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Using a UK landline telephone in Germany

Will the phone unit work over here?

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Rilana
I have no clue about these things! unsure.gif
BadDoggie
It should work but you'll need an adapter. Just like the roads, British telephonic devices are reversed from mainland European versions. The signal travels down the left wire of your phone instead of the right which is what we have here. You should be able to pick up an adapter pretty cheaply.

woof.
Rilana
Cool. Thanks! So I just need to buy that wire that goes from the phone to the wall from Germany?!
YorkshireLad6
Actually, it might work. UK ringing voltage is 90v, whereas Germany is 60v, Many UK phones are tolerant enough to recognise the lower voltage and ring in any case, but if it is a device that actually needs to answer the phone such as a fax or answering machine, it might not recognise the call. Making calls should not be a problem. You can either simply change the connecting cable to one with a German TAE plug on it or better get an BT-TAE adapter with a capacitance boost which will simply make it compatible with the German system and solve potential ringing problems too. If it's powered you'll also need a power adapter to fit the German Schuko socket.
Grinner
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Mar 8 2007, 10:37 am) *
The signal travels down the left wire of your phone instead of the right

Like you must always push off with your right foot whilst riding you bicycle! wink.gif
Rilana
Thanks so much - thats brilliant. Just found this: Telephone Adapter (Germany)

Definitely cheaper than buying a new phone.

and re bikes - I never really cycled in London (not quite suicidal yet) only in Germany - so what a shock I had (and almost crashed) when I did and realised they dont have the back-pedal-break here!! ohmy.gif
Grinner
Your UK phone dosent have an RJ11 on both ends, does it?

You can get the correct adaptor from Eventful- communications. they can also set up your phone and internet needs so that its ready when you arrive here!
YorkshireLad6
QUOTE (Rilana @ Mar 8 2007, 9:19 am) *

That's messy and probably won't work. You'd need a TAE-RJ11 adapter AND a RJ-11 to BT adapter and even then you've not solved the ringing problem as these adapters are passive.
Rilana
huh.gif me=confused.

What's an RJ11 and how do I know if I have it at both ends?!

I'll have a look at that link...

Thanks!
Grinner
This is the cable you should have.....

The smaller end is the bit that fits in your phone!
Rilana
ok - gotcha. Thanks. smile.gif
Fairfax71
QUOTE (Rilana @ Mar 8 2007, 9:19 am) *
and re bikes - I never really cycled in London (not quite suicidal yet) only in Germany - so what a shock I had (and almost crashed) when I did and realised they dont have the back-pedal-break here!!

Eh? My wife's bike and mine both have a backpedal brake along with the hand brake...?

If you ask at the shop for a bike with a backpedal brake, you can certainly get one. IIRC most so-called "city bikes" have them, along with many mountain bikes.

Cheers,

Fairfax71
Fairfax71
QUOTE (Rilana @ Mar 8 2007, 9:54 am) *
me=confused.

What's an RJ11 and how do I know if I have it at both ends?!

I'll have a look at that link...

RJ11 is a type of connector plug -- a small, squarish, usually clear plastic plug. It looks like this:

[img]http://www.blinn.edu/acadtech/resnet/rj11-45.gif[/img]

The end that goes into your phone is more than likely an RJ11 socket.

German phones, however, nearly always have a different type of connector that goes into the wall. That type of plug is called TAE-F. The socket looks like this:

[img]http://www.telefon.de/images/big/tae-f-ap.jpg[/img]

Note the little "F" immediately to the left of the socket. (This is to differentiate from the TAE-N socket, which is used for other telecoms devices such as fax machines.) The plug looks like this:

[img]http://www.kabelshop-online.de/images/PT-173b.jpg[/img]

So the adapter linked above should be the one that does the trick. However, as someone else noted, it's possible that the voltage on the line in Germany isn't enough to power your phone. IIRC most phones today are made for the global market and thus are compatible with most phone systems, provided you have the right plug, but that's not always the case.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Fairfax71
Grinner
Fairfax..

I dont think you have understood the issues here!

In General, a UK phone will not ring here in germany, even if you fit the correct TAE cable..

Whats needed is a TAE cable to a BT Master socket.. Then it will ring.

However as usual, there are exceptions to tghis rule, and its Siemens phones that are the Exception... Typically.
Rilana
huh.gif confused again. Sorry sad.gif

maybe dont bother trying to explain anything (my non-technical brain overloads) and just tell me what I need to buy perhaps?
YorkshireLad6
If you don't understand it, then anything you buy will probably be wrong, or best case, not right. In such circumstances professional advice and support is often a better investment.
Jack
You can get a cheap telephone here for €20 so why bother bringing one from the UK?
MrD
I had my UK phone connected via one of those socket-converters that you can buy at the airport when I was first here. The phone worked fine but did not ring for incoming calls. Solved the problem by connecting a €10 German phone as well as the full-featured UK phone. I still use the UK phone, the cheapo German one is just there to make a ringing noise.
Hope this helps & is not to technical.
MrD
I had my UK phone connected via one of those socket-converters that you can buy at the airport when I was first here. The phone worked fine but did not ring for incoming calls. Solved the problem by connecting a €10 German phone as well as the full-featured UK phone. I still use the UK phone, the cheapo German one is just there to make a ringing noise.
Hope this helps & is not to technical.
Tom17
I have an old corded phone for 5eur if you are interested.
Grinner
I will give you a clue...

These cost 25€ plus postage!

[img]http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c148/satman124/BTAdaptor.jpg[/img]
speakfreak
QUOTE (YorkshireLad6 @ Mar 8 2007, 9:54 am) *
Actually, it might work. UK ringing voltage is 90v, whereas Germany is 60v, Many UK phones are tolerant enough to recognise the lower voltage and ring in any case, but if it is a device that actually needs to answer the phone such as a fax or answering machine, it might not recognise the call. Making calls should not be a problem. You can either simply change the connecting cable to one with a German TAE plug on it or better get an BT-TAE adapter with a capacitance boost which will simply make it compatible with the German system and solve potential ringing problems too. If it's powered you'll also need a power adapter to fit the German Schuko socket.

Hi All

I need a new phone for my apartment in the UK and I've got a T-Com Sinus whatever cordless phone here in Germany that I don't use any more. Does YL6s advice mean that the German phone will work OK in the UK so long as I get the right cable to match? Or will the extra voltage be too much and fry the ringing circuit? I know that the T-Com/Siemens/Bosch phones are wired in a different order than other brands but that should be possible to solve shouldn't it?
YorkshireLad6
It will work. The tolerance is such that the additional voltywolties won't worry it too much... You just need a BT-RJ11 connecting cable which you can buy at most UK DIY stores
speakfreak
Great! Thanks for that...
libby
QUOTE (Grinner @ Mar 8 2007, 3:44 pm) *
I will give you a clue...

These cost 25€ plus postage!

From where? And just to confirm - does it do the voltage conversion? (I got lost in the previous posts)
Grinner
Libby..

They cost 25€ + postage from me!

Yes they will do the voltage upconversion

G
dank
When I moved to Germany, I brought over my old landline telephone & answering machine. When I plug it in, its completely dead. We bought a cheap piece of crap from Conrads and this works fine even though it has the same connections. Does anyone know what the difference is? I'd love it use my old phone as it was a really good phone.

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YorkshireLad6
QUOTE (dank @ Jul 5 2008, 10:47 am) *
...a cheap piece of crap from Conrads and this works fine even though it has the same connections.

But it doesn't have the same connections, as you found out...
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