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How to pick up a German ice princess

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fatcat
QUOTE (gururise)
Here is what will happen to you when you approach the hot german ice princess:

Braumeister: Hi.. uh.. nice shoes, blah blah... I think you're beautiful. ..soo... do you come here often?
Ice Princess: You can stop now, cause were not going to fuck..

Or worse.. she'll ask you to buy her a drink and bat her eyelashes at you, and you'll supplicate her and then once she has her drink, she'll stop talking to you. You have to remember, its not her fault for being a bitch, its her protection mechanism from the barrage of bore she has to deal with every day... Just ask the 25 other guys who came up to her before you did. You can try the other clubs, but don't expect to do any better.

If she says she can't speak english, thats just a nice way of saying..."get lost, Im not interested in talking to you"... and I'm not picking on you.. I used to make the same mistakes too.

Saw this post in the other thread... and now you really got me curious. What IS the proper way to find and approach a beautiful German woman??
Keydeck
QUOTE (fatcat @ Feb 28 2007, 1:50 pm) *
What IS the proper way to find and approach a beautiful German woman??

At no more than 0.5m per second. Apparently their vision is based on movement.

Blatently stolen reference
fatcat
how about some venues and tips on what to say when you meet a german girl?
Punchbear
Netzer & Overrath? Now that the windows are gone, it's more meat locker than aquarium.
But a great bar all the same.

Oh, that Berlin. Is there a Fleischmarkt F**k in Berlin? Otherwise I'm out.
eurovol
I know a few parking lots where you can pick up any number of German girls and other nationalities as well.
fatcat
QUOTE (Punchbear @ Feb 28 2007, 1:59 pm) *
Netzer & Overrath? Now that the windows are gone, it's more meat locker than aquarium.
But a great bar all the same.

That place is in Munich!
And when I meet a German girl, what should I say to her?
cabbagefairy
Hi is a good place to start. If she is interested she will say it back and stick around. Otherwise you will be greeted with a "erm hi" followed by a quick nod of the head to her friends and a swift get away into the dance floor.
Punchbear
QUOTE (fatcat @ Feb 28 2007, 2:07 pm) *
That place is in Munich!

I know, I know, I missed that part of the breadcrumb.

QUOTE (fatcat @ Feb 28 2007, 2:07 pm) *
And when I meet a German girl, what should I say to her?

You say "Servus Süsser, ich habe ins Internet mal gelesen dass dein Vater eine Brauerei besitzt? Du heisst doch Paris Augustiner, ned wahr?".
If she looks at you blankly then back away slowly saying "Keine Panik, ich wollte bloss mein Deutsch ausprobieren - es ist so schwierig ins Gespräch mit euch zu kommen. Was findet ihr lustig dann? Ausser mein Gesicht.".
first-time-caller
firemans lift.
Punchbear
Followed by buckets to your mates. Tag teams work best.
fatcat
Im a nice guy, but the german women I meet seem to either not be interested, or can't speak english. What is a nice, decent looking guy suppose to do? With all the talk about boring german men, how are they able to find themselves a girlfriend?
Wee Mun
Because these ice maidens want a boring german guy.

I gave up on german bints years ago, I cannot behave myself well enough for them laugh.gif

Have had no problem on the girlfriend front as I look for the right qualities... non-german!
coolerking
sounds more like english girls back in the 80's to me . I think german girls on the whole are ok as long as you don't feed them with corny chat up lines. If you think theres no chemistry between you then don't buy her a drink then make your excuses and leave quite simple really
first-time-caller
Fatcat what clubs and pubs have you been going to in Berlin?
gururise
Just a few tips.
1. I recommend to NEVER buy a girl you just met a drink.
2. Most girls you are gonna meet are bored, and looking for some sort of stimulation to break out of their boring daily routine.
3. The 3 Second Rule: If you see a girl you like, go up and talk to her within 3 seconds.. If you wait longer, you are gonna look like you are not sure of yourself and that you are scared.

I think German girls are awesome. They have cool accents, and once you get past their Bitch Shields, they can be genuinely nice people. rolleyes.gif

Good Luck.
jtw
QUOTE (eurovol @ Feb 28 2007, 2:06 pm) *
I know a few parking lots where you can pick up any number of German girls and other nationalities as well.

I think Oranienburger Straße was already mentioned on the other thread...
Oleron
QUOTE (gururise @ Feb 28 2007, 3:34 pm) *
and once you get past their Bitch Shields, they can be genuinely nice people.

Not sure German girls have bitch shields... They are mostly just not used to flirting and casual talk...
Punchbear
They're just way too subtle. My 2 previous German girlfriends both maintained that they'd flirted outrageously with me before I got the hint. It's like as a foreigner, you have a blindspot on the radar for their signals. I think what we take as normal chat and joking around with an Irish or British girl, just havin' the craic, is for a Fraulein a nanometer away from them hopping on you, in my experience. They just don't signpost their intentions like other cultures. There's no handbook for it, if you get them laughing it's a win/win situation - she's happy, you're happy and you're immediately more comfortable aorund each other.
gururise
QUOTE (Oleron @ Feb 28 2007, 4:38 pm) *
Not sure German girls have bitch shields... They are mostly just not used to flirting and casual talk...

You're right. There are plenty of German girls who do not have bitch shields, and are quite easy to strike up a conversation with... but I'm referring to the hot ice princess you see in the club that all the guys are afraid to approach cause she's too beautiful.
Actually, these girls sometimes are quite nice, because so many guys are afraid to approach them. The ones with the really strong bitch shields are the ones who are maybe a 7 or an 8.. they are not so hot that guys are afraid to approach them, but they get told a dozen times a day by guys how pretty they are to try and get into their pants, and they think they are 10+. These types of girls can be the most challenging.

So there you have it... maybe the ice princess is not so tough after all! smile.gif

Edit: one more tip... evolutionary speaking, guys have been evolved to judge a potential mate based 90% on her looks, whereas women put alot less emphasis on looks and more on social status, because 40,000 years ago, a women would want to mate with the alpha male of the tribe cause he could offer her protection and take care of her offspring. Thats why you see the rich old guys with the porsche sitting next to the young blond. So, don't worry so much about whether you are male model material.. just imagine how tough its gotta be for a homely girl. Of course.. things may have changed in the last 40,000 years! ohmy.gif
eurovol
Because of all the formality, Germans (in my experience) use questions to give you hints.
"Do you want to leave early?" means "I want to leave early" and so forth and so on. For Americans, that is extremely difficult to grasp as it is the other way around, especially for southeners.
When we ask do you want to leave early, we then think, please say no, please say no. If we actually wanted to leave early we would say something more to the effect shit this is boring, do you want to leave early?

Ah, the subtleties of communication. Why can't people just say outright what they want?

PS: You can strike up a convo with anyone. You just have to do it and you have to listen. Not an easy task when you are drunk and horny.
Wee Mun
QUOTE (eurovol @ Feb 28 2007, 3:51 pm) *
"Do you want to leave early?" means "I want to leave early" and so forth and so on. For Americans, that is extremely difficult to grasp as it is the other way around, especially for southeners.

My favourite from an ex... I am going, you can stay out with your friends if you want...

Means...

If you don't come home with me now I will flounce around and be a narky bitch for a week...
Punchbear
Wee Mun, you're a lucky, lucky, lucky bastard. I used to get "Do you REALLY need to drink a 3rd beer?".
gururise
QUOTE (fatcat @ Feb 28 2007, 3:36 pm) *
Im a nice guy, but the german women I meet seem to either not be interested, or can't speak english.

biggrin.gif Thats your problem! You are too nice, you should know by now that women don't want nice guys.
Oma Stelzbok
Men don't want nice girls either ph34r.gif
eurovol
I was just at the market and there was an obvioius single girl checking out the pizzas for dinner. She then was counting her money to see if she had enough for the better pizza. She was really cute and worth checking out if I were no married. As an unmarried man, I would have gone up to her and said that eating alone is no fun and invited her out to dinner to eat pizza in a restaurant. This would take into account what she liked and that I would be paying. A small price to pay to find out if we had other interests. Of course, there are other fringe benefits to a friendship established that didn't go any further.
eurovol
QUOTE (Oma Stelzbok @ Feb 28 2007, 5:42 pm) *
Men don't want nice girls either

Our nightly fantasies are full of naughty women, but our days are full of nice girls. Take home message: be naughty and please your man at night and be a nice girl during the day. You will get what you want and so will we. Not so difficult is it?
candy
AMEN
phoenix-rose
ROTFLOL-

for all of you bitching, what the heck? Why aren't you posting profile pictures?

I am sure that there more than just "ex pats" that read these boards - and that *might* just *might* want to know you if they see you at a Pub Nite or whatever. That way they could get the chance to "chat you up".

Something to think about.

~Rose
Nera
You're so damn right, Rose! :-)
And you guys seem to forget that you all have the foreigner's bonus - even if you are actually totally boring chaps, the mere fact that you speak English (ideally with an Irish or a Scottish accent :-) might make you attractive!
caralla
hi...i sooooooooo needed to laugh when i read this...lol...i´m a german girl by myself and really HAD TO READ this...as it´s true...when i used to live in london (for about two years) people said to me german girls are known as terminatras or fighting amazonas...i was very much surprised by this as i didn´t know that people from other countries see us like this.
anyway...i don´t think that we are cold...just resevered and shy. we actually all want to have an english speaking friend or boyfriend as we think it is cool to have them. the problem is that we all learnt english at school...and when it comes to the moment when a hot english guy is coming to us and wants to talk to you...and all you can put out is your name (as in this moment you realise that the english you learnt at school is actually not as good as you thought...basicly> crap) you rather pretend in being not interested then feeling embarrassed for your horrible english...well thats what i did...as it´s an very unpleasant feeling when you want to impress the other one with your english and you realise that you actually can´t...

so boys: don´t feel bad about yourselfs...it has nothing to do with you!!! as we german girls think you are cool...we just don´t want to feel so much embarrassed talking our horrible not so nice and not so practiced english with you...:-)

i´m so happy that i lived for two years in london and i´m over it (i mean my monster-german-crap-english...arghhh...)
paulbb
It sounds as though German girls aren't as one-night-standish as British/Irish girls. In Dublin, anyway, the guys go to clubs for one reason and it's NOT a meaningful relationship and there's plenty of girls willing to oblige. In Germany, though, it sounds as though the girls are NOT as willing and get labeled as ice-princesses.

A little unfair if you ask me!

And to Caralla: Would it help if our German was much much owrse than the girl's English?!
caralla
hi...yes...as i used to live in england i have to fully admit: only a very very little percentage of german girls does one night stands...i was shocked when i came to england and realised how some english girls behave...i really have to say> some...not all...but there are much more british girls which are more openminded to this kind of thing...in germany it´s more of an >no-go!!! but it dosn´t mean that we don´t like this guy...we just don´t want to have sex with every person we like;-)...otherwise we would be quite busy...lol...

about your crap-german vs crap-english of the germans...
well...the funny thing is that the germans don´t exspect you to talk in german...they will be even much surprised if you can...but they exspect themselfes to speak good english as this shows how well-educated you are ( for how log you went to school etc...) and being a (young!!!)german and not speaking a good english is very embarrassing for us...
bondjamesbond
QUOTE (caralla @ Mar 26 2008, 5:32 pm) *
hi...i sooooooooo needed to laugh when i read this...lol...i´m a german girl by myself and really HAD TO READ this...as it´s true...when i used to live in london (for about two years) people said to me german girls are known as terminatras or fighting amazonas...i was very much surprised by this as i didn´t know that people from other countries see us like this.
anyway...i don´t think that we are cold...just resevered and shy. we actually all want to have an english speaking friend or boyfriend as we think it is cool to have them. the problem is that we all learnt english at school...and when it comes to the moment when a hot english guy is coming to us and wants to talk to you...and all you can put out is your name (as in this moment you realise that the english you learnt at school is actually not as good as you thought...basicly> crap) you rather pretend in being not interested then feeling embarrassed for your horrible english...well thats what i did...as it´s an very unpleasant feeling when you want to impress the other one with your english and you realise that you actually can´t...

so boys: don´t feel bad about yourselfs...it has nothing to do with you!!! as we german girls think you are cool...we just don´t want to feel so much embarrassed talking our horrible not so nice and not so practiced english with you...:-)

i´m so happy that i lived for two years in london and i´m over it (i mean my monster-german-crap-english...arghhh...)

damn!! Next time I pretend to be English. I`ll have to work on an english accent. Maybe take some diction lessons
HEM
QUOTE (caralla @ Mar 26 2008, 5:16 pm) *
well...the funny thing is that the germans don´t expect you to talk in german...they will be even much surprised if you can...but they expect themselves to speak good english as this shows how well-educated you are ( for how log you went to school etc...) and being a (young!!!)german and not speaking a good english is very embarrassing for us...

Maybe this was my problem all those years back - I could speak reasonable German (can't write it) and on top of that I could cook which I think put some girls off...
caralla
^^...lol...aam...yes...probably...as most of the german girls can´t cook either ( lucky me: i can)...so of course> you came as an cool englsh/american/canadian (i don´t now where you are coming from) guy who could even speak their language AND you could even cook for them: SCARY!!! but be sure: behind your back the girls admired you and called all of their friends to tell them what a cool guy they have met...aham...well...girls rolleyes.gif...
caralla
bondjamesbond: well...it doesn´t have to be a british accent...it works with every english speaking accent...like american/australian etc-english-accent...
what german girls really don´t like( or think it´s not cooler then our own german accent) is for example a polish, russian or turkish accent. as we have so many of them in our country and think that they are not cool ( sorry to any people from there...)...but as real americans/australians/brit´s are very rare here we love to meet them and listen to them ...:-)...my brother for example is very popular in china...he lives there since six month now...and he has ginger hair and freckles...and of course comes from europe and is german...the people love him there:-D. as for them he is special...
TobyG.
biggrin.gif oh my god.
well, maybe here are some readers who take some words written here serious: please, DON'T
caralla
hihi... wink.gif hopefully they don´t practice their english accent now...lol...
bondjamesbond
QUOTE (caralla @ Mar 29 2008, 3:25 pm) *
bondjamesbond: well...it doesn´t have to be a british accent...it works with every english speaking accent...like american/australian etc-english-accent...
what german girls really don´t like( or think it´s not cooler then our own german accent) is for example a polish, russian or turkish accent. as we have so many of them in our country and think that they are not cool ( sorry to any people from there...)...but as real americans/australians/brit´s are very rare here we love to meet them and listen to them ...:-)...my brother for example is very popular in china...he lives there since six month now...and he has ginger hair and freckles...and of course comes from europe and is german...the people love him there:-D. as for them he is special...

i dont like turks as well.
how do german gals like portuguese guys? I mean,the ones who arent peasant looking immigrants?
caralla
i think it depends entirely on the personal taste...of course: if they don´t look very nice then maybe they are not as successfull wit girls...but te same can happen to an unattractive german/english/american etc guy as well...
i just wanted to say: don´t be afraid of german girls...in gererally we like you english speaking crowd very much smile.gif
TobyG.
QUOTE (bondjamesbond @ Mar 29 2008, 4:18 pm) *
how do german gals like portuguese guys?

They - at least most of them (the german girls) - watched the World Cup 2006... so: portugese guys have to run away to escape german girls!
bondjamesbond
you must be talking about Ronaldo?!
I dont look typical anyways, but ill get a suntan before going to Berlin
radio_snob
QUOTE (caralla @ Mar 29 2008, 2:25 pm) *
bondjamesbond: well...it doesn´t have to be a british accent...it works with every english speaking accent...like american/australian etc-english-accent... ...but as real americans/australians/brit´s are very rare here we love to meet them and listen to them ...

from experience, i've noticed that the aussie accent is kinda useful in talking to the gals. be it german or whatever
i've had to tone my accent back a little at work to be understood, but in the bars and clubs, it comes back in force.

as to the "ice princess" tag, just depends on the place i suppose.
go to a place like spindler & klatt, and they'll be a bit up themselves (but the guys are too).
go to watergate, 103 or maria, and they're all completely down-to-earth and cool.

but in the real world, and out of the bars, then its a whole new ball game.
robinson100
Hi Fatcat,
the best tip I can give you is - don´t appear to be desperate!!
- they´ll let oyu buy them drinks all evening long, and then go on home with their girlfriends at the end of the evening...
Why don´t you join a sports club or something where you work or play together with the girlies, and then you can really get to know them a bit before maybe asking them out...
Most of us want a man who is also a friend - not just somebody who wants a quick shag and will be off looking for the next one as soon as he has had breakfast
Whatever it is you are looking ofr, I hope you find it!!
caralla
you guys are soooooooooo sweet...really...
smoofy
Have you tried the Pimsleur German series? I've been using it to try and prepare for my language course, but so far all it has taught me is how to order beer and pick up on German women. As I'm female, I guess the first of the two is at least useful (;
radio_snob
cheers for the tip wink.gif definitely checking that out!
vincecanada
I like how by like lesson two or so you are taught how to say "would you like to have a drink at my place", but not "Hi, My name is ..."
schadenfrau
QUOTE (robinson100 @ Mar 29 2008, 8:49 pm) *
Hi Fatcat,
the best tip I can give you is - don´t appear to be desperate!!

Agreed. You can actually BE as desperate as it gets, but don't let it show. Most women can smell desperation a mile off and if they do then they will either ignore you derisively or rip you to shreds in front of your mates... depending on the particular personality.

I consider myself a really nice, friendly kinda woman. I can get on with anyone and would never reject someone's attempt at conversation in a pub... BUT there's something that really raises the hackles about someone who just seems to want to get lucky for getting lucky's sake (nothing wrong with that, just rubs me - and countless others - the wrong way...)

I don't know why anyone would WANT to pick up an ice princess... but diff'rent strokes. Though better than a warm puddle by all accounts - shallow and with a suspicious scent ;-)
gazbarji
god this topic is funny. girls are the same all over the world, only ice princess's when they get some ugly wart, staring at there tits and foaming at the mouth come over.
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