sarabyrd
May 22 2007, 6:23 am
A word to the wise and other car owners on TT: The area around the Bayerischer Hof in city center has been declared a no-parking, absolute towing zone Wednesday 23 May through Friday 25 May due to the meeting of the G8 Secretaries of State and Justice. So move your car, Mad Axe Murderer, before it gets towed again.
Jack
May 22 2007, 6:35 am
I'll never understand why that always has to be in the middle of the city. For example on the
Herreninsel in Chiemsee they would have the perfect surroundings, security would be less of an issue, no demonstrations etc. etc.
Allershausen
May 22 2007, 6:37 am
Because nobody would notice them and these people love to be noticed.
Jack
May 22 2007, 7:01 am
Notice them? I think the only people that give a damn about them are the demonstrators and they would like to see them in Chiemsee too, right down the bottom of it.
sarabyrd
May 22 2007, 7:52 am
Also, these guys and gals will have priority on the streets, so be prepared for spontaneous roadblocks and big limousines with tinted windows flashing by with police motorcycle escorts. They just would not have as much fun messing up ordinary lives on a lake, Jack.
Jack
May 22 2007, 7:53 am
Maybe, but they could go for a swim in the breaks.
pootle
May 22 2007, 8:37 am
Anyone know whats gonna happen with the #19 tram? Are we gonna be left with no service (as Isartor/SendlingorTor also blocked?)
sarabyrd
May 22 2007, 9:45 am
One short call to
MVG later: Generally, the 19 will be running but will be subject to sporadic and short-term interruptions. Listen to the announcements or use other transport. Servus.
nickyboy
May 22 2007, 11:23 am
Jack's newspaper of choice I suggest is the Daily Mail. Don't you care about increased surveillance? Loss of the freedom to protest or do you just care getting home in time to watch Sky on telly. Get a grip.
boomtown_rat
May 22 2007, 6:20 pm
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Don't you care about increased surveillance?
good point - we need a lot more and a lot less freedoms
pootle
May 22 2007, 7:44 pm
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Jack's newspaper of choice I suggest is the Daily Mail. Don't you care about increased surveillance? Loss of the freedom to protest or do you just care getting home in time to watch Sky on telly. Get a grip.
Nope I don't care about increased surveillance, but I do care about getting home after working a 12-14 hour day. Having a sky box has nothing to do with what time I get home - The important stuff is all set on Sky+ to record.
Oh and regarding Jacks choice of newspaper, who gives a fuck!
Jack
May 22 2007, 9:33 pm
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Jack's newspaper of choice I suggest is the Daily Mail.
Never read the Daily Mail in my life. Don't make assumptions mate you'll only make an ass of yourself.
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Don't you care about increased surveillance?
I don't even know to what extent I'm under surveillance as it stands (I doubt if you know either) and I don't particularly care. If you care, then I'd recommend going to London to demonstrate. Plenty of surveillance there.
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Loss of the freedom to protest or do you just care getting home in time to watch Sky on telly.
I've nothing to say against the freedom to protest but in this case the wrong people are being affected by it. I'd have nothing against demonstraters renting boats on Chiemsee. Oh, and I don't have Sky and never did.
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 22 2007, 12:23 pm)

Get a grip.
...
nickyboy
May 23 2007, 8:01 am
Luckily, I will be going back to London at the end of next week. Hopefully there will be a big turnout at the Bayerischer this afternoon to let the unelected body of the G8 security council know what some of the people of Germany and Europe think about their policies. Meanwhile others will be worrying about a ten minute delay.
Chicago
May 23 2007, 9:42 am
caught this tid-bit about "preparations" in Berlin for the G8:
QUOTE
Summit opponents are trying through the courts to lift a ban on a so-called "star march" planned at Heiligendamm on June 7, introduced after an interior ministry decision to prevent protesters coming within five miles of the resort.
The number of car burnings in Berlin has risen considerably over the past fortnight as tension rises, as have incidences of anti-G8
graffiti.
(emphasis added) source:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,,2085933,00.htmlmade me wonder: how common are car burnings in Berlin???
Jack
May 23 2007, 9:48 am
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 23 2007, 9:01 am)

Hopefully there will be a big turnout at the Bayerischer this afternoon to let the unelected body of the G8 security council know what some of the people of Germany and Europe think about their policies.
They won't get anywhere near the Bayerischer Hof.
sarabyrd
May 23 2007, 10:39 am
@Chicago: These are only the Interior and Justice Secretaries meeting up in Munich. The big show will be at Heiligendamm, cars are burning in Berlin because that's the capital. Also, they are well far away from the Bayerischer Hof.
planetmoni
May 23 2007, 10:44 am
QUOTE (nickyboy @ May 23 2007, 9:01 am)

what some of the people of Germany and Europe think about their policies.
who exactly are those 'people of Germany and Europe'? i wish they would stay at home, so the security measures would not be necessary and my tax money would be spent on other stuff.
expressing your political opinion doesn't mean one has to burn cars, attack police men, shops and generally being a nuisance for people who have to go work.
Janx Spirit
May 23 2007, 10:50 am
QUOTE (Jack @ May 22 2007, 7:35 am)

...
made me wonder: how common are car burnings in Berlin???
Pretty common, cars make a far superior bonfire than the book burnings ever did
Keydeck
May 23 2007, 10:50 am
These little fucks are professional protestors. Do you see them walking the streets of Munich on a day to day basis, no! They show up whenever there is an opportunity to gather together, admire each others hippy hairstyles and chant the slogan-de-jour. They don't know anything about normal everyday life nor do they care. All they want is a chance to protest against The Man. Then they vanish again to whatever dark recess from whence they came. If it were ordinary everyday citizens out there protesting against infringement of their civil liberties and whatnot then I might actually have some support for them.
Janx Spirit
May 23 2007, 10:54 am
In a nutshell Keydeck, like professional hooliganism in football, it's like a drug to them...
sarabyrd
May 23 2007, 11:01 am
There was a demonstration in Schliersee last Sunday against some war veterans from the
Freikorps Oberland glorifying their fallen. The Freikorps guys gave a short-term rain check this year but the protesters turned up anyway - clean-cut, washed and idealistic young people demonstrating against Nazi and revisionistic tendencies. Good on them.
berny
May 23 2007, 11:28 am
ah crap not this again. i actually have to go work in kardinal faulhaber strasse (behind the bayerische hof) today. ill expect to be strip searched and beaten as a matter of course. dyou remember that last year (maybe the year before). nightmare. 4000 bored cops sitting around theatinerstrasse,
marienplatz and
karlsplatz just BEGGING to be let off the leesh.
and i usually LOVE krautokops.
todays going to be lovely.
what do you want?
im working here
which company
im self employed
have you got ID?
well, sure - but i dont have a WORK ID.
You need a work ID.
well i have my passport and drivers licence -will that do?
hmmm maybe, are you carrying any weapons?
well in the wrong hands, EVERYthings a weapon.
uh huh...
sarabyrd
May 23 2007, 12:14 pm
Have a friend surrepticiously record the daily routine on his moby, you might get a laugh out of it.
I worked next door to the conference in 1988, never had to justify going to work or show ID. What bugged me most was the Löwenbräu lion (the brewerey sponsored the conference) belting out its Löööööööööööööööööööweeeeeeeeeeeennnbrrrrrrrrrrrrrräääää
ääääääääääääääääääääu! every three minutes from the official parking lot. My letter to the editor of the
Süddeutsche Zeitung whinging about it got printed and Löwenbräu sent me a presentation Keferloher (0.5litre) and 6 bottles of Dunkles.
Seems Helmut Kohl complained about the lion as well, they turned it off for him.
berny
May 23 2007, 12:18 pm
god they should really hold this gathering in George Orwell Square in Barcelona.
the irony would would overwhelming, and theyd be able to identify and disappear all the nasty protestors.
sarabyrd
May 23 2007, 12:21 pm
Love the pic!
nickyboy
May 23 2007, 4:45 pm
Just been up to the place where they had the ice rink at Xmas, about 250 demonstrators and lots of police.
berny
May 23 2007, 5:46 pm
yep, the anti NATO/G8 demonstation went round and passed by the bayerische hof. they turned right and last i saw they were shouting stuff at the hotel. large police presence, seemed to be pretty organised and peaceful.
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