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@mb..i havent read this thread yet but just scrolled through, i think slutyness is a state of mind that doesnt actually exist, outside of select mentalities. rather like imaginary friends. or something to that effect.

That's what I thought too.

as you can see from my previous post you said that sluttiness can grouped together with narcistic and attention deficiency disorder, implying the causes of sluttiness are these or similar psychological problems.

That makes 3

Well I can most certainly confirm that! All the slutty men I have met have had narcistic qualities and a big attention deficiency disorder. Disgusting, the whole lot of them.

FFS! How many times do I have to quote you. YOU DID WRITE IT. YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON TO WRITE IT.

well, your 'definition i quoted. it was something along: sluttyness is havening control over your own sexuality.
That is a fallacy, as having that control is very much compatible with not fucking at all, which, by any defintion, isnt exactly slutty.


yep, but if you consistently choose NOT to, chances are that no one will call you slutty.

and here is number 4..as I already said, there is no such thing as real "sluttyness" in a previous post. *yawn*
I am watching Nip/Tuck right now...so much more interesting but insane...kind of like imaginary friends

A-so. I am beginning to catch on. You are talking about WOMEN! Women who do as men are sluts these days I see.

I don't know what's funnier, your view on what a slut is or the fact you don't seem to have a clue what you're doing or saying.

You do realise you just quoted yourself saying it!! Little clue - your name is on the quote

So, tell me, why do you think there is an additional S at the end of disorder? and why did i refer to 'attention deficit' as a GROUP of disorders?
and while were at it, how would you interpret the ;p at the end?

Away from the semantics and back to the point.

Mr Fixit: your definition of the term "sluttiness" sounds very much like the clinical definition of Hypersexuality. "Slut" or "Slutiness" is a loaded word used to throw moral judjement on the person it used to describe. "Hypersexuality" is a clinical term and non-judgemental. All your posts, despite claiming otherwise, are loaded with jusgdments on the morals and healthiness of "sluttiness".

I thought that would be lesbians (as men ususally do women!), damn tis indeed a new world now. Must get upto date.

but only narrow minded planks would anyway, and they don't count, they have a disorder

No it's not. I'm not talking about being whether one can control their sexual urges or not. Anyone (save for nymphomaniacs) can control their sexual urges, I'm sure you''ll find that even people who are sexually less discriminating can and do control their sexual urges.

Control as I am referring to here and as I've already said is not letting someone or something (for example a religion) pressure you into having sex and also not letting someone or something pressure you into not having sex

the S was because you wrote "narcistic and attention deficit disorders". They are two separate disorders not one, hence the S placed correctly at the end. Now, again, after havng been proved wrong (yet again) you are trying to re-write what you actually wrote. Sorry, it don't work like that. Stand by what you wrote or admit you were wrong but don't try and weedle out by attemting to say you meant something else.

interpret a smiley? twat.

Okay, well, apart from my impression on how the term was used when i entered the discussion (which still stands btw), I just looked it up and funnily enough wikipedia uses almost my words:
"Slut is a pejorative term for a person (usually female)who is more sexually promiscuous than is deemed socially acceptable."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut

slut Pronunciation (slt)
n.
1.
a. A woman considered sexually promiscuous.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slut

And again i'd like to point out that i acknowledged the possibility of other interpretations well before it became all mudwrestling ... Only to be threatened with physical abuse ...

Since we're inventing new mental disorders, I've got a few I'd like to coin.

"refusestoadmitwhenhe'swrongitis"

I am not re-writing anything. I am merely pointing out - for the tenth time - that i did not mean that promiscuity was caused by ADHS. Now, i realise thats a shocker. But even if i go back and re-read it and assume that the writer is exceptionally dumb, i still do not find your interpretation of my words the most obvious, to say the least.

wrong wrong wrong. You can only be perceived as a slut, you cannot actually be a slut. It's best illustrated by the joke ,

"Whats the difference between a slut and a whore?"
"A whore will root anyone, a slut will root anyone except you"

Ok, what was the real discussion again? Something about fat italian chicks oder?

Oh for crying out loud - Do you really believe i was trying to say that ADHS was the reason for promiscuity ?

Altho i do have a hard time to admit when i am wrong, i'll give you that. Its just that i am not in this case, because i never made the statement you refute.

no it doesn't. Stop being thick headed. You were proved wrong. Be adult about it and admit it.


It is exactly because the term "slut" is a term loaded with judgement against women that ER used that phrase about women being in control. It is no longer acceptable for the likes of you to pass judgement on what it deemed socially acceptable, healthy or a psychological disorder. If a woman chooses to have sex with many partners BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO, it should not be judged or deemed sick, it should be deemed normal and a free choice, jus as men have the choice to chose as many or as few partners as they wish.

dont forget PruDitis, i hear it has serious mental side effects. narrows the brain and whatnot.

ps: yes im being childish but my slutty imaginary friend is making me do it. i think she needs to get herself some. more that is. get herself some more.

@bucket06. exactly you cant actually *be* an imaginary friend either, you can only perceive one.

Well, that doesnt really go well with the fact that i've affectionatly called a certain young lady a slut (Schlampe)*while* she was rooting me. Maybe a thousand times or more. So obviously there must be other possible definitions

No, other than my questioning you on it once and you replying that hasn't been the focus of this discussion.

It's everything else you won't open your mind to that I take issue with.

is this the fifth time i have quoted this post? I lose count. By saying that sluttiness should be grouped with the narcistic and attention defecit disorders you are saying that the root causes of it are psychological problems similar to ADD. So yes, you did say it, or imply it.

Besides, i never actually called you on saying that ADD was the root cause of sluttiness, so not sure where you go that from. I simply called you on your use and definition of ADD.

If you'd have followed the discussion then it would have occured to you that indeed i was using the term genderless. And if you want me to admit that i was proved wrong, quote what i said and how i was proved wrong. I seem to have missed that part. Are you trying to say that my defintion of slut is wrong? that my perceived use of the term when i entered the discussion is wrong? that it is wrong when i think it is not healthy to ones psyche when one fucks everything that moves? please be more specific.

Perhaps this is simply a language issue. We really are getting nowhere.

If you were using it "genderless", as you say, then your perceived use of the term was wrong, yes, because the word "slut" in English is used to refer to a woman.

I have an imaginary friend too, but it's a guy named Coolio and he likes to roll one, turn on the boob tube and violently consume a pint of Ben and Jerry's...oh no...wait...that was me... God it gets so bright in here!!! Hey, does anyone else smell smoke? I think Mr. Fixit's ass is on fire

Okay, let me reformat that for you.


the first was my on.the-fly definition of sluttiness.
the second was meant as a joke mainly, hinting that i think that a common cause for 'sluttyness' aka promiscuity is a perceived deficit in *external* attention. Yes, there are instances when it is pathological. No, i didnt seriously mean to say that promiscuity is a contagious pathological disease. What is wrong with me or you that you the distinction between a deliberate and obvious exaggeration to drive a point home is taken all serious?

And then, i never defined ADD in this thread.

ah I see, it actually READ that way, at least the pathological bit, to me but then again im not fluent in ;p, obviously :s.

Yeah, stereotyping, one of my favourites... let me just assure you that i am nowhere near prude, I bet i could tell you stories of my life that'd make you blush like a catholic schoolgirl

I am waiting for Arshoo to say something about his "imagination"..but it's a week night and not late enough..so...

you sir, are a slut. perhaps you should get yourself down to the doctor for a clinical grouping. they probably have pills and a chastity belt for that sort of thing.

oOoOoO

It looks exciting in here.

Brb just going read the rest of the thread

true, not enough alcohol in me as yet

so you are saying that attention deficit disorder is a perceived lack of external attention? I thought we already decided that you were talking bullshit. Shall i quote the definition of ADD again for you?

Well, folks...I better head off to bed before my pot-smoking, imaginary friend tries to hit on JMLs slutty buddy...Good night all, goodnight John boy, goodnight JML's friend.

... sooo ... we had that sorted ...

well I suppose that would depend on what your definition of a prude is. Whole new can of worms to open I suppose

My slutty friend left. I think Arshoo's gone off to bitch slap his imagination friend. Im having a threesome with Ben and Jerry right now. Oprah's on, I think she's watching me. Shocking I tell you shocking. Dont judge me. Later peeps! Fight the good fight etc etc.

The ER/OG double team are going to bed.

Night all.

I got lost at Moby


no idea what those pictures are

You dont seem to be acle to get your mind off that, can you? You argue along this line: Mr Fixit said (promiscuity=ADD) & (promiscuity=lack of external attention) therefore (ADD=lack of external attention).

Now, considering that by now you have reason to suspect that i wouldnt define ADD as a lack of *external* attention, what does that tell you about the other two statements?

Right: One of them is wrong. Guess what, its the first. And that is the one i didnt say in the first place. This is not entertaining. My ADD kicks in. Good Night.

Edit: If anyone wants to read up on what was actually said, it starts near the bottom of page 6

The Gossip's Beth Ditto and the NME this week might disagree.

I'd hit that.

It's not a candle I'd want to have close to her , in any case I don't just look at the face , I look at the whole package , preferably internal organs included.

Just to watch the ripples for the next five minutes?

woof.