Alternatives to T-Com Speedport routers

Hi

I'm new to this forum and is wondering if any of you can give me advice on an alternative router or modem to this crapy Speedport thingy that you get from t-com.

What I'm getting is a t-home connection and I'm also getting 5 extra ips. Now I have my own little openbsd router that has been working perfetly and I can route all my trafic just the way I want.
But now that I will be getting this stupid Speedport router I am looking for an alternative to it. All I want is a modem that can handle a vdsl line, but searching on goolge has not realy turned up any results.
If I'm forced to use this Speedport crap is there a way that I can disable the routing/nat on it and just use it as a modem so that my openbsd box can do what its suppose to do, or is there a way that I can set it up to play nice with my 6 ips?
Also I need to know how stable this router is because it will have quit a big load to handle.

Thanks for any advice.
Cheers
hamba

There plenty of VDSL modems around, but you do need to hunt them down - many are packaged into routers but are more configurable than the Speedport. Check out Prestige, Allnet and AVM (especially). As VDSL is currently exclusive to Telekom/T-Online there is not much incentive to distribute on the open market when they already offer "complete solutions" in their current package.

I am not sure of the particular model of speedport...

But in my experience the speedport modem / routers in Australia could be set to bridging mode and therefore only passed the IP direct to the router or firewall of choice.

I would ask T-Com what model the speedport is and then download the manual to check for sure.

mmm

I just had another look at the website
http://entertain.t-home.de/c/77/68/57/7768576.html

Here it lists a modem Speedport 300 HS and a router Speedport W 700V

Does that mean that I will get both a modem and a router? If so then I don't have to use the router at all...

Yes if you get that package. Many new customers are getting the Speedport 900V which combines modem and router in one box...

Thanks

I'm panning on going to one of these t-shop thingies in about 5min
and tell them that I want this hardware.

You'll need to be sure you can get VDSL first- it's not quite as common as Telekom would like to make you think...

tell me about it :S

I went to the store yesterday where I aplied fot the line, the one girl working there told me that she can't even find my details... I don't have a phone number yet.

I then went to go and do some other things and on the way home I stoped off at another shop, this time the guy found my details after about 20min and then told me that acording to his system I can't get vdsl so I have to go back to the place I ordered it from and ask them what the hell is going on.. I'll be going back to this shop today and I hope that the guy I ordered the vdsl trough will be there

Are there any other dsl providers that can get me an upstream connection of about 5M? I'm not to fusy about the downstream but I need my upstream.
Any thing lower then that is not worth it for me.

As far as I know, there isn't. 5mbit/s is a pretty hardcore upstream. I have 16mbit/s down, but only 1mbit/s up. I'd like more as well, but I'm quite happy with my provider and how they don't complain when I transfer a lot of data and don't want to risk going to tcom to get VDSL.

You won't get 5Mb Upstream with domestic ADSL services. Typical down/up ratios are 16-20:1. 5Mbit upstream falls into the professional SDSL space

Or VDSL, where I believe you get 10mbit/s upstream.

No - VDSL currently provides 13-52 MBit/s Downstream and 1.5-2.3 MBit/s Upstream depending on cable length from the street fibre optic concentrator (300-1500metres)

When you go to there site
http://entertain.t-home.de/c/74/19/96/7419966.html
and you click on the i next to the vdsl thingy it pops up a page where is says


So that is for the 25M down you will get 5M up
and for the 50M down it will be 10M up

Or is this all bullshit and you ccan't trust what you read on there site?

This alternative T-home link describes the theoretical guaranteed up/downstream line rates. Theoretical upstream rates vary from 5-10MBit/s but many factors will influence if this is achievable including line length, line resistance, interference and most important of all contention (how many others are sharing the same bandwidth at the same time). In practice, if youare within 300m of your FO concentrator you may see spurts up to 10Mbit/S on a 50Mb VDSL line, but in practice you will average out, at best with around 2Mbit/s

The Fritz!Box 7270 model press releases previously indicated an integrated VDSL connection, but the 7270 product page (due in December), doesn't mention VDSL at all. Does anyone if it's officially dropped support, or maybe their product page just needs an update?

The 7270 is designed around the TI UR8 family chip. The first 7270s to ship include the TNETD7531 chip with is only ADSL2+ capable. When the product was first announced at CeBIT in March this year it was planned to use the TNETD8431 chip which is VDSL capable. Problems with this chip design, along with a constantly moving target of a VDSL protocol implementation from Deutsche Telekom (currently the only VDSL provider) seem to have persuaded them to quietly wait a little before implementing VDSL in their shipping systems. From a design point of view it's easy to replace the TNETD7531 chip with a TNETD8431 version in the future, but I imagine AVM will create a new model to accommodate this, probably in time for CeBIT 2008.

That's better info than I'd hoped for, thanks YL6. From what I've read the DSL modem in the Fritzbox 7050 can be turned off and simply connected to another (VDSL) modem, but still get the QOS benefits of the Fritzbox, plus the nifty hacks like Least Cost telephone routing. IPTV, LCR should be good to go. Anyone have thoughts or experiences on that?

All the Fritzboxes work fine as routers, etc., with modem disabled. I had to do it recently when my DSL went down. I simply fronted the existing Fritzbox to a GSM/GPRS-based router to get my internet back for the duration of the fault and had to do little more than disable the modem in software to regain all other functionality.