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Availability of British newspapers in Germany

How to get hold of them cheaply

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weejamer
Just a quick question about getting english newspapers here in germany (for me specifically Berlin)..

I have found the in some news agents that I can buy them but they are super expesive (5 day week is 60 euros for a month for the The Independent)

Basically I am studying ecomonics and I must read the news paper every day. But my issue is that I can't spend 60 euro a month on it or buy the online version which is somthing like 14 euro a month but on accessible on the computer. I don't have the time nor the access to get it.

Any Ideas for what I can do?

the list of papers I need is

The Independent
The Guardian
The Times
The Financial Times
The Observer
The Sunday Times

(i don't need them all just one)
Darkknight
Look at the related chat topic: International newspapers delivered on Sundays

Then go to the website that can get you what you want - NewspaperDirect.com
Malt-Teaser
All I can answer for is the equivalent list here in Munich. We have a large selection of international newspapers at the main stations in the "International Presse" shops, but you are correct, these are quite expensive.

Another print which you may like to consider is "The Economist", a weekly magazine which covers the news in relation to what you are studying.

MT
Small Town Boy
QUOTE (Darkknight @ Jan 28 2007, 12:37 pm) *

Talk about answering the wrong question...

Weejamer, I'm not really sure what you're asking - you need to read a newspaper, but don't have the time or the money to do so? Are you aware that most of the newspapers publish their articles free of charge on their websites? Generally speaking, it is only opinion and editorial pieces that count as premium articles. That is certainly the case for the Independent among others.
Darkknight
Weejammer wanted English (or other foreign) newspapers here in Germany. What's wrong with the link I provided? The company mentioned in the first post of that other discussion can provide you with newspapers from all over the world, delivered directly to your door.
Small Town Boy
No he doesn't, read the post before you reply, not just the title. He specifically says he has neither the time nor the money to buy newspapers, so providing a link to a service delivering three trees-worth of newspaper for up to €7 a copy is completely unhelpful.

The correct answer was the one I provided - most of the content is available free of charge on the newspapers' websites.
Darkknight
Ah... but most of the papers from NewspapersDirect are also avail in PDF form. No trees.

Don't want to pay for it? Then yes, read their websites, or go dumpster diving at the airport.
perdido
QUOTE (Darkknight @ Jan 28 2007, 1:22 pm) *
go dumpster diving at the airport.

Never thought about that. Great idea.
str
If the problem is more the money than the time you could also go to one of the bigger libraries (especially those related to the universities) as they will have English newspapers as well. You also have the benefit that they will probably store the last few copies in an easily accessible way so that you can catch up if you have missed a day or two.
Adi
I think everyone is barking up the wrong tree.
He can't afford to subscribe to a hard copy nor take out an internet subscription. He can't read the online editions because he doesn't have access anyway, even if he sticks to the free pages.
Even if he did get an online or hard copy, he apparently doesn't have time to read the papers anyway, so barring time-warping... He's stuffed.

I guess time is, paradoxically, the easiest thing for you to solve. So I agree with 'str' who advises going to the library. But sniffing around the airport is also a good idea... trouble is that most papers are dumped in the departure lounges, which you won't have access to. Maybe talk nicely to one of the airport newsagents and get yesterdays newspapers for free.

For an economics student, worringly short on problem-solving ability wrt time & money.
admetus
QUOTE (weejamer @ Jan 28 2007, 12:34 pm) *
I don't have the time nor the access to get it.

Surely you'll need that time thing to read the paper thing?

Anyway, and for the record, almost all the articles from the print editions of The Guardian and The Observer are available for free (gratis, kostenlos) online (the exception are the odd comment pieces they license from other international papers e.g. NYT - presumably something about only having a licence for reprinting and not for putting it online).

Alternatively, if the suggestions in previous posts on this thread don't sort you out, make friends with a receptionist at some international financial company: many get their daily copy of the European edition of the FT or similar for the reception area, which, usually, ends up in the bin at the end of the day. Instead, maybe you can persuade them to dump them into your grateful hands. If you don't mind getting your daily paper a day late.
Small Town Boy
All students have internet access, if not at home then at college. I guess weejamer is just looking for someone to give him their newspapers once they've finished with them. If he's going to become a successful capitalist, he'll have to learn to say what he wants rather than beat around the bush. The "no time" thing puzzled me as well; maybe he's also looking for someone to read the newspapers for him and pass only the relevant articles onto him, possibly whilst massaging his feet.
Gen
google news could help with the time thing -- get links to just the news on particular topics sent to your email account. Be careful with your keywords though because you can get overwhelmed easily with too much news.

Oh and lots of cafes have newspapers too... it would take time though to figure out which cafe in Berlin would have the right newspapers, and then you might have to wait until someone else is finished reading it before you get it...
weejamer
To small town boy:

What i ment was i dont have the time to sit in front of my computer to read a news paper online.. I spend a few hours a day on the s bahn getting to work and back which is perfect time for me to read a paper. When I get home I have to hit the books stright away. No time to flick through a paper... and also you have to admit that 60 euro is steep for a paper 5 days a week for a month which is why i was asking if anyone knew some other cheeper solution. Like where I can pick up a cheeper paper...
Small Town Boy
The prices charged by the newspapers you listed are fixed, so you won't find them "cheeper". I don't see why you can't spare ten or fifteen minutes to have a look through one of the websites; you don't have to read everything, just flick through the headlines and see what might be relevant. Any relevant articles can be printed off and studied in more detail on the train. Or, as suggested elsewhere, you could try approaching a friendly newsagent and see if they'll do you a deal on the previous day's papers, although since they sell them on a sale-or-return basis, this may not be possible.
weejamer
SORRY FOR ASKING A FREAKING QUESTION!!!

and thanks for making fun of my dyslexia
Small Town Boy
Sorry for trying to help. You wanted cheap and I gave you free.
koala
Check out postage costs from Britain. Might be cheaper to get someone you know in Britain to post them out to you... it'll be a couple of days late. But that shouldn't be a problem.
Small Town Boy
Not a bad idea; if there's no personalised letter in there then you can use the "Printed Papers" rate, which is substantially cheaper. Sending on a weeks' worth of papers at a time could work.
gideon
Errr, go into internet. Find papers you like. Print out articles you like. Read on S-bahn. Basta. Cost and time effective and cheap.

would personaly add the economist to your list. That though is worth buying as the internet version doesn't have much free content.
Jonnyboy
agree - get the Economist and forget about newspapers. If the reason you want the papers is for the business / economics side of life then its a waste of time. The Economist you can pick up a few euros a week and it will take you the full week to read it properly. Problem solved
leky
Buy a laptop, you can then download/copy any relevant articles and read on the train.
woolleym
The Economist it is still relatively expensive per issue if bought from a shop - a year (or more) subscription gives significant discounts (50%-60%), so could be a worthwhile investment (although the one-off cost may break the student budget).
Sidthespid
Here's a link to various online newspaper thingymadingies.

http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/britnews.htm

As for not having the time to sit at the computer to read online articles from the newspaper sites - perhaps you should adjust your priorities. It's a bit daft to say you don't have the time and expect other people to figure it out for you, when you obviously have the time to go on forums and maintain your own blog/website thingymajiggywotsit. ( http://jamesandira.com/weejamer/joomla/ )

Hope the link helps, though I think if you expect a decent career to fall in your lap, you might have to show more a little more initiative rolleyes.gif
Thistle
I cannot believe what I am reading here! All my husband wanted was advice from expats on where to possibly get newspapers a bit cheaper than from regular news agents where you sometimes pay up to three times the amount you would usually pay in the UK. My husband is working ridiculously long hours AND is studying for a degree besides that. Timewise, that means: get up, go to work, get back home at about 7:30 at night and study until the day's over. The only time slot he could possibly have to read anything like a newspaper is in fact the time he's spending on trains to and from work. How can someone who does not know him even dare to talk about adjusting priorities? How dare you assume he is expecting a decent career to just fall in his lap? Do you have the slightest idea what he has done in his life so far and how he has done it, what he is doing to achieve his goals? It makes me sick with rage to read your comments and realize there are even users on here who would go so far as to ridicule his dyslexia!

Whenever anyone would ask advice about anything on a forum or anywhere else, my husband tries to help/advise to the best of his ability. I do not see what should be the problem with doing exactly that without being hurtful, hostile, personal and aggressive. James and I both have come to realize just how very often this kind of thing is happening here and we choose not to frequent this site any longer from now on. A pity, really, as we thought this kind of site would be/could be a very good thing to exist for expats.
Johnny English
Another satisfied customer. Next please?
Keydeck
QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
we choose not to frequent this site any longer

Double flounce, nice.

QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
there are even users on here who would go so far as to ridicule his dyslexia!

Nobody ridiculed his dyslexia. Someone took the piss out of a spelling mistake. Not really a big deal in fairness.

From what I can see you got lots of advice. Where's the problem?
Yeti
If you are going to try and make a career in an area as nebulous as economics but can't handle a TT Monday then good luck to you.
gideon
QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
there are even users on here who would go so far as to ridicule his dyslexia!

Happens all the time, believe me. At least he wasn't voted worst spella eva on Toytown. Like I was. Those who dont suffer from those sort of problems seem to find it funny to take the piss, don't let it get to you. It's the last bastion of "I haven't got anything constructive to say", so I'll put you down on your grammer/spelling etc.

QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
A pity, really, as we thought this kind of site would be/could be a very good thing to exist for expats.

It is, but it takes a bit of getting used to!
Johnny English
Remember the golden rule. Maintain a sense of humour at all times.

Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper?
He ended up selling his soul to Santa.
Small Town Boy
QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
All my husband wanted was advice from expats on where to possibly get newspapers a bit cheaper than from regular news agents

And that's what he got. Lots and lots of suggestions, ranging from newspaper delivery, buying the previous days' paper at a reduced rate, reading the papers online, asking receptionists for old copies, printing the articles and reading them on the train, reading them in cafes, getting them posted from the UK, reading them on a laptop during his journey, buying the Economist instead... How many more suggestions were you expecting? Why are you unable to see all the constructive help and suggestions that your husband has received?

QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
It makes me sick with rage to read your comments and realize there are even users on here who would go so far as to ridicule his dyslexia!

Actually, it was his spelling that I was "ridiculing", because obviously there was no way for me to distinguish between dyslexia and general poor spelling that many English speakers seem to suffer from. I have already apologised to him by PM and am happy to repeat that apology in public. But I think you have some nerve; you received well over a dozen constructive suggestions and all you can do is complain.
Kay
QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
My husband is working ridiculously long hours AND is studying for a degree besides that. Timewise, that means: get up, go to work, get back home at about 7:30 at night and study until the day's over. The only time slot he could possibly have to read anything like a newspaper is in fact the time he's spending on trains to and from work.

Why didn't he say so in his first post? Please go back and read it, you'll see that it doesn't contain much by way of useful information. If he'd given those details at the very beginning it would have been clear why he has little time at his disposal, people wouldn't have suggested on-line sources, etc. etc.
weejamer
Dont care anymore I am sorry for asking!!!
weejamer
Oh and i am unsubcribed from this...
Small Town Boy
Oh no, don't do that! ohmy.gif
perdido
I really dont what to say right now. I think maybe just maybe you should relax...just a tad. As for spelling and stuff like that I mispell all the time who cares? Why are you so... ah forget it you unsubscribed so it matters little. Although I did enjoy STB and DK sparring a little. Ah its always the veterans that throw the best sparring matches.
admetus
Personally, I thought we were being helpful.

Anyway,
QUOTE (Thistle @ Jan 29 2007, 1:39 pm) *
All my husband wanted was advice from expats on where to possibly get newspapers a bit cheaper than from regular news agents where you sometimes pay up to three times the amount you would usually pay in the UK.

The short answer is that you can't.

Newspaper printing and distribution is an expensive and quite often loss-making business. And things are not improving as readers in general are turning away from the printed word and unto the interwebby thing.

As a student of economics, your husband could undoubtedly find no shortage of studies on the business. Examples, examples... The current "strategic review" at the Tribune Group in the States (Chicago Tribune, LA Times) which the industry is taking as code for "we want to get rid of all our newspapers"... The recent sale of Libé in France, or indeed, the never-ending problems at Le Monde... Agora in Poland... Pearson regularly entertaining the idea of dumping the FT... Or even all the rumours about exactly which bits of News International are making money and where the cross-subsidies are hidden... The days of the newspaper baron a la Lord Rothermere are long gone, baby.

It seems there are three main requirements here: a printed paper (to read on the train), a cheap paper (to fit into a student budget) and a timely paper (to have today's paper - with yesterday's news - today). Personally, I think at least one of those will have to go.

Just my 2d. Though since the interested parties have presumably flounced out and stopped reading, I may as well be pissing in the wind.
Janx Spirit
QUOTE (Johnny English @ Jan 29 2007, 1:49 pm) *
Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper?
He ended up selling his soul to Santa.

Dog moves in mysterious ways.
Kay
I think a subscription to The Economist is probbly the best solution. The initial outlay is quite substantial but it's really worth it, especially if you get the 3-year subscription. The only thing that annoys me is that since Germans are so ecologically minded there is no plastic wrapping, so by the time the magazine is delivered either the cover is ripped to bits or the whole thing is soggy if it's raining or snowing. dry.gif
arshoo
tbh, TT is like the real world, people will say what ever they want to. have a bit of humor, a little thick skin and the ability to sift out important information amidst loads of dribble. a job economists should be good at (my gradutaion subject was eco). and you unsubscribing...well dunno if it helps you...why should you? who will be better off? do you think some of the members here you dont like care? its like saying that I want to leave berlin as some idiots made fun of me. berlin and TT have a lot more members than the ones you want to ignore, innit?
Sidthespid
Flipperty jibbit! Someone certainly got their knickers in a twist. rolleyes.gif

I merely pointed out the obvious. Someone says they have no time for something that only takes a few minutes and yet they maintain a blog. It occurred to me as being a little odd, that's all. Well, buggery boo me for making an observation. blink.gif

I too was once a drama queen, but then I discovered objectivity biscuits and now my life is unhindered by sickening rages. One a day, taken with a pinch of salt and a liberal splash of intelligence often does the trick. When that doesn't work, I recommend unwinding by the age old custom of reading a newspaper. *grin*

Sheesh, there are many things in this life that might dunk me into a torrent of sickening rage, but another person's opinion isn't one of them.
polka-dot-speedo
Why is an anglophone-student (I presume) doing a degree in economics about english-market economy, having to read mostly English papers, doing his degree in Berlin? Wouldn't it be easier to do it in the UK?
Johnny English
I can thing of plenty of things that would be easier in the UK - but everyone is here for different reasons! Maybe the wife has a real job, and as a bumming student he has to go with the cash?

(damn lucky Elvis has officially left the building or we might have had a tiff over the above comment).
perdido
I am petitioning bob to let me have weejamer log-in as my second account. I just like the name weejamer.
polka-dot-speedo
Maybe huh? maybe...
gooner_gal
Where is weejammer anyway? If he were in Berlin anywhere near Graeferstraße/Dieffenbachstraße he could have asked one of the bars for their copy of the Guardian. He'd have to fight me for it though!!! too late now though! rolleyes.gif
Showem
My money is on weejammer lurking, taking the good advice and not having to say thank you for it.
Gen
perdido -- register weejammer and see if anyone notices the difference.
Adi
He's not going to say thank you because he has no time... Remember? rolleyes.gif
Johnny English
But he might say "Yhank Tou".
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