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Computer graphics jobs in Germany

What are my chances of finding work?

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svnstrk
Hei guys, forum newbie here...pls be gentle.. tongue.gif

i've just graduated from comp. science and havin interest in graphic programming stuff. i've done a little researh and decided to go to German and have my career in German. however, after doin a little research, i found out a lot of "due to high unemployment in German, foreign job seeker is not welcome" kind of sentence (pls correct me if i'm wrong) is it right? what about IT jobs? Computer Graphic such as game industry and movie? How huge is my chance as a non-german speaking job seeker?

In my home country, a postgraduate title is not considered well. What about in German? Does it really matter to have a postgraduate degree or not?

I know there are a lot of thread discussing this matter, but I really need a specific answer. How much should i expect for the it salary(considering if i got my master degree)?

thx 4 any reply
sorry 4 bad english
pls correct me if i did sumthin wrong
Showem
Hi Svnstrk,

Why would you decide to come to Germany (the country has a Y at the end, nationality and language don't)? Do you have any connection to Germany, is the specific part of the IT industry you want to work in big in Germany? Or did you just throw a dart at a map? If you can explain this, people will probably be able to understand what you are looking for and help you more.

To be perfectly brutally honest, if you don't speak German and your English isn't very good, I don't see you having much luck finding a job. But I could be wrong, see what the others write.
bluedave
I think Showem summed it up pretty well in her last sentence.
Punchbear
Try Das Auge, occasionally they list positions in the Gaming Industry. There are some smaller developers out there. Not many, but they are there.
Mr.Mosh
I studied basically the same thing, CS with the main emphasis on 3D rendering and jobs in the uk and germany were extremely hard to find when I graduated.
I think graphics jobs in germany are still few and far between, but the gaming industry has had a resurge in the UK and there are quite a few jobs going all over the UK in game dev houses.
Job sites like monster list a few graphics jobs if you search for opengl or directx, but otherwise they are hard to find. Obviously just searching for graphics will find you a ton of DTP etc. stuff too.
zemonkey
Don't be angry with the g and y.

It is great that you are thinking of travelling but TRY to get some experience under your belt and make sure you master at least one foreign language if you want to land a job, or get the job first and use it to travel. Of course, you can just "go for it", but it is much harder and you risk doing jobs for food, far from your training and interests. If that is ok, book the flight.

In graphics you might also think of France & USA - lot's going there.
Illic
A B.A. in Computer science would be uncommon in germany, a degree comparable to M.A. is the norm.A PhD is usually for a career at universities only.
I've heard recently that some experts expect the german IT industry to shrink considerably, because more and more companies tend to outsorce IT jobs, but I don't know how accurate that prognosis is.
eurovol
QUOTE (bluedave @ May 18 2007, 1:13 pm) *
I think Showem summed it up pretty well in her last sentence.

So do I. tongue.gif

Post-Grad degrees are a dime a dozen in Germany. Almost every salesperson has a PhD. As for job opportunities, it all depends on how good you are and your determination. Do what you want and don't let anybody stop you from accomplishing it. If you have that attitude, then you will find a way. If you want it easy, then go back to Showem's previous sentence before the last sentence.
HEM
QUOTE (eurovol @ May 18 2007, 5:40 pm) *
Almost every salesperson has a PhD.

I'm not so sure thats true (at least in my experience of one large German software house / Unternehmensberater
& now the German branch of a international IT manufacturer...)
eurovol
My wall at work is lined with business cards of Dr. Salesperson. I be in the biological sciences. I figure IT is pretty much the same, but I could be wrong as I don't work in that branch of sciences.
svnstrk
ups, sory...Germany... smile.gif
Thx 4 all the reply...
really helpful... smile.gif

The reason why i picked Germany is because somehow post-grad is not a big plus in my country. You may ended up as a programmer even if you have a PhD. The industry here does not really concern about the post-grad. And after a little bit googling, I found out that a university at Germany offer a Visual Computing Master Degree. After I took a look at the website, somehow they can sure me that Graphic Industry is a booming prospect in Germany. Actually they said that 70% of Europe Graphic Industry is in Germany.

check this out:
http://www.master-visual-computing.de/faq.shtml

Graphic industry is an example. You can rarely find an industry related directly to this subject. Actually, after a huge search, I found none. Graphic is quite a hobby for me and working in a Game Industry is my dream since I bought my first PC (around 92 maybe). I did take a look about UK too but the living cost is quite a hell for me. Twice as I will spent if I live in Germany(rite?).

So how is it? any comment? smile.gif

Thx 4 any reply
sorry 4 bad english
Hutcho
If you're worried about your English, the first way you could improve your English is to use 'for' instead of 4, and 'Thanks' instead of 'Thx'..
whitemice
Don’t take everything you read on a University course sales literature at face value. Remember that it’s written to sell the course and not necessarily to provide the best careers advice for prospective students. This applies especially to Universities seeking students from overseas who will have to pay full fees.

My recommendation would be to research the company’s directly. Find out what products they are offering, what sort of work they do, technologies they use and try and decide if this soft of thing is of interest to you.

Once you find a specific job you like you can ask people what paths they took to get the jobs they currently have. If you ask nicely, most people will be happy to tell you how they got a specific job, what qualifications you need and whether they think a particular course will help you in their line of work.

Generally it will be your experience that gets you the job, which makes starting out such a hard thing to do. Consider what job opportunities you can find in your native language (English?) before attempting the switch.

And lastly, my own experiences of Germany have been one in which specialised technology companies struggle to find suitability qualified candidates and thereby tend to invest a lot of time and money in the education of their employees.
svnstrk
ups, sorry...I'll fix that...

Yeah, I agree. I've done a little research to about Graphic Industry in German, especially on entertainment/game, and I think I found much less than I expected. Well, I got one or two that really caught my intention, but surely less chance to get there considering I'm a foreigner.

Well, now I'm totally confuse...tongue.gif

anyway, thanks for the advice, folks...
let's hope I'll pick the best option..smile.gif

If you find any information/reference for this stuff, please inform me. I really need more consideration right now. I'll stay a while in this forum just in case I get another consideration smile.gif

again, thanks for everything guys
sorry for my very bad English
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