mere
May 21 2007, 3:12 pm
The NYT had an interesting article about a guy touring around Germany being a "beer pilgrim":
NYT article:
On a German Beer Trail, One More for the RoadQUOTE
though Germany is home to some of the greatest beer culture on the planet, local flavor is increasingly elusive. Ever since the rise of lagers like Pilsener and the spread of industrial brewing in the late 19th century, dozens, if not hundreds, of charismatic local beers have disappeared.
“It happened very quickly,� said Ron Pattinson, whose European Beer Guide lists many obsolete and rare German beers, including broyhan from Hannover, mumme from Braunschweig and keut from Münster. “The older styles were overwhelmed, and what we've got left are just the odd remnants of beers. It's like a landscape that has been swamped, and you can just make out the odd tree and hilltop.�
Small Town Boy
May 21 2007, 3:29 pm
Thanks for posting. It's good to see recognition given to the fact that Germany's brewing scene has declined sharply over the past century or so. Bland-tasting pilsners have conquered Germany as much as they have the rest of the world. There's still lots of great beer brewed in Germany, but boy do you have to hunt it down.
thefirelane
May 21 2007, 3:39 pm
I must say, that was my biggest surprise upon moving to the land of beer. You go into a bar and can basically just say pils,
helles, or Weissbier

Where's the variety?
I've complained about the lack of alternatives beforeIt seems to me (for the
Pirsig fans out there) that German beer is an example of Static Quality conquering Dynamic Quality
pranaman
May 25 2007, 11:50 am
This one is interesting in that there is no mention of the Munich breweries, but I learned a bit about beers in other parts of the country...
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/05/20/trave...p;th&emc=thTopics merged by admin
Small Town Boy
May 25 2007, 12:37 pm
The reason they don't mention Munich is that the beer scene here isn't especially interesting. The styles of beer brewed in Munich are brewed pretty much everywhere else in Bavaria, frequently by older and/or better breweries.
TE610
May 25 2007, 1:11 pm
Reading the Article saw the advert for the Broadmoor Hotel on the right,Hmmm got me thinking so Id thought Id eplain to those not in the know where the original is:-
Broadmoor Hospital (Hotel for the criminally insane) was the country's first purpose-built asylum for the criminally insane, completed in 1863, and it currently houses 500 men and 120 women inmates. It was built under an act of Parliament to reform the poor conditions in institutions such as Bethlehem Hospital, aka Bedlam. Its imposing classical Victorian architecture was the work of Major General Joshua Jebb, a military engineer who is said to have based the building on two other hospitals - Wakefield and Turkey's Scutari Hospital.
One of four maximum security hospitals in the UK1, Broadmoor has housed some of the UK's most notorious criminals and lunatics, including:
Artist Richard Dadd, best known for his painting The Fairy Feller's Master Stroke, which was immortalised in a song by Queen, and which inspired Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel The Wee Free Men.
'Stockwell Strangler', Kenneth Erskine, who in 1986 murdered 11 elderly people in their homes in Stockwell, South London.
Cannibalistic murderer Robert Mawdsley, the English Hannibal Lecter.
'The Surgeon of Crowthorne' and Oxford English Dictionary contributor, William Chester Minor.
London nail bomber David Copeland, who in 1999 targeted ethnic minorities with devices in Brixton and the East End, and another which targeted the gay community in the Admiral Duncan pub in Soho.
'Yorkshire Ripper' Peter Sutcliffe, the lorry driver who murdered 13 women between 1975 and 1980.
Notorious London gangsters Ronnie and Reggie Kray.
Ian Ball, who attempted to kidnap Princess Anne in 1974.
Daniel McNaughton, who murdered prime minister Sir Robert Peel's private secretary Edward Drummond in 1843, a case which led to the McNaughton rules on criminal insanity.
Thallium poisoner, Graham Frederick Young.
Moors murderer Ian Brady, who between 1963 and 1965 with his girlfriend Myra Hindley tortured and murdered five children from Manchester, burying four of them on Saddleworth Moor.
Small Town Boy
May 25 2007, 1:35 pm
Wow, that was pretty random, given that everyone sees different adverts. I'm getting one for Citibank.
Marcelle
May 25 2007, 1:41 pm
Sorry to be a bit picky, but there's no hard evidence that Myra Hindley tortured and murdered the victims, although she was responsible for the procurement of the victims. After serving her life sentence, she was still not let out of jail. Likewise, there's no evidence that Rosemary West knew what her husband was up to, but she also has a life sentence. When many more heinous crimes get shorter sentences when committed by male killers (because ideologically it's more acceptable) it's just annoying. Any of us could end up with partners who do terrible things and find we are tarred with the same brush.
Marcelle
dolfan
May 25 2007, 1:51 pm
Please mods, split this thread now. For the love of god don't let a thread discussing the greatness of german beers turn into a sobby feminist thread.