TT meetups and the planning of

Before planning any events or posting anything relating to any meetups please ensure that your proposed event does not clash in any way with the "Touch Rugby" schedule. This is very important and should not be ignored or else, as Johnathon Ross would say, "You wun the wisk of annoying the Touch Wugby Assistant Twainers", or T.W.A.T.s

we don't have any assistant trainers...U volunteering for the TWAT job?

@TR Players and Fans: no offense...i love you and your funny shaped ball, now for sale For sale: Touch Rugby Balls but...
@KeyDeck: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Fucking HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Seriously, so err where whats the etiquette on posting to the calendar? I thought about a steak night -even had my handcrafted invitations at the printers-but then the pizza patrol beat me to the night in question. Anyway, no one needs a big juicy steak this time around. However, I think posting events on the calendar -LIKE the TR players do-is a tops idea so peeps and especially newbies can have a handy looksee at alll the possibilities.

Edit. Nevermind, i see the TR peeps don't post on the calendar. Eh good idea but probably to much of a pia. (pain in the ass). Still a good joke though - props Irish wonder

It seems the Touch Rugby enthusiasm is ruffling feathers

This isn'´t surprising when you realise that circa 25 people regularily play/support before bolstering the TT Tuesday numbers.

To avoid any accusations of dominating/flooding, lets try and just keep references to within the Sports thread.

It's now removed from the calendar.

btw, the Tournament is in 2 weeks after which thus the team will probably move off TT.

Hey why'd ya do that? I thought it would be useful and yeah I likes you sweaty beasts at the TT drinksies. Ok I've not been to so many but it was a good crowd.

@keydeck - trying to make a subtle point mate??? Well done on the subtlety levels there...impressive diplomacy skills in evidence as usual.

As for ruffling feathers - unruffled over here, but that's probably because the footie starts on Saturday, and my Tottenham Hotspur related posts will go through the roof, and be of even less relevance to most people than the Touch Rugby...Gimme a Y, gimme an I, gimme a D, gimme another D, gimme an I, gimme an O, what have you got???
YIDD-I-O, YIDD-I-O, YIDD-I-O, etc...
And for the record - 2-1 to Spurs, Murphy to net the decider. Lump on now, you'll get great odds.

My tuppenceworth.

Whenever Toytown changes direction slightly or massivly people are happy un happy etc.

Take for example the arrival of jimbo and sparty (guys - sorry for using you as examples)

somepeople I know had no problems with em, others hated em. But over the time, they've grown up in their TT postings, and are now repspectible members of the communitiy (IMHO)

live and let live. You dont have to read every thread, rugby isnt taking over the world, but likewise other people arent organising things (sorry work commitments)

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wow, keydeck your comment has to rate as superbly bitchy. my 14 year old niece would be very envious of your talents.

why not post a deck of key rules for all to read and tick and adhere to before posting or initiating anything on this here site?

seems to me there is more of a fragmentation and 'clustering' than a change in direction. TT is now so big (which is a tribute to its usefulness, friendliness and appeal) that there is no single 'direction' as far as I can see.

there're now a number of groups who have their own interests that sort of bind them (clubbing, sports, curry, etc) and often they will not meet or mix. The (recent) days of the majority of active users turning up to a certain australian's leaving party or a beergarden arrangement are behind us I feel, for better or worse.

It is impossible to read everything and the corollary is that people get frustrated when they can't find stuff they want. So, kids we gotta respect each others space and sh*t - there's room for everyone as long as we realise not everyone wants to talk about what we wanna talk about.

dunno if this sort of navel-gazing is of any use but maybe people could try and keep topics restricted to one main thread and perhaps think a bit more about the 10% rule (whatever happened to that anyway?)

I think the community here is absolutely great, one of the best uses of the internet I have personally found and one that has had a big effect on my life in munich, so that should be preserved above all - we don't want to have any restrictive rules I agree.

um... stumbling to reach a conclusion. hmm, y'know. play nicely and all that.

@pootle: Well said.

@shaggy: No, touch rugby enthusiasm isn't ruffling feathers. Touch rugby overenthusiasm (i.e posting reminders about it in nearly every event thread) is what ruffles feathers. Complaints were received, so we (the moderators) had to try to calm things down a bit. Then of course, as a result of that, we have to put up with the bitching about us for the next x days/weeks/months/whatever.

@jml: No reason why there can't be multiple events on a given night.

EDIT:
@brummie: Well said also.

I'm sure that Keydeck was taking the piss but trying to make a point none the less. Considering he doesn't even live in Munich anymore, I wouldn't really worry about his opinion. Sorry Keydeck, but that's the truth.

Agreed, TR was mentioned a lot and it was slightly annoying. So what? Is that extra 3 seconds of reading going to ruin your day? Yes, I complained when there was too much noise on the Italy thread, but for the most part it doesn't bother me. Anyways, there's complaining and then there's being nasty.

The other way around as well. People can get frustrated when you see them in person and they found out that you haven't read some of their posts. It sounds weird, but it's true.

Pootle's dead right - I arrived with a couple of other bods, and I think the tone of our postings at the time were out of kilter with what had previously been found on TT and it caused disharmony, a fact I readily accept, and also accept why it caused disharmony. As time passed I changed my attitude (a bit ) and I think others became used to my way of using the site - a happy medium was struck I think.
We're at a juncture not dis-similar now I think, and it'll probably take a little time, but people get used to each other and another happy medium will be struck. The real key when organisng things is to make sure you don't shout too loudly and sometimes take a back seat and let other people organise their thing - if that maxim is adhered to everybody will get along just fine. TT is indeed big enough for everybody - we don't want another 'curry night' style row IMHO (for the new users, you'll have to do a search for the 'row' in question).
Anyway - just my opinion...I'm off to the launderette now and then I'm gonna come home and start a Tottenham Hotspur supporters club in Munich

Aw sheesh, I was just extracting the urine. I thought it was amusing so I posted it. I think a couple of people found it amusing as well. I actually wasted about 5 minutes trying to get some other acronyms as well but they didn't pan out. Just as well probably. As Showem pointed out I'm not even in Munich anymore (although I'll always be there in spirit - rum being the spirit of choice) so I really don't have a say in what anyone posts, although I do admit to having enjoyed seeing a few ruffled feathers. 'Twas just for shits n' giggles baby, yeah!.

Whether you were taking the piss or not, you had a valid point.

And the comments from Pootle, Brummie and Jimbo were spot on - new people join, form groups with other new people who joined at the same time, get all enthusiatic about it, the older groups feel pushed out, and we end up with everyone bitching about each other. In the middle of this, there are the moderators/admins taking shit from both sides while trying to keep the whole thing running smoothly.

It's all a far cry from when we originally set it up and it was just a few mates arranging to go out for a drink together. Can't even do that anymore without people bitching about where to go, what time to start, who's booking the table, who's sitting in which seat in the car, or whatever other trivial detail.

Touch Rugby?? Wassat?

@malcolmspudbury I totally agree, I am definately one of the targets of this thread and I totally admit that I am being overenthusiastic, as I think it's a great thing to have and gives me chances to do stuff my friends aren't up to (yes, they're all mormons...)

But I have learnt to my cost that posting "hey, anyone fancy going to the lake for a paddle?" can easily become an organisational nightmare with some people expecting me to arrange every minute of their trip... even down to comments along the lines of "can I be in the cool car, and I don't want to leave before 7.30pm because I want to go shopping, and could you drop me off at nr. 41 Schließheimerstrasse, I couldn't possibly take public transport beyond Schwabing" Not to mention the chatter about "surely my choice of restauarant would have been better.."

Hence the trend towards smaller groups of like-minded people, but then it's a shame to give newbies the impression it's a clique...

I think the best thing to do is post a thread specifying exactly what is planned, stick to it, and if anyone doesn't like your plans they should PM you... or just bugger off and arrange their own event.

@ JB Good post. Especially the last paragraph.
As someone who came along even more recently than you I'd just like to add that although it may seem to newbies and lurkers that they're dealing with a cliquey load of people, in practice this is not at all the case and I've found everyone to be amazingly open and welcoming.
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@ malcom spudbury

i can believe that what you say has happened has in fact happened (the bitching, the complaining). i can believe it because such are people when in tightly-knit groups. and it's very sad. but that is one of many human flaws. you're gonna get bitching on or off this forum whether there are new people on and organising everything and posting a lot or not. because people love to bitch. oh boy do they love it: older members bitching about other older members because of what they said on this thread or other. members bitching about who that person snogged or didn't snog. about who edited out a thread title, picture and blablabloodybla. i sometimes wonder if what it comes down to is a need to guard your ground.

there was a girl who worked in the same company as me a few years ago and she liked to sit at the same table every day (open room for everyone). she started putting flowers on the corner of this table, then a little picture of her boyfriend, she would leave her books on the table, tuck the chair away, and look at anyone in a highly snooty manner if they sat there, as though marking her ground and shooing away others. this territorial behaviour drove us all insane - eventhough there were plenty of other tables to sit at (as there are plenty of other threads to post on). we started bitching about her. it's when i get involved in that that i am least proud of myself.

live and let live is truly much greater than the cliché it has become. simply because it's so bloody hard for us to do.

amen

@JB


It wasn't directed at anyone ya daft bint. It was something I thought would raise a chuckle.

@Ellewood - so who Did you snog?

Note: The use of the expression "daft bint" above is not intended to cause offence. It could just as easily have been "cloth eared bint" but was not. The word "bint" is the Arabic (which is what we speak here) word for woman and the word "daft" is used to imply that I considered the persons opinion on the subject to be a little bit silly. Places shovel at bottom of recently dug hole and sidles slowly away

bint ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bnt)
n. Chiefly British & Offensive
A woman or girl.

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[Arabic, daughter. See bn in Semitic Roots.]

I am also on eof those people responsible for shouting too loud about the gam ethat shall not be named and I humbly apologise for trying to enthuse others to a new sport. I admit I get carried away with it, but I love playing and I love meeting new people through the sport and I love the social aspect of drinking in the beergardens afterwards. I hope others get to experience this.

I have also tried not to be cliquey (spelling?), I also go to the curry night regularly (thanks Richard) I try to get to TT drinks if possible and have been to the cinema, BBQs and everything. POint is I try out other peoples things as well (even played American Football, a game I actually loath).

I have found the people in TT fantastic, really friendly and welcoming and have thoroughly enjoyed every ebvent i have been to. I have never had a row or difference of opinion with any face to face (we can save that for postings )

A few months ago an event dominated every aspect of TT life (something to do with a game played with round balls). I don't remember any complaints about the Euros or that TT Tuesday was at GMs to watch the footie. I am not a football fan, do not claim to know anything about but tried to embrace the fun and came and watched and SUPPORTED England (as a welshman i deserve a medal for that alone )

Sure, there are different opinions, needs and wants out there but the best thing is to be flexible and enjoy other peoples passions as well as your own.

As a newbie I have just started coming to the events...I think it is easy to pick and choose what you want to attend. Not everything appeals to everyone. If it works with your schedule, great...if not, oh well...there is always next time. Yes there are people who already know each other and do things together on a regular basis...and if they don't want newbies they should not post to the entire forum. I assume if it is on the forum...all are welcome to attend. I am just up for meeting new people...and the best way to do that is by putting yourself out there.

If people have cars and are able to drive to certain events, that certainly helps with things that are out of reach of public transport. If there is room in a car for me...great...I will totally appreciate it (@JB & Petal...thanks again for Sunday)...if not, s'okay too. If I really want to be there, I will find a way.

As for touch rugby stuff...I think it is great that people are enthusiastic about doing something like that. I am personally not involved...so I will just avoid reading what does not pertain to what I am interested in. I certainly don't hold it against them for being excited.

I really enjoy this forum and have found all the people I have met so far to be really fun and interesting...and accepting. I plan to continue to go to events...whether there is a clique or not...just want to get out and enjoy!

i like what blimeygirl said.

@ keydeck

heehee

personally think its fine that people are getting involved in sporting activities and enjoying the start of summer and using munich's facilities extensively ie its beergardens.

to the hardened cynic.. touch rugby may appear at first glance to be a little gay but am sure it beats the shit out of being stuck indoors in some rathole pub sweating your pods off (transfixed by a big screen)

anyway each to their own..

tolerance is key.

each thread has its place.
And friendly banter is funny as well as long as it is not everywhere and not about a small group of ppl, most ppl dont know...

Sparty is right, nothing more annoying then when you post something and ppl overread it because of too much "friendly banter" which got nothing to do with the actual thread. this is hijacking another thread...

Toytown has become big and everything has been discussed before so threads will be focused on recent events. Every serious questions will end with "use the search feature"

Organizing big events is good, but just see that there are several ppl doing different things and they dont want to be overwhelmed and scared off trying to organize other stuff cause it could clash with one of the "bigger events"...
Toytown is a great place with all sorts of "individuals", so TT shouldn't be polarised.

Another thing is that TT actually should be informative so it makes it easier for ppl who are new in town to settle in.
It is not a playground for bored people, and I cant count the times we had discussions before.
By the way, nobody is any target here!

We are all very open and welcoming and people come and go... Toytown is changing "a living process".
It is good that there are new things and new events but leave some air to breathe for the old ones even though it is hard to say who belongs to the "older generation". Those will know who I mean.
And some are around Toytown and are not even called by their name but by friend of... although they are much longer around then the one who has posted it...
There is a lot of insider things, and bitching about situations you are not fully involved is always dangerous.

JB, I know what you are talking about in sticking to a plan, and you are right.
Sometimes it is just all bout striking the right note.
So, it sometimes is understood as "Do what I say or feck off".
Which I dont say you do, just saying what ppl might could perhaps... think. (I hope that made sense) Just giving my opinion, no offense.
Some of the suggestions might be really helpful, so no harm listening to them.
And some ppl can organise themselves while still taking part on a bigger event, which doesn't mean , that they don't enjoy or appreciate the event.
Diplomacy is a good thing.

A Google Image Search for "Rugby Monkey" yielded this:

That's Lansdowne Road that is, the pride of Irish sporting venues.

Where is Big C when you need him?
I'd love to read his comment!

What this thread seems to me to boil down to - by that I mean the serious bits after the laughs at the start - is that it's not felt to be sociable behaviour to hijack a thread. The occasional humorous 'interjection' can lighten the tone and brighten everyone's day, but when an informative thread gets dragged off in an irrelevant direction then it can be annoying.

@ bubblylady I think you make a good point about the tone of a post being easily misunderstood.
The written language in the hands of lay people - especially those who are typing quickly because they really ought to be working - does not always come across in the way it was written, despite the use of smileys. When I reread some things that I have written for instance they 'sound' pompous, which was certainly not the way I felt when I wrote them. At least not always. Conclusion for me: don't take posts to the open forum personally, just read them objectively. And if you want to say something personal or that adds no value to the thread in general then send a PM as JB says.

@ keydek A perfect example of how a light-hearted comment can get people excited. Keep em coming up

rereading what I typed yesterday I totally agree, I know I shouldn't be posting and working at the same time

Heehee glad you can do that. Being a male I am genetically incapable of doing any two things at once
But I digress. Naughty Jeeves.

I take offence at that. I can eat peanuts, use a remote control, and hold a beer at the same time; you just need to get some more practice in me ol' son.

Wow and I always thought that was one integral activity which was why I was so good at it. Hey I have multitasking capability after all

I think that is a good conclusion for this thread!
We all appreciate other peoples passions might as well being carried along with these passions. Just leave space for other peoples passion
Thats what makes Toytown so special, the variety of people and groups and interests.

And so peace descended once again on Walton Mountain.

G'night John Boy.

night maryjane

or was it mary-ellen?

Stop taking the piss

Elizabeth actually

Sorry BL...but I was forced to watch the Waltons as a child and could not let it go.

Shit, if the friggin football is starting again can we have a "girls night" where we can go to a separate bar and rave on all night about how fit the blokes legs are etc?

I am sure there will be somebody keen on organising the next GNO
Why do girls always start GNO's? It's time for the boys to start. I am sure you will have many takers

How about another Big Night Out

Though not Alabamahalle this time