The strange case of Jeremiah Duggan

I came across this rather interesting report, interesting as it will give the consipiracy theorists plenty to talk about.

DW World: German court considers investigation into student death.

It appears that the German police wish to list Jeremiah Duggan's death as suicide by running into traffic but his parents and a former Scotland Yard chief that investigated have serious doubts over this theory. It appears that the German courts now have their suspicions about his death too.

Personally, my question would be "what on earth do the German authorities wish to cover up?"

Does anyone else know anything about this case?

See also: justiceforjeremiah.com

The article below gives a little more detail on the cult and its leader. It all seems a little odd to me.

No Joke (washingtonpost.com)

Very sad story.

Here is an interesting excerpt...anyone ever heard of this group?


A decade ago a 2nd tier "friend" brought me to what was supposed to be a Tony Robbins kinda inspiring your life seminar. Turned out to be one of those wacky cult recruiter events (can't even remember the name of the group). I was defo leaving at the break, when descended upon by several persons who attempted to tell me how fucked up my life was, and how I was in such denial I didn't even know it. Now f-up my life might have been...but luckily I was having nothing with some stranger telling me who I was and what I was about...got on my nerves and NYer temper. To me it was laughable and painfully obvious how these people try to Fck with you psychologically, but they are professional at what they do. I can totally see those with low self esteem or a need to belong to a group or a cause totally buying into their rap. They were a truely scary bunch. The "friend" who I ceased to see after that little event was emeshed for over 2 years before getting out. It was a bad time for her and will cost her many years in therapy bills and many friends.

That LaRouche guy and his wife Zapp are raving lunatics and found a new political party for every election. Really bad news.

I was under the impression the group was very far right and also antisemitic which makes it bizarre that a good little English Jewish boy would go over to join them.

I dont think it is right wing but it does have one trait that all "cults" have. The leaders seem to extract lots of cash, live in splendid homes, drive the best cars etc etc whilst the "followers" are, financially" stripped bare.

The nearest thing to a "cult" that I came close to was the "Findhorn Foundation", which are not a cult at all

(Though during an "interview" I was once asked if I was a member of the Scientologists which was embarrasing as I had never heard of them)

It does seem strange that he died in such a manner after making a disturbing phone-call to his parents but I do not know what the police would gain by "covering up" the reasons for his death

Get back quicker to their Leberkässemmels if they book it as an open and shut suicde case.

I don't think he knew they were anti-semitic until he got there, and they didn't realise he was Jewish until he told them.


They didn't have to do a complex international investigation into his death?

Edit: beaten by MonksTown.

Well, that could be true if you looked at it really cynically but conspiracy theorist might look at it as having a German (the cults leaders wife is German I think) holding meetings involving anti-semetic agendas that ended up with a dead Jewish chap on "their turf" would be embarrasing to say the least.

Still, they seem to be more a conspiracy theory based cult that, naturally, involves giving loads of money to the leaders

LaRouche is of the Liberitarian Party, and is currently serving time in prison. Where he was during the campaign, if memory serves.

Are you sure they wern't Scientologists? Thats exactly what hapenned me in my contact with Scientologists

I thought LaRouche got out of prison in 1994? His felony conviction disbars him from voting in his home state and is the reason the Democrats give for not allowing him to run for the Democrat ticket.

His views and the views of his followers internationally as publicly stated are pretty close to many of those espoused by German National Socialism, though he does not call it that. But bizarelly, the roots of his movement are on the far left Trostskyist fringes. This has led some people to allege that his aims are far left though they mascarade as far right.

One bizarre thing is that he was brought up in a Quaker family and is renowned as being just about the only member of an English style Quaker meeting to actually be 'expelled' in recent years. He ran for many years a breakaway Quaker meeting in his hometown that is not recognised by any of the Yearly meetings in the USA. Needless to say his views are the absolute antithesis of the views of most Quakers.

No Mad Axe...defo not scientologists...unless they go under other names at times to recruit. Either way, I was getting the hell away from them. I'll stick to the NY tradition of years of therapy to deal with all our dysfunctional parent issues

But this kid looked so sweet and his heart seemed to be in the right place in simply trying to take a stand against the war...tragic

I never heard of the Schiller Institute. I know a lot of left wingers on the west coast but never heard of these guys. Curious now. Ill have to ask friends of they ever heard of them. It is not unheard of to be a member of multigroups which is actually the norm. Ill ask around the next time I am talking to one of those kats if I remember. Portland Indy media might actually have something or laughing horse come to think of it. They have credible groups on there as well as a few nutters.

He now lives in Germany.

No different than several others, LaRouche has LaRouche's best interests in center. He is a 'bigot and racist cult leader', although it comes to wealth-money; much as Cheney's et al cynicism does to petrol dollars and war contracts, money. 'Party' BüSo with the young kid on the poster (blanketed Berlin), is the most recent Entrée. However, take a look at http://www.politicalresources.net/germany.htm, and you can see no one takes them seriously.

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It just rocks my ship when I see idiots continuing to get involved in parasitic organizations when the organizations haven't changed much. Hello? Who's clueless?

I think it is rather harsh to call Jeremy an idiot. He was obviously an idealistic young man, and at that age, passion for causes can trump good sense. I was passionately involved with Amnesty International and Greenpeace at that age, and also with a radical fringe group that split off from AI called PTP. I didn't realize for several months that PTP was a left-wing nutjob group, and at 20 years old, I was pretty blinded by my idealism and my naivete that any human rights organization must be out to do good.

If I remember reading the article correctly, young Jeremy did ask his mom to research LaRouche on the internet, but because she misspelled the name, she didn't find anything worrisome. And I am sure she will regret that for the rest of her life.

Amnesty International is a bit of a wibbly wobbly middle of the road Grauniad reader thing though innit.

No, and no. He's been out for 12 years and he's not a Libertarian. He keeps running for the Democratic nomination. He has his own screwball group of adherents who are almost religious in their support of him. What he has is more or less a cult under the guise of a political group.

Hence the reason many call his group religious, in that some ideas they support are diametrically opposed to others. Any attempts to reason with a LaRouchie results in th same sort of run-around you get when discussing anything with any "true believer".

Avoid like the plague of thieving, dishonest, disingenuous, misguided miscreants that they are.

woof.

From today's Observer: New evidence shows 'suicide' student was beaten to death

Great article, thanks for this.

Good for the Mom for continuing the pressure in this tragic story.

I really wonder why the German police were so quick to call this a suicide and so reluctant to be cooperative. Usually Germany seems quite firm with cults and far right political groups, so why the difference in this known anti-semetic cult/political group?

I hope this helps bring down the institute.

If he was already dead, why did those three drivers claim to have hit him with their cars? The first one clipped him with the mirror, the second got him on the windshield, and then the third ran over him. So unless these three people are lying and just saying they ran over a guy on the road (?), he was still alive when he got on the road. And if you have your hands raised and smack into a windshield, that probably leaves the same kind of damage on the body as being beaten with a blunt object and trying to defend yourself.

That said, the ingested blood does indicate that he was bleeding before he died. And to me it seems clear that he was being tortured and maltreated, and being held against his will. It´s definitely not suicide. He was trying to get away. Those people were holding him hostage, withholding his passport, breaking him down --- I don´t know what the legal term for it is, but even if he ran onto the road to try to get away from them, they are responsible for his death.

Poor, poor guy. Sweet and innocent, just thinking he was going to protest against the war.

Makes me grateful that I am jaded. I am sure I´ve been approached several times by people who´d like to draw me into something creepy (I think I have an innocent air) -- but those people just make the hair on the back of my neck stand on end...

Uh, cause the guy was beat senseless then led/pushed/stumbled out into traffic? Mob rules, typical group behaviour of ideologs.

There is no way the drivers who hit him, would also remember if he was already internally injured... bruises which would not show below clothing, the trauma of seeing or participating in the car accident. It's very difficult to recall details, as trauma does this to the brain, memory shutdown.

This is why the scientific inquest going on, is so important.

s2s2 -- they were claiming he was already DEAD before he got on the road, not just beaten and disoriented.

hi all, sorry to misuse the forum, i am not actually living in germany i am a brit living in the uk, however i was a friend of jerrys. and i really wanted tio say that me, and all of jerrys friends and family appreciate the intrest that your taking in the case. even if it is just speculation or chitter-chatter. it all helps bring the case to public concousness (if thats how you spell it).
jerry was a fantastic guy, and was idealistic, but was not stupid, he had no idea of the kind of people he was getting involved in and it got him killed.

the injurys he sustained were not those of a person hit by a car, the injurys and defence wounds he sustained were those of a person who was beaten to death. the cars that supposedly hit him had to traces of blood hair or skin on them either. as to why the german authoritys would cover it up is all speculation but in my opinion the chiller institue would probably carry a lot of weight in a smaller town like wiesbaden, and the incompitence of the initial investigation is not something that they would want publicised.

again thanks for caring, and please visit www.justiceforjeremiah.com for more information and to express your support.

thanks

dave

just read today on the beeb that campaigners want ministers to lobby the German government to reopen the case

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BBC News