I was married to someone who wanted to adopt) and again, that is just me. Parenthood does change some people in my opinion.

And what makes you think childless people don't feel the very same things? Even to greater degrees than you describe?
One thing that can change when people become parents is that they suddenly think their feelings are unique, or that because they didn't feel things so strongly before they had children that everyone else must be like the 'old-them'. All it really does is contrast your old self with the post-child self.. but it doesn't say much at all about anyone else I'm afraid.

But not all. That would be like saying that you hand in your entire personality and get a new one free with a baby at the maternity ward. Some things do change, but not everyone becomes a completely different person.

And I don't agree.
Not after the amount of times where I've stood up for the kids.

Sorry, the whole "oh if you had kids/if you were a parent/wait until you have..." santimonious bollocks fucks me off badly.
Your opinion is no more valid than mine on a sick joke or several.
Mother or not.
It is extremely patronising and quite possibly offensive to think otherwise.

I really can´t comment on other people´s feelings, only my own hormonal (?) changes I experienced.

Edit: and for the record I am positive I wouldn´t have found these jokes funny beforehand either. I am very lucky to hang out with people who think the same (parents or not).

Well he has posted a thread himself about some weird horse sex thing, according to Katrina a few posts back up if you care to read the thread's history.

And judging by some of the posts here I get a feeling who is child friendly herem whether theyx have kids of their own or not.

Parenthood changes you fills you with joy , exasperates you and drives you nuts. It makes you laugh and it can put your bloody back out as it did for me the past two days. But the best thing I ever did. Changed my view of the world in a positive way.

Anyway sod this thread. Voluntary flounce. Far too nice to sit at a PC when its nice in the garden. Bye.

Then you really don't know me.
But that's ok, I can live with that and so can you.

Enjoy the garden, Jeremy!

Horse sex! That is gold. And so obvious in retrospect... I can't believe I never noticed before.


That is an amazing trick. If only it actually worked.


Jeremy, no one denies that you or anyone else enjoys parenthood. But it doesn't automatically make you morally superior and doesn't give you magic abilities like knowing what others home situations are like or knowing what they think about privately in their spare time.

cuz he started the thread. I agree that he has not offered an opinion as to whether he finds the jokes funny or not, but this can also lead to speculation from the spectrum of TT users.

For some people the reason they do not have kids yet, may also simply be that they are still very young. I, for one, definitely want to have kids, just not now. Well, actually, if you asked my heart, I would maybe even want one now, but if you ask my mind, I know it's not the right time yet.

Toytown Germany.
Germany's English speculating crowd.

Did I ever say that?

This thread has travelled a long way hasn't it?

Started off with sick jokes and now has reached the level of whether parents feel morally superior.

I don't think anyone has ever inferred superiority on the behalf of parenthood, just that people with kids of their own are naturally very protective of children and are also probably more sensitive to remarks about the welfare of little ones. Note, i did say probably and not definitively.

Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

yes.



That's probably it then.



Apparently you know who is single too. Well done.

I don't think it's about whether the jokes are funny or not anymore. To be honest, they were pretty crap and robbed of any real shock or comedy value as soon as you remove the joke-tellers voice, facial cues, the circumstances they're told in and most importantly, actually knowing the joke-teller well enough to know that they aren't raving misanthropes.

For me, I find the "Dianafication" of this child, the media circus, the emotional manipulation, the trial by tabloid, to be infinitely more shameful and offensive and worthier food for thought for parents, than some recycled crap Michael Jackson jokes on a community website. What is going on in the world that Murdoch wants to distract ye from now?

Well said, Dave. Nothing is black and white and no-one can be so easily categorised. Probably...

really? I find it pretty tiresome why people always have to generalise about parents/not parents and bring the distinction into threads - why can't you just treat people as individuals. As mentioned before, its not as if you know if the majority of posters have children or not - except for the ones that try and mention their children in every second post or proclaim fatherhood as an interest (should breathing also be added as an interest)


I think you'll find that there are protagonists on both 'sides' who like to divide the world into those who do have and those who don't


labeling becoming a father as 'joining the elite' probably fits into that slot I would say


probably is better than definitively, but I still dont really see the point of bringing it up so often. There are parents that abuse their kids and there are non-parents who are very protective of children - to keep harping on about 'are you a parent' is pretty pointless IMO. As mentioned, especially as you haven't a clue whether many posters have children or not. Some stuff in life may depend on if you are a parent or not, but most stuff, including feelings, doesn't

Good post boomtown_rat.

I agree...very sensibly put, emphasis on the 'probably' point.

The only parents I like are single mothers because I find them easier to lay.

Yeah, good post Bluedave but doesn't really follow with what's been said on this thread and some of the judgements that have been tossed around (in the masturbatory sense).
Boomtownrat has it nailed though (in the hammer-on-the-head sense).

Who said that?

Have a wild guess...

post 34 - usual suspects!

presumably my posts will label me as a 'non-parent' with all the assumptions that that brings - but who knows for sure?

Now that is a sentiment I can agree with. That comment is spot on.

The media is always trying to sink as deep as it can to get you to watch their shows and earn their money.

Damn dirty parents.

I never once said that all non-parents find the jokes funny. I was interested in whether or not any parents found the jokes funny. I didn't mean to imply that all non-parents are callous individuals with blackened hearts.

The jokes are not meant to be funny, they are not meant to make you roll on the floor laughing and I guarantee you no one, parent or not, has done that. The jokes are meant to shock you, to make you roll your eyes, to help you put things into perspective.

They are also meant to separate those who take themselves and their opinions way too fucking seriously from those who actually have a grip on reality.

What happened to Madeleine McCann is a horrible thing but horrible things happen every single day, she's not special and neither are you.

This thread needs more jokes! That's why I clicked on the fricken thread...jokes peeps, discuss boring shite like morality on one of the other poofy threads.

Q) What's worse than finding a dead baby on your pillow in the morning?

A) Realizing you're the drunk Portuguese that made love to it the night before.

Eeeeeeeewwwww.

Apparently the ignore function on this site isn't working either. Somebody fetch Editor Bob from wherever he's perusing horse pornography and daydreaming about pedophilia to see if he can fix it.

I'll bet he doesn't even have children. Hmph! *sniffs*

Well as ER said the jokes aren't funny. A lot of jokes aren't but nobody is forcing you to laugh.

Plenty of experts on TT, unfortunately very few of them in subjects they actually post about. Believe me I know, I post crap all the time, 24/3.

If you want to make a point, make it and ramble on. If it's well made you won't need to come back and defend it. So maybe think about what you post, even for a few seconds.

If you want to attack somebody, or place yourself on the moral high ground do so, just don't expect anybody to think you are the pope, the head mullah of Haidhausen or Ben Kingsley.

It's a thread on a website, it will make absolutely no difference to you having to remove some clothing before you go to the toilet today, unless of course you like that sort of thing, and if you do then good for you. Just don't expect anybody to rush out and start emulating you or praising your incredible lifestyle choice.

Oh and seeing as we are in the land of the teutonic tongue I'ld like to propose "Pferde Pfucker", you know broaden the appeal etc etc.

That's why his tagline is no longer "Come to Daddy!"

There once was a site called TT
where posters can't let things be
They think they're the best
and don't understand jest
so post again for all to see.

This topic should have been killed and buried in a shallow grave somewhere in the Algarve long ago.

I'm not sure why it's still going, to be honest. The moderators must be bored this week, or something.

The parents are in Berlin today to hold a press conference to try to get the German vacationer hordes to help out in the search. I sincerely hope they get the kid back and then have social services take them away for being stupid self serving parents in the first place. They can have them back, but only if they go through parenthood courses and publically own up to being idiots. How is that for a joke?

Let it go Louis, let it go.

Thanks Keydeck - TT has been a Maddie free zone lately. A bit like Portugal.

Well in fairness it had been done to death. A bit like Maddie.

I *heart* The Express

Na, David Blunkett. Fucking eerie how he hits them.

Haha - he's actually saying "Doris! You really should shave your neck darling - it's like trying to bum a big hairy bloke".

you could tell it is a neck??

I've never tried bumming a bear before - I just made the inferrence for comedic purposes.

Is that a small bear or a rothweiller? It must be similar to bumming Robin Williams at a picnic.

Renault have brought out a new people carrier thats so comfortable & spacious you cant tell the kids are in the back...

they're callling it the Renault McCann...