Did man really go to the moon?

Cool. Sharpe's witting something! Is he going to wonder why a rocket can propel itself in outer-space whilst having nothing to push against?

Sharpey -> Read -> Newton's laws of motion.

@cb6dba

Congratulations, you are basically at the same level of understanding of reality as your average stoned college freshmen who just saw "The Matrix" for the first time.

Well we could go round in circles BD and debate whether it was Meucci or Alexander Graham Bell but I think the point is that it was not an American.

Inertia is a property of an object that resists its being accelerated(please read this as motion that involves a change in speed or direction).. The atoms that make up the flag are all made of protons, neutrons and electrons, which made up of quarks. So when the flag is being swung , actually all the constituent quarks and electrons are swung back and forth. Higgs field(a field that acquires a non zero value in cold, empty space which gives rise to masses of fundamental particles) interacts with quarks and electrons, it resists their acceleration. And this resistance, this drag on particulate constitituents, contributes to mass of the flag. Since Higgs ocean fills all space there is no way to remove particles from its influence.

All this is well and good, but when did the Babylonian Brotherhood finally get involved?

I think I've sussed out why the moon landings were faked. It's not that the Americans never went to the Moon. No ... they did indeed go ... but when they got there, they found that the Moon doesn't exist. It's just an optical illusion. Nothing there but empty space. Well, it would have been a bit awkward to have to go back home and tell the world there is no Moon. All that money spent on the Apollo programme for nothing. All those astronomy textbooks that would have to be rewritten. All those millennia of human culture, traditions, legends based around the Moon. So a few people in the know faked the landings, and now the Americans are rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of the Russians, Chinese, and any other rivals eating up their space budgets trying to get to the non-existent Moon while they, the Americans, concentrate on the real goal: mining the vast Mars Bar deposits on Mars.

But let's not forget that Marc Andreesen would have been nothing if it wasn't for Tim Berners-Lee, who invented the Web ... and who was British.

For this no one should be looking at the moon at that specific time , as moon only exists because we look at it.

The Brits invented the Ami-bashing thread, which keeps this site running.

What? The Matrix was not real ?

Mr. Smarty Pots, for you to state you have an "interest" in recycled condoms on your profile you must have an IQ far lower than mine .

Was the Dog?

@firelane,

What gave it away?

The part about all the disabled kids who's mothers took the drug that locked them in a disabled body for life or the fact that most people in world have realy now clue abut science?

Considering how crap most Governments are at covering up the most mundane of scandals, Tony Blairs flat buying fun, Vietnam massacres, Frenchmen bowing up Greenpeace boats etc. the chances of the American government keeping the lid on fake moon landings are pretty remote.

Very dissappointed in that comment.

When you goin' then?

When I can afford it.

May take a while

I've got a really big elastic band.

Now why you happen to own a big elastic band?

I'm an inventor. I use it for experimentations.

Has anybody seen my cat?

Your cats name wouldn't happen to be Apult would it...

Nope. Alfie.

Do you think we could get a message to DrivinWest to look out for a 7kg grey tabby Maine Coon on a low orbital path?

Sin ... I've been seeing big fluffy grey things drifting rapidly past the window all afternoon ... I thought they were clouds. They seem to be coming from Grosshadernshire, heading east. You don't mean...

Precisely! My elastic band theory functions perfectly. Let's see how your God deals with this, eh?

No problem ... my God worships cats.

How did orbiting moggies get into this thread anyway? Are we sending them to the Moon to catch the mice that are eating up the Wensleydale?


Ah, but...

Clangers. My cat has exotic tastes.

The moon isn't really made of cheese. Dear, dear, dear. Have you never read the CIA reports about Neil Armstrong's post-lunar stroll visit to the dentist? He had to discover the hard way.

One small nibble for a man ... but one helluva big chunk to swallow for mankind.

And I bet the dentist's fees were astronomical.

For the doubters...

If you question whether the Americans actually went to the Moon, why would you believe the Chinese or Russians if they say they went to the Moon?

Do you find their government and scientific community "more believable"? and if so...why?

Do you doubt the occurrence or existence of everything you can't understand?

Yes. Because they haven't had so much expose as a bunch of boring *expletive deleteds* living by the Word of Wikibollox. All people trust at first. We just don't know the Russians or Chinese that well. Call it a 'benefit of the doubt' approach. I totally believed Neil Armstrong walked on the moon until daft Americans started going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it. I decided advocating that the Americans never went to the moon because it was much, much, much, much, much, much more fun to do so. It really winds them up, and this is a good thing. If you don't believe me then check Wiki yourself.


American Intelligence. No real need to say anything more, is there?

Clangers were first on the moon... FACT! Anybody who says anything different is a steak and kidney pie.

Iggy Pop nothing more need to be said.

Oh heres a totally NEW story:

Theres a show on tonight on Pro7 about the faked moon landing.

I dont get it why the white house dosent admit the scam cause the chinese are gonna send up a huge mother rocket crammed full of little yellows that are gonna hold hands and march over the moon in a line and wont find a stares and stripes anyway

or

there will be a zekret mond bazis on ze azour zide ov ze mond housing Amelie Erhart,Adolf(Austrian guy, short, mustach...? you know) and The King all playing poker with a Martian with window view of saddams parked WMD in the yard.

now this is a rather silly reply if you think about it. how can i have a nerve for claiming thousands of people took us to the moon cant think out of the box? when i never made the claim. u are making or accepting assumptions which is silly. also there is no hard science to support the lunar landings. it is very easy to disprove simple conspiracies. it is much harder to prove the science for the lunar landings. if inertia in a vacuum is the cause of the flags movement show how this is possible mathematically?


learn also to read. what did i say in the first line of my post? what is more silly, saying what you have invented i think and describing this as silly? or agreeing with urself and accusing someone else of being silly for not their thoughts but actually your thoughts? It's not courageous to be a conspiracy nut, its just silly. Now think about what you said here... and then read your arguments with yourself which basically is your whole post. lol

Sharpe Higgs boson is hypothetical it is not proved yet. Its predicted to exist from the Standard Model of particle physics. This has never been observed experimentally. Now heres an experiment. Take two Astronauts to the moon get them to shimmy a flag about but also figure how to detect it before sending them to the moon lol

It is made of cheese! I just found the truth on NASA's web site. Check it out!

The flags were flapping because of the lunar wind. Its a fact! And there is a very good reason for there being a wind on the moon. There are no trees!
And here is more evidence.

MOON APOLLO HOAX: NASA . Armstrong Refuses $5000 Cash



Apollo Moon Hoax? Dr. David Groves Analysis



MOON HOAX - NASA . 'Buzz' Aldrin Threatens Lawsuit

hoax. i sure we can make it there now with current technology, but then, no way.

Is that your expert opinion? If so, please list your credentials.

They did go there but only because they were motivated by the competition with the Soviet Union - maybe when the Chinese start adventuring out there the program will get moving again.

you talking to me! common the evidence is everywhere. countless books, websites, tv programs, talk shows. do your research before you challenge mine. the list is so long, with so may of the points made in this thread. Google is your friend.

Those who do not believe in conspiracy theroy are those who have never looked into them.
- Unknown Author

Yeh, good one.. I don't know if you're aware, but there is evidence they did go to the moon too, and it's from reliable sources, not nutjobs.

Anyway, thanks for talking out of your ass a second time.

God, I already miss DrivinWest...

Hahaha, says you. Go on, tell us what modern engineering technologies that exist then that did not exist then, especially any that changes the situation in any real and significant way?

funny i think of people who REFUSE to look at the other side of something as nutjobs too! Instead of slamming me, how about taking a few hours and asking the question "if" it never happened and do some research. I believe then you will question it more. I too thought it was ludicrous until i learned more.

Do you also believe 9/11 was done by hijackers with box knives let from a man in a cave? I don't but im also an educated nutjob.

Honestly speculating upon hearsay and my vast understanding of modern computing.

Speaking of educated, I'm a software and electrical design engineer with an honours degree in mechanical engineering. Everything I have read about the space program is entirely consistent with what I know of the state of technology at the time, and trying to send everyone who challenges you off on a aimless search through the shifting sands of internet consipiracy sites doesn't make the point you are presumably trying to make any stronger. Specifics please, not vague waffle if you want to be taken seriously.

So, asking again: what is different about today's technology that makes it any more feasible as opposed to what was available at the time?

Kudo's on your achievement. My degree in computer systems engineering gives me credit too.


Saving links and footnotes to every resource about my plight is not something i do. I'm just trying to open minds to the fact that what you are told is not always truth... as you challenge me here on. If you are so closed minded and stuck in your theory then fine that's you and I'm me. This thread is called "Did man really go to the Moon?, Or were the Apollo landings faked?". Not "We Went to the Moon and that's Final". I have spoke my mind as others have. I have not challenged your words as you have mine. Like is said just think maybe.. and maybe your learn something... else.

Please answer his question. Again, it is:

What specific technology is now available that could get man to the moon but could not 50 years ago?

You made the claim that they could get there now, but not back then, so you should be able to answer this question for us seeing as you've formed such a bold opinion.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yes. google is a portal that links people to genuine, proven facts. as are books, tv shows and talk shows.