Madeleine McCann jokes

I only have one question before the topic dies.

Why did this (partially) become a discussion about Editor Bob and what he does or does not find funny? Where in his post did he ever say these jokes were funny or were to his personal taste? He simply posted them. The rest of you inferred his opinion according to your own personal biases -- or ignorance.

I once posted a topic regarding a movie about bestiality. Does that mean I fuck horses or advocate horse fucking? No. I just put the information out there and let other people decide what they wanted to think about it. And putting information out there is different from stating an opinion.

This topic has become one of the best ever posted to TT. And beyond that, I've got nothing else to add.

Yeah, I think I snorted at a couple of them. It was a we-must-protect-the-children-I-can't-fucking-stand-paedophiles-and-would-like-neuter-the-sick-fuckers-I-just-want-world-peace type of laugh. You know the kind.

Actually Katrina, I always feel that people with kids get more abuse here from the childless than the other way round (however I am sure someone can sweep in and prove me wrong with post counts). But perhaps that is only me.

After reading your expanded and revised comments in italics Katrina, my opinion is you have a big chip on your shoulder about parents. And I am fully aware you don´t give a damn about my opinion, as I remember once you told me to stay home with my husband and children. when I was out.

And my feelings did change very much on becoming a mother, a lot more weeping, a lot more sensitivity and anguish- basically saying I am now a complete sodden marshmallow when it comes to anything relating to kids, World Vision ads make me cry, I am obsessed with all the abandoned children in orphanages (and would do an Angelina Jolie if I was married to someone who wanted to adopt) and again, that is just me. Parenthood does change some people in my opinion.

And what makes you think childless people don't feel the very same things? Even to greater degrees than you describe?
One thing that can change when people become parents is that they suddenly think their feelings are unique, or that because they didn't feel things so strongly before they had children that everyone else must be like the 'old-them'. All it really does is contrast your old self with the post-child self.. but it doesn't say much at all about anyone else I'm afraid.

But not all. That would be like saying that you hand in your entire personality and get a new one free with a baby at the maternity ward. Some things do change, but not everyone becomes a completely different person.

And I don't agree.
Not after the amount of times where I've stood up for the kids.

Sorry, the whole "oh if you had kids/if you were a parent/wait until you have..." santimonious bollocks fucks me off badly.
Your opinion is no more valid than mine on a sick joke or several.
Mother or not.
It is extremely patronising and quite possibly offensive to think otherwise.

I really can´t comment on other people´s feelings, only my own hormonal (?) changes I experienced.

Edit: and for the record I am positive I wouldn´t have found these jokes funny beforehand either. I am very lucky to hang out with people who think the same (parents or not).

Well he has posted a thread himself about some weird horse sex thing, according to Katrina a few posts back up if you care to read the thread's history.

And judging by some of the posts here I get a feeling who is child friendly herem whether theyx have kids of their own or not.

Parenthood changes you fills you with joy , exasperates you and drives you nuts. It makes you laugh and it can put your bloody back out as it did for me the past two days. But the best thing I ever did. Changed my view of the world in a positive way.

Anyway sod this thread. Voluntary flounce. Far too nice to sit at a PC when its nice in the garden. Bye.

Then you really don't know me.
But that's ok, I can live with that and so can you.

Enjoy the garden, Jeremy!

Horse sex! That is gold. And so obvious in retrospect... I can't believe I never noticed before.

That is an amazing trick. If only it actually worked.

Jeremy, no one denies that you or anyone else enjoys parenthood. But it doesn't automatically make you morally superior and doesn't give you magic abilities like knowing what others home situations are like or knowing what they think about privately in their spare time.

cuz he started the thread. I agree that he has not offered an opinion as to whether he finds the jokes funny or not, but this can also lead to speculation from the spectrum of TT users.

For some people the reason they do not have kids yet, may also simply be that they are still very young. I, for one, definitely want to have kids, just not now. Well, actually, if you asked my heart, I would maybe even want one now, but if you ask my mind, I know it's not the right time yet.

Toytown Germany.
Germany's English speculating crowd.

Did I ever say that?

This thread has travelled a long way hasn't it?

Started off with sick jokes and now has reached the level of whether parents feel morally superior.

I don't think anyone has ever inferred superiority on the behalf of parenthood, just that people with kids of their own are naturally very protective of children and are also probably more sensitive to remarks about the welfare of little ones. Note, i did say probably and not definitively.

Is that such a hard concept to grasp?

yes.

That's probably it then.

Apparently you know who is single too. Well done.