Calculate my net salary

Hello,

I am going next month to Hamburg for a job interview. I will have to discuss my salary (and fight for it).
If I want a net salary of say 25000 euros/year (in my pocket). What total amount should i discuss?
For example in the UK, i would have to add council tax, taxes, ...

This is also my first ever job, i am currently a student.

Regards,

Nicolas

For a first job, you want €25K net? I don't know what you do or the job you are going for but I reckon you'll be doing well to get it.

You'll need to be asking for EUR 45K+ a year to take home 25K.
Assuming you are single and unmarried.

As the poster above said, that's a LOT for a first job!

a net salary of 25 K you would be looking close to 50K gross. For a starting salary that is a bit high (IMHO). Have you got extra skills to warrant that?

OK, OK, let's not jump all over him. It is possible that your first job could be 50K or more. Hiring salary in my company (an IT company) is 50K+ - of course, we are in Munich, not Hamburg.

Christ that's high!

MUCH higher than a LOT of people get in IT in Munich at starting level.

Qualifications, several years experience, the right skills, the right place at the right time etc etc to get that kind of salray tbh.

It's not high given the right education and intended profession. It may be atypical, however.

It is possible, but it will depend a lot on the industry as well. IT pays larger salaries than say teaching. But everybody has the right to aspire for something. He was not asking on a lecture on how much he should earn, he wants to know an approximate way on how to set up a netto income and how to know how much is that as brutto.
You should consider a 45% to 50% loss of your brutto salary in order to get an approximate figure for your take-home wage. As MT said considering you are in tax class 1.

Have a snoop around this site here.

Just had a snoop around and, hmmm, well, I guess I now know why my boss didn't want to give me a raise.

Had a look also and my salary is not bad at all for my first (real) job in Germany.

Thanks for all your answers .
50 % seems to be the consensus.

About my salary: I am currently a PhD student, and i get 18500 euros/year net. Adding that i am a student and therefore get good price at the gym, going out, ... let say 10 more%.
25000 is probably a bit high, I just needed a ballpark figure.

Thanks again for your quick answers.

Nicolas

Plenty of full time workers with families to care for would give their right hand for 18.5K net.

If you go job hunting with a PhD under your arm it is not really very high. I studied here a MSc and was hired not long ago as a "recent graduate" and didn't have trouble with salaries. But again, it all depends on what industry you are looking for a job.
I would recommend you to search here on Toytown for the many salary threads and taking a look at some of the links provided there on salary levels for different professions. You could also take a look at the Süddeutsche Zeitung information on salaries. That will give you an idea of how high can you go when asking for your salary. Don't go cheap, but also don't go too high.

If you have a ph.d. in a "marketable" field and earned it while holding a full-time job in academia, 50,000 € yearly gross doesn't sound eccessive to me. Always depends on the exact field you're in, though...

Right, I thought currently a student and going for first job meant someone of 21 etc.

On the "real" open market, a PhD may not improve your salary chances, as you are still a recent graduate without experience, unless you do have relevant work experience gained while studying.

On the other hand, if you are, say, an engineer covered by IG Metall, you are automatically in a higher bracket once you have the PhD, even if it's not specifically relevant to the job you are doing (when I was covered by IG Metall, they had to pay me as a graduate doing aproject management/engineering job, although my degree was in fact an M.A...they sure hated doing it, but they couldn't get out of it).

If you are, you can also check the current tarifs for the IG Metall for Hamburg (they vary from region to region)...there is a fixed amount for qualification, experience etc (although it's also in bracketed groups), and then a supplement for the area - gives you a pretty good idea of what to go for (they can't pay below, and they can't pay above the brackets)...and 50.000€ would pretty certainly be ok.

Carefull, hi tech company jobs would in theory be covered by IG metall tariffs but a LOT of firms are not in the tariff schemes, there's no obligation to be in them.
Non union rates of pay can be HIGHER than union!

Guess I wasn't clear.

Non union rates can indeed be higher than union tarifs, but they do not set down rules for salary jumps for specific qualifications...which is where tarifs can help (as in my a.m. admittedly rather absurd case; through IG Metall I was entitled to a far higher salary than an arts grad. tends to command...and the same may well be true for the pure qualification of PhD, if it is not associated with the appropriate work experience to make it useful to non union companies).

You'll need to be getting between 45 and 50k if you want to take home that amount. Depends on what your qualified in. I've 8 years IT experience specialised in the J2EE side of things and I only take home around that and I'm based in Hamburg.