smurf
Feb 13 2007, 4:43 pm
Hello how many train stops can you use the Kurzstrecke on the U and S Bahn?
Mariposa
Feb 13 2007, 4:46 pm
In Berlin it's up to 3 stops on S/U Bahn and up to 6 on bus/tram.
For Munich 2 and 4.
Which city are you asking about?
smurf
Feb 13 2007, 4:56 pm
thanks for your replies in relation to Berlin it's 3 stops inclusive for U and S Bahn
Hutcho
Feb 13 2007, 5:30 pm
3 and 6 would be excellent, I wish they'd do that here in Munich. So many times I have to travel 3 or 6 so I would have to buy a zone 1..
Small Town Boy
Feb 13 2007, 5:36 pm
Maybe the stops are closer together in Berlin...
AlysonJoan
Feb 13 2007, 5:42 pm
No, the stops aren't closer together in Berlin. Berlin is just a lot bigger than Munich and has a lot more stops.
Keydeck
Feb 13 2007, 5:48 pm
Once more Dougal, those cows are far away.
Mariposa
Feb 13 2007, 5:52 pm
The Kurzstrecke Ticket in Berlin is also a bit more expensive than in Munich.
By the way, here you can look up all kinds of information on the Berlin public transport:
http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/Bvg/Start
Himself
Feb 13 2007, 6:18 pm
You're right... there's all kinds of information on this website, but nothing specific on fare prices and kurzstrecke.
QUOTE (Himself @ Feb 13 2007, 6:18 pm)

nothing specific on fare prices and kurzstrecke.
http://www.bvg.de/index.php/en/Bvg/Detail/...short-trip+fare
MonksTown
Feb 13 2007, 6:49 pm
Last time I did a like for like comparison, all berlin tickets were dear than good old MVV.
Mariposa
Feb 13 2007, 9:49 pm
QUOTE (jtw @ Feb 13 2007, 6:44 pm)

Thanks for posting the link. I actually got the info on Kurzstrecke there (on the German website version) so I would have been surprised if the English version didn't contain the same info.
sarabyrd
Feb 13 2007, 9:53 pm
You were a heroine for posting the only correct answer earlier on in the thread.
Himself
Feb 13 2007, 11:31 pm
thanks jtw, good link, and thanks Mariposa - till now I had been doing the €2.10 thing for just a stop or two.
Mariposa
Feb 13 2007, 11:40 pm
Yeah that would get expensive. Glad it helped.
gooner_gal
Feb 14 2007, 10:09 am
QUOTE (MonksTown @ Feb 13 2007, 7:49 pm)

Last time I did a like for like comparison, all berlin tickets were dear than good old MVV.
Yes, but in Berlin you don't have the (IMHO) stupid ring/zone system. I hated that in Munich. And a single ticket to the airport (all 3) costs 2.10 EUR
jtw
Feb 14 2007, 11:06 am
Well, we do have AB, BC and ABC. Is Munich's stupider?
It's nice just having an ABC Jahreskarte and not having to worry about it.
perdido
Feb 14 2007, 11:09 am
There seems to be less stops here in berlin. I have come to the conclusion Munich system is one one of the easiest in Europe.
gooner_gal
Feb 14 2007, 12:53 pm
QUOTE (jtw @ Feb 14 2007, 12:06 pm)

Well, we do have AB, BC and ABC. Is Munich's stupider?
It's nice just having an ABC Jahreskarte and not having to worry about it.
Erm...yeah. So instead of ABC, they have Zones 1, 2, 3, and 4. In each zone there are 4 rings - smaller zones. That means that you have to travel through 16 rings or 4 zones to get from Marienplatz to the airport. A single ticket cost EUR 8.40 (when I left over a year ago). But, if you have a zone 1 ticket and want to go 1 stop further then you either have to buy a ticket for the whole of zone 2 or use your Streifenkarte. Don't ask me how that works as even after 4 years it was still a mystery to me
Give me AB any day. I can get pretty much anywhere in Berlin with that ticket. I have never needed an extension to Zone C, but for instance, if I wanted to go to Potsdam I would have to buy an extension ticket for the extortionate price of...EUR 1,30.
Mariposa
Feb 14 2007, 2:21 pm
No it hasn't gotten any easier. I don't really ever need to go outside the Innenraum, so I usually don't care, but going to the airport is kinda annoying. And the cheapest way is actually to use a Streifenkarte on the Innenraum and a Tagesticket on the Außenraum.
Freiheit
Feb 14 2007, 2:25 pm
One more offtopic question -- in Munich, what if you have a two ring monthly ticket and want to go to the airport? Is your montly ticket worthless?
gooner_gal
Feb 14 2007, 2:34 pm
Pretty much. Or you could get off the train at the last stop of the 2nd ring and stamp your Streifenkarte to the end of the Innenraum and then get off the train again and stamp your 3 zone single...
Mariposa
Feb 14 2007, 2:40 pm
QUOTE (Freiheit @ Feb 14 2007, 2:25 pm)

One more offtopic question -- in Munich, what if you have a two ring monthly ticket and want to go to the airport? Is your montly ticket worthless?
Yeah. If there were only two stops in rings 3 and 4, you would have been able to pay only a Kurzstrecke for the remaining stops in the Innenraum, but I just checked and it's four or something.
Sure makes one appreciate how the BVG went out of their way to draw the Berlin B/C border to go around SXF so it's covered by an AB!
It may have changed, but for a while the Potsdam ABC ticket (single and Tageskarte, at least) cost the same as the Berlin BC. Since all of Potsdam is in Berlin C, there was really no point in buying a Potsdam ABC. Nice excuse to have a ticket to go into (outer) Berlin, just in case.
Freiheit
Feb 14 2007, 3:44 pm
Thought so, thanks for confirming!
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