Visa for a Ukrainian parent of German national

I am British my wife is Ukrainian, sorry now a German very soon, just waiting for the finalisation eg the passport etc.
She wants to invite her mother a Ukrainian national, yes my mother in law to come and stay with us in Germany.
Is it possible that she can live with us?

Does anyone know what the maximum stay period is with a visa?
I have a feeling that is a maximum of 180 days in a 1 year period.
Can anyone confirm this?

Then we may want to apply for her to stay with us either longer or indefinitely.
Does anyone know how we find more ifo on this?

Is the Kreis..w...ung place where we need to go?

I wanted to put out feelers or get info from elsewhere before we gave them any specifics eg our names and numbers etc.

Any help and ideas gratefully recieved.

Do you WANT your mother-in-law to live with you in which case you are looking for help keeping her here.

Or do you NOT WANT her to live with you in which case you want arguments / rules to keep her out?

I am being serious.
I/we want ther to live here.
I want help only in the informational sense.
We/she will be looked after by us and SHE WILL not be a financial burden on the German state or the EU.

From the Europa website:

"YOUR RIGHTS
The following members of the family have the right to install themselves with the worker:

the spouse and their descendants who are under the age of 21 years or are dependants;
dependent relatives in the ascending line of the worker and his/her spouse.
Facilities will be accorded to the admission of any other member of the family who is dependent on the worker or who lived under his roof in the country of origin."

http://ec.europa.eu/youreurope/nav/en/citi...r/index_en.html

google for the ukrainian embassy and call them and ask. much the easiest way than asking us lot.

Can I ask you on what basis your wife is receiving German passport?
As a German citizen she can try to get her mother stay wih her on the basis of § 36 of Aufenthaltsgesetz, but usually it is very difficult to get through, I have heard of many cases, when people tried to get their parents here, but I haven't heard yet even of the first one, who succeded in this. Maybe you will make history.


For one visit 90 days. Then she'd have to go back for three months and can come again for 90 days, thus 180 days a year, your feeling is right.


Yes, Kreisverwaltungsreferat or KVR at Poccistrasse.


It will be very tiring and expensive. I read somewhere about rights of EU citizen to bring their dependant relatives to Germany, but very oddly German cititzens only could do that in the case of so called außergewöhnlichen Härte. This is this §36 to which I gave you a link above.

You instead can try to do it on the basis of
§ 3 of the same law, but better get a lawyer to do this for you. The biggest problem will be that no insurance company will want to take her or the insurance will be very, very expensive.

Good luck, anyway, please keep me updated.