I need some female company

Grinner mate two things: A flower and charm. They get you some much further than an ad. Good luck mate!

What happened to the first thread??? Wasn't offensive a bit to me...what caused the premature closure?

Maybe someone recognised themselves in one of the posts and didn't like what they saw. If someone decides to close down a thread then it might be an idea and polite if they identified themselves and gave a reason for closing it down. A bit cowardly otherwise.

I thought only moderators could close threads down. Or the originator for an advert. So I guess the mods felt the thread had got a bit ridiculous/vulgar.

Grinner, the line on looking for a fuck buddy is a big mistake. In my experience no woman wants to be a fuck buddy. They may become one, but did not set out that way. They want respect, warmth, entertainment, and sex if the respect, warmth, and entertainment makes them excited enough to want it. I'm afraid you've been watching too much sex in the city.

Well Grinner, I think I have found the lady for you:

She shuts the fuck up
You can fuck her 24/7
She doesn't want romance, nore cares about it.
She doesn't care if you are carrying a few pounds to many.

I don't think, after having read your thread, your preferences and your prerequisites, that you will be able to find a different woman. If you'd be willing to marry, I'd suggest getting yourself a mail-order bride. She'd be totally dependend on you, fuck as often as you want and not be in the position to bargain (i.e. does anything you demand of her AND cooks and cleans for free).

As a member of the female species who has already got to meet you, I am amazed at your criteria for finding women. A pity, you seem to be nice bloke. Contrary to popular belief expressed by people the likes of Ulysses, being a nice bloke can get you somewhere if you are looking to date grown-up women. There are tons of disillusioned women out there who would love to find men who are nice, single and not gay and who have long given up the hope of finding someone. Looks-wise you don't have to worry too much, the character is far more important to women than looks. The character you are portraying in this ad is unfortunately not going to help you in finding any woman, but for the one who's pic I posted. She's still available though. Good luck.

As I mentioned in Part 1, most women want more depth to their relationship than a drinking buddy or a fuck buddy. Secondly, I would suggest that you try working on yourself first ( I saw that pic of you on the roof) as you said you are a "wreck" so that you can offer any prospective women the best possible you. No woman wants a wreck, unless she's working for a demolition company and wrecks go directly to the junk yard.

You're 42 and only had a few girlfriends? Maybe this explains why it appears that you have a very limited understanding of what women and need from a relationship with a man.

My best suggestion to you is to buy a Porn magazine or an inflatable woman and sleep and drink with it. As most women would want you to offer them more then just excess adipose tissue, beer, pizza, and your "weiner".

Perhaps, "the big gap in your life that you need to fill", is really the emptyness of your character and who you are as a person. Again, I would recommend working on that first.

Good luck!

Grinner requested that the replies to his first posting be removed. To do so, however, would be unfair to the people who took the time to write those replies. Replies can't be removed simply because the topic starter doesn't like them. The replies didn't break any forum usage guidelines. Rather, they were all well-intentioned helpful advice. So instead the topic was closed. Had it been known that Grinner was going to simply start a new and almost identical topic then the first one wouldn't have been closed at all. Incidently, normally "Fuck buddy sought" type adverts do not belong on this website. There are plenty of other websites for that kind of thing. We're making a one off exception in this case though because Grinner is such an established member of the forum.

hey lavendarrain. are u trying to help him or cursing him? looks like u feel insulted so u are going for a revenge.

Chill.. According to her profile she's only 8 years old What would she know of the world

Note: It helps to be truthfull with the details in your profile, so people don't get the wrong ideas/impressions.

I actually think this whole thread is probably another Grinner wind up, hence trying to give him advice is probably just a waste of time.

Makes sense

Ouch! Uhm... Ouch.

I saw the photo also, I thought he looked friendly and had a nice smile. (mostly wondered why the two LNBs, can you get signal from two sats on one dish, if one is Astra 2, what's the other? Anyway...)

The "wreck" statement isn't one you should jump to agree with... Let it go, if he already thinks it, what point was there to pound on it? Just rude. And I've seen much worse looking guys with fairly attractive women (and vice versa), so I'd not hang it everything on that.

I'd say work on all of it together, as you can, as you have time, as it makes you feel better about yourself... and screw what other people want to change your image to...

I think Lavenderrain probably just got offended/disgusted by Grinner's attitude towards women or rather, how it appears to be after having read these threads. If some of the men on this forum cannot understand why women would find such statements offensive, well, it says quite a bit about these men then doesn't it. I agree though that Lavenderrain's assessment of Grinner's complete character was also not befitting. He can be a very nice chap.

Why is this thread is the 'language exchange' section? Is Edbob sending Grinner a hint?

Tandem, yeah. Looking for a fuck buddy.

Grinner, below I have attached your PM that you sent me last night at 1215 that I just read. As your PM are not welcomed in my inbox, you are now blocked. As a compassionate human being, I do have some humanity and have sympathy for your pathetic plight. What I'm thinking it's your approach to women, including your overwhelming lack of respect for women and also self-respect that's evident in this thread and Part 1.

Regarding you" having suffered this problem for years and are trying to find a way out", the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Again, I would strongly encourage you to work on yourself first. Seeking a women in this way, I don't think will really solve your underlying problem with women or yourself. Regarding my comments being unfounded, anytime you put yourself out here like you have with this thread, you should be willing to take the feedback both positive and negative. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh, I just have very little respect for men like yourself who denigrate women. I do wish you all the best and hope that you can find some peace, love, and happiness in your lifetime.

Just wondered. That PM was obviously intended for u only. what do u gain by sharing with all people here?

@Lavenderrain

Although I can understand why you are offended by Grinner's posts, I find you posting a personal pm of his on an open forum just not cricket.
Edit:
In general to the men on this forum: Making misogynistic comments about women do not make you look cool or funny. It just saddens many women that we still have these attitudes in our day and age. Please try to understand that. Many thanks from another 30+ elderly flower.

That's very funny . Actually, I did not want to put my age, as I think my age is irrevelant to my "rhetoric". Although, I think some peeps will definitely not agree. However, the program would not let me change anything in my profile without adding an age. So hence I just added an age. I have to email Editor Bob and ask how I can add/change things to my profile without having my age. So that's the only thing that not true in it.

Uhm, being a woman doesn't make you an expert at what most of them want. At best, you might have an idea what most of them would admit to... And, I'm guessing, what they would admit to you (given your judgmental tone) isn't anywhere near what they are really thinking.

Do you know what the "P" in PM stands for? My gosh... If most women were like you, I'd consider alternative lifestyles...

BTW: Grinner, looked like a polite PM to me, I have no idea what's up here rear. I'm guessing that "F Buddy" is just a red button set of words that will cause instant reactions like this in a few people, so it's probably best to avoid that... if it happens for you, it happens. If you just have dinners and conversation with a woman, so be it. Kinda pointless to say "hey it could go either way" when it in fact could, you're stating the obvious, but the obvious seems so offensive to some people.

What the hell is wrong with a forum when people can't even keep PMs PRIVATE? Do you get some kind of sick satisfaction humiliating or even just attempting to do so LR? You're not being the patron saint of help like you think!

Ok, posting the PM was bad etiquette. Sorry Grinner and who ever else was offended by me posting it.

Cool, get that Grinner? She (as a woman) said age is irrelevant... ...so it's ok to tell everyone your only 25 in your description to get a date! And you play a lot of football too... that's something 25 year olds do, right?

I don´t think being 42 and overweight is a problem, I am both, my wife has never complained. Okay, so she´s not exactly Kate Moss herself...

Wise words BadlandZ. Somehow "I wanted to tell so" just doesn't quite say it.

Absolutely, I got no sick satisfaction out of posting it. I think what motivated me was angry that I would get a PM from him regarding this crap.

I was quite shocked to find a PM in my box from him and to read it was even more shocking. Grinner knows where I stand on this from what I wrote yesterday in Part 1 and he did not have to PM me. Again this shows his lack of understanding of women.

Man, in Germany, if you are looking for a lady, just use the dating sites man, everyone does it. People that do not even really know what the internet is use dating sites here man. Fairly recently, I actually helped out a lady of 60 to register at a site - Germans are well into them.

K, Grinner, take note. According to the in-house expert on Women, women do not like to take sensitive matters in private with digression. Where a man might have some manners, and try to handle an embarrassing or humiliating matter in private for the sake of for both parties, it appears women like you to announce personal issues loudly in public.

Ack!

Thank you MadAxeMurder for your input. I find your comment to be right on point.

a) Grinner you're not a bad looking bloke. A bit overweight, but so what? Most people are these days.

b) It seems that you have a bad attitude though. Whether it's self-esteem issues or how you wish to interact with the opposite sex, most of femmes who have had ANY experience with men can spot that a mile away - especially if we're "elder flowers" as you care to put it.

c) Personally, when you say elder flowers, I think of someone in their 70's age wise. I hope you are/were referring to someone my grandmother's age. Bit of advice - don't use that term unless you are speaking with someone in their 70's. Better yet.. don't use it at all.

That's so ridiculous, that it's hysterical. You make laugh

I just think whatever Grinner had or has to say to me could be said on the thread, as everything I said to him in Part 1 was on thread.
He was not trying to handle the matter in private for the sake of both parties. I think after drinking the Baileys he said he would drink for St. Patty's day, he had another unfortunate lapse in judgement and decided he would send that annoying and very unwelcomed PM to me.

What pisses me off about this forum (oh-oh, I already used the wrong words), is that it's completely unspeakable for instance to complain about rascism in Germany or to say anything negative about Germany but it's completely ok to make really off "jokes" or comments about women. That never gets criticised. If a man on this forum makes the *funny* comment that women belong in the kitchen, people just ignore it or many other equally imbecilic men would jump on the bandwagon and ad their own incredibly *witty* comments, BUT say ONCE that you think there's a lot of rascism in Germany and you have a large part of the forum telling you what an idiot you are.

Grinner's comments this time weren't even that bad. It's a bad combination of his comments, Ulysses' comment and general comments which have been madeon this forum recently regarding women.

I agree. A bit of respect would be nice.

This is the first and only forum I have ever joined and I am surprised by the attitudes of many men here. I thought this is an internationally thinking community of educated people who have seen a bit of the world. There seems to be an underlying conservatism here which belongs in the fifties if anywhere. The German people I have got to know show a lot more respect towards women than many of the representatives of the English speaking community do.

How did this thread turn from a daft windup post into a general men bashing topic?

It's called thread-hijacking!

And why is this called men bashing immediately? Try and acknowledge that some women do feel disturbed by the attitudes expressed on this forum. Maybe not all women, but some do.

Men Bashing? Since when is asking for a bit of respect 'men bashing'?
_{[bashing mode] you insecure, sniveling excuse for a y chromosome[/bashing]}

Yes, I find it very interesting as well, and I've asked Editor Bob why are comments like Grinner's allowed that in my opinion are insensitive and denigrate women? But ok, at the end of the day, I have to ask myself how can I be a little more compassionate, enlightened, and sensitive, to other people thoughts and feelings that I don't agree with, as this is an open forum. Also it's up to us as individuals to try to treat each other with more dignity, integrity and respect. I have to make a better effort at doing this. As some of the comments I said to Grinner were disrespectful just out of my disgust with what he said about women.

But it all depends on a persons sensibilities in terms of what they may find offensive or not and then you have the others folks that for a lack of a better phase are shit stirrers. These are the folks who will read the comment and take what you said totally out of context to try to use it against you to spur the negativity on.

Excuse me, could you please tell me what I said that irked you so much? I can't for the life of me see where I showed any disrespect towards women. I didn't say you should treat them like shit. I said keep yourself interesting by not letting them walk over you. Naturally, a decent woman wouldn't try that in the first place. If women liked the proverbial nice guy then why does the class nerd get nowhere? You want someone between a totally boring nice guy and the complete arsehole of a jock.

But I'll let you feminists bitch and moan for the sake of bitching and moaning because you just wouldn't be one if you didn't. You never hear any feminist crap coming from women who've actually succeeded like Merkel, Thatcher, etc. because they don't need excuses for their shortcomings.

As far as Grinner is concerned, he was just being honest. He wants to fuck. So what? Would you prefer it if he wined and dined you, shagged you and never phoned? So you do like the lying arseholes?

We may like to play around with the arsehole or the jock when we're young and just looking for some fun but in the end the class nerd does get the girl.

Don't you worry, I will still hold the baton and say loads of negative stuff about Germany. Hurrah!


Women blatantly do not belong in the kitchen. Women should sit down, relax a little, and wait for food to be served to them. Women are much nicer to cook for that blokes, and have the bonus of having breasts that you can quickly perve at whilst you are serving them a platter of delicious treats.
Woman can do the fucking ironing though, no way I'm going near that.

Then why doesn't he go get a prostitute, as it's legal here in Germany, instead of putting this crap out on the forum.

Here here. I would do the ironing for a good cook. Seems a fair exchange.
[I'm very hungry right now, and have nothing to eat but these well-pressed trousers ]

I'll buy you a dinner (u choose the place) for 1 hour of ironing, once a week ,deal?

@sharpe - You can't cook yourself...? slightly tempted... No, only home-cooked makes it a fair exchange.

You wrote that women like men who are pricks. That doesn't sound negative towards women to you? We are obviously genetically challenged? Lacking good judgement? Immediately calling women feminist bitches who criticise the atttitudes of some men is also typical of somebody with said attitudes so I rest my case. By now you should also know that I am completely immune against insults, but carry on if you have nothing better to do on a Sunday afternoon.

I can, but i dont cook all the time, only in occasions. most of the time does not worth the effort.

another DR classic post!

He can cook for me anytime, but I already put the ironing board away for today.

I have no issues with Grinner saying he was looking for a FuckBuddy, at least he is being honest and upfront about it, some say in bad taste, but its much better that some of the ignorant assholes that frequent TT events looking for the same, but not being honest with you about it, and while they are chatting you up, they are also checking the 'fresh meat' that just walked in the door.