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"300" - a historical Greek fantasy movie

Released in Germany on 22.Mar.2007

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Punchbear
Which is weird? Thoroughly confusticated. Fuck agendas, enjoy the spectacle, the Spartans digging their feet into the sand and then shunting forwards ensemble reminisces of Saving Private Ryan and the sheer pushfeck bravura of fighting for what needs to be done. Ach we're all little boys at the end of the day.
Fairfax71
QUOTE (Pat Bateman @ Apr 2 2007, 12:21 am) *
Its definetly a thoroughly fascist film.

Ya. A movie about Sparta vs. Persia is a bit like a movie about Stalinist Russia vs. Nazi Germany. It's hard to really cheer for either side, ya know? The only nice bit is that one side is allied with the Real Good Guys™ (Athens or US/UK, respectively) but I from what I gather reading about it, 300 is sort of like a movie about Stalingrad where Churchill and Roosevelt are portrayed as weak cowardly homosexual ninnies and Stalin's hung like a horse.

And just in time for a crisis with the modern Persia, too! Hey hey!

I guess I'm torn about it in the same way I'm torn about Riefenstahl. I can appreciate the visuals but abhor the politics. I just hope the same applies for everyone else, knowwhatImean?

(That PG version of 300 has me in tears, though. FROSTING!)

Cheers,

Fairfax71
Marshbot
I get bored when movies have too much battle and too little plot/dialogue/character development.. there's only so many ways you can portray the adrenalin and violence of men trying to kill each other.
Or so I thought.
What a treat... that was pure cinematographorn, I loved it. I've found that most animated/CG movies capture human emotions, facial cues and quirks better than real-life actors do and this one has the perfect mix of both. The camera effects are beautiful, gorgeous lighting and shading, the violence is stunning rather than sickening and it seemed there was a visual feast in almost every scene. Some brilliant lines and I liked the narration with attention to detail too.
Definitely a keeper, I'm making room on my shelf for it already.
Pat Bateman
New title :
300 - Fascism never looked this good.
thefirelane
I like the Daily show "New Title":

300 a.k.a 1800 abs smile.gif
Elfenstar
QUOTE (Marshbot @ Apr 2 2007, 10:20 am) *
...I've found that most animated/CG movies capture human emotions, facial cues and quirks better than real-life actors do and this one has the perfect mix of both.
oh, they had faces? i was distracted by other things on the actors. oooh. abs.

QUOTE (thefirelane @ Apr 2 2007, 11:25 am) *
I like the Daily show "New Title": 300 a.k.a 1800 abs smile.gif
yes! yes! yes!

i really loved the cinematography, the slow-down-speed-up style in the fight scenes, the choreography of the spartan soldiers as they pushed and fought the enemy. visually it was stunning. ah, I'm a simple girl and i do love these kinds of surrealistic/stylish films. oh and those abs...erm, yes the dialouge was a bit thin, but i liked the narration by "faramir" from LOTR. i forgot how big his nose was!
Elfenstar
i'm sorry, i have to add a few of the things i found when i googled "gerard butler abs" biggrin.gif :

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Gerald Butler is an incredible specimen of manhood in this flick heavy with PG-rated beefcake. I found my eyes drawn to Butler's abs, pecs, arms, legs and pretty much everything else whenever he was on screen. Even his leather pouch over his package looked impressive. His relatively quick ass shot comes early in the film when he's standing outside his bedroom overlooking the horizon. It's so hot. He goes into the bedroom to seduce his wife and gives us a good look at his naked leg and hip, although frontal is safely hidden from view. Oh well I wasn't expecting that much icing on this beefcake. Very impressive.


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Butler went through excessive training to gain muscles, and we can tell. Not only from his busted pecks or rippling abs, but we can tell by his juicy, meaty ass. If you thought a red cape and a loincloth on this man was hot enough, wait for this scene. Butler stands stark nude for a good 10 seconds until the camera cuts to him from the waist up (which is delicious, nonetheless.) The rest of the scene resumes to be arousing; first, sitting on the edge of the bed where his penis is deliberately lit in the dark, teasing us endlessly. Finally, Butler and co-star Lena Headey perform sexual intercourse, confirming ourselves that we would do anything to be Headey at this moment. What rates this scene 3 stars rather than 4 is that we don't get to see his penis. Unfortunetly.
Kazalphaville
Going to see this tonight in English at Kinopolis in Bonn.
sharpe
QUOTE (Elfenstar @ Apr 4 2007, 12:19 pm) *
i'm sorry, i have to add a few of the things i found when i googled "gerard butler abs" :

you can find more info in the March issue of Men's Health magazine, how he works out, what he eats etc... It also mentions that his character originally planned to be slimer but he wanted to be bigger.
Elfenstar
anyone got back copies? anyone? i'm glad he chose the work out he did smile.gif
Punchbear
You can actually watch it streamed online, scarily enough, but I think that's doing the sheer spectacle a great disservice.

Plus they re-confirm who actually invented gayness: "The Athenians are philosophers and boy lovers!" Which is awesome.
Jules Winnfield
Spartans were pretty tough, but I think that they didn't mind a little hanky-panky among the lads themselves...
Punchbear
You lie, Spartans just needed to keep each other warm is all. Untruth.
thefirelane
Yeah,
I remember reading that the Spartan soldiers were all in homosexual relationships with eachother. Living in the barracks and only sneaking away to spend time with the wife for procreative purposes

From wikipedia:

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Poor knowledge on Spartan traditions is the result of Sparta's secrecy. Most modern theories are based on assumptions derived from ancient sources and parallels drawn between Sparta and contemporary Dorian Greek societies such as Crete. Some scholars assume that the custom of pederasty paralleled the mentoring relations between Spartan males and adolescent boys, common in Dorian societies. Some of the ancient scholars seem to have supported an opposing view: Xenophon writes that Lycurgus efficiently managed to cultivate chaste pederasty in the Spartan society.[14] This however tends to be viewed as an attempt of praise towards Sparta, and not necessarily as a sincere remark. Aristotle also wrote that Sparta belonged to the type of military society that was based on heterosexual relationship, unlike other Greek states of his time. However, an examination of the historical details reveals that "references to particular homosexual attachments of Spartans are conspicuous even by Greek standards".[14] Cicero furthermore asserts that, "The Lacedaemonians, while they permit all things except outrage (hubris, referring here to homosexual coitus) in the love of youths, certainly distinguish the forbidden by a thin wall of partition from the sanctioned, for they allow embraces and a common couch to lovers.'[15] In antiquity it was thought that a youth was expected to find himself an older lover, and that pederasty, a social practice common throughout most of Greece, was especially so in Sparta, where the ephors fined any eligible man who did not have chaste relationships with youths.[16]
Punchbear
No, no, no, it's wikipedia so it can't be true. Lies, lies all lies they liked ladies nahahnananananananananananananananananana I'm not listening. They weren't kiddyfiddlers with spears. Nananananananananana...not listening.
FuzzyTony
It's Raining 300 Men


Spartans: Harooh! Harooh! Harooh!
Punchbear
That shouldn't be half as funny as it is. Or it's much funnier than it should be. Although, "This is delicious." "This is Caketown!" remain unbeatable.
FuzzyTony
There are so many bad parodies of 300 now I don't know what to say.

Here's another one that is so bad it's actually funny. cool.gif

Walking Taco's Dubbs - 300 - The Trailer Sequel

Spartans: Aargh! Ouch!
Leonidas: Mumble mumble mumble...
Horses: Gallop! Gallop! Gallop!
the Boy From Bozlem
Tonight we dine in Hull
Punchbear
Kazalphaville
Was visually stunning but not my cup of tea.
Punchbear
Not your cup of Sparta then. Hoh well, lads in trunks with spears can't be keeping every punter ginging at the narsh.
Kazalphaville
Thought the Xerxes guy was pretty cool though.

And the immortal lines:

"Ahhhh! My arm!"
"It's not yours anymore."
oomcha
"Visually stunning." - Well said, Kazalphaville.

If it hadn't been edited to death, I would have left. Plus I kept laughing at parts no one else found funny... like the hunchback's ridiculous-looking, monstrous eye, and the fact that he had muscles.
Punchbear
QUOTE (Kazalphaville @ Apr 8 2007, 1:14 pm) *
Thought the Xerxes guy was pretty cool though.

The guy who played Xerxes was recently in Lost as well, but got buried alive. I did not recognise him, at all.
tuca
His name is Rodrigo Santoro, a brazilian fella. He was also in Love Actually and Charlie's Angels 2...he seems to like to show off his torso. Mind you, a few years ago he did a pretty good job as a transvestite in "Carandiru", movie about a Brazilian prison.
mollym
seen it, I liked it ... then again lots of bare chested men swinging swords, what isn't there to like about that ...

ooppss ohmy.gif
zidane
great film loved it this very afternoon.
AlexisChristensenMD
I had absolutely no interest in this film, we see enough killing and bloodshed on our evening newscasts. FYI Ancient Greeks were child molesters.
Keydeck
The bastards!

FYI the killing and bloodshed in 300 was way cooler than anything I've seen on the evening news. That said, I only really look at CNN so maybe I'm missing out.
Lifeisabuffet
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 16 2007, 2:35 pm) *
I had absolutely no interest in this film, we see enough killing and bloodshed on our evening newscasts. FYI Ancient Greeks were child molesters.

I think it was considered normal in all cultures during that time to have a relationship to a teenage girl or a teenage boy. So a 50-60 year old guy would go marry or do something with a teenage child. Luckily now it's considered child molestation worldwide.
arshoo
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 16 2007, 2:35 pm) *
I had absolutely no interest in this film, we see enough killing and bloodshed on our evening newscasts. FYI Ancient Greeks were child molesters.

obviously not a gamer rolleyes.gif

SPARTANS...go get'em
Punchbear
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 16 2007, 2:35 pm) *
I had absolutely no interest in this film, we see enough killing and bloodshed on our evening newscasts.

Howcome "had"? Did you see it by accident? You know those dark places with people sitting around staring at a wall, are where movies be?

QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 16 2007, 2:35 pm) *
FYI Ancient Greeks were child molesters.

And the Persians were all Ninja Slavedwarves. To awesome or not to awesome?
arshoo
QUOTE (Punchbear @ Apr 16 2007, 2:53 pm) *
And the Persians were all Ninja Slavedwarves. To awesome or not to awesome?

nah...the Immortals were all shicky mickey Ninja's...the japs picked it up from there!
Punchbear
But we put their name to the test.
arshoo
SPARTANS...push! biggrin.gif
AlexisChristensenMD
Why do Anglos like Gerald Butler and Russell Crowe portray Greeks and Romans??? Most real life Greeks and Italians are often dark complexioned. Greek men have large male organs smile.gif, Italian and Greek men are the only European men I would have sex with, other than that I went for black and I will never go back. Australian Croatian Eric Bana is an exception but he could pass for Greek or Italian.
PeterC
For some reason, I thought of beer every time Leonidas gave one of his pep talks.
Pat Bateman
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 20 2007, 6:07 pm) *
Why do Anglos like Gerald Butler and Russell Crowe portray Greeks and Romans??? Most real life Greeks and Italians are often dark complexioned. Greek men have large male organs , Italian and Greek men are the only European men I would have sex with, other than that I went for black and I will never go back. Australian Croatian Eric Bana is an exception but he could pass for Greek or Italian.

Not wanting t hijack the thread, but are you saying you choose your partners for the size of their organs?
Fairfax71
It's not like men don't choose their partners for the size of certain of their organs. smile.gif

Cheers,

Fairfax71
Keydeck
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 20 2007, 5:07 pm) *
Why do Anglos like Gerald Butler and Russell Crowe portray Greeks and Romans???

Because, eh, they are big name Hollywood actors and neither Christos Philipoplopolus nor Benito Fettucini would really draw in the punters. Capice?
Moonboot
phwooooooooar, how much eye-candy was there in the film! all my popcorn got soggy!
Punchbear
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 20 2007, 6:07 pm) *
Why do Anglos like Gerald Butler and Russell Crowe portray Greeks and Romans??? Most real life Greeks and Italians are often dark complexioned. Greek men have large male organs , Italian and Greek men are the only European men I would have sex with, other than that I went for black and I will never go back. Australian Croatian Eric Bana is an exception but he could pass for Greek or Italian.

May I be the first to congratulate you on your weirdness.
Kay
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 20 2007, 6:07 pm) *
Greek men have large male organs , Italian and Greek men are the only European men I would have sex with (...). Australian Croatian Eric Bana is an exception but he could pass for Greek or Italian.

So you've already checked the size of his organ?
Punchbear


THIS IS AN ORRGGAAAAANN!!!
Jenny L
I just saw this today and loved it. wub.gif It was beautifully filmed- even though the fight scenes were bloody, they weren't grotesque. The actors were easy on the eyes. It was a fantastic movie.

My favorite line was when Lena Heady said, "This will not be quick, you will not enjoy this, and I am not your Queen!" I am so going to start using that one at work (though I might have to substitute the word "queen" with the word "bitch".
AlexisChristensenMD
Butler isn't a real Greek, he just plays one on TV. Seriously, there are some hot men in Greece, I love Croatians as well, especially Eric Bana.
bern
QUOTE (AlexisChristensenMD @ Apr 22 2007, 12:33 pm) *
Seriously, there are some hot men in Greece.

Perhaps, but my understanding is that they are pretty damned short. A friend of mine, who tops out somewhere around 5'2", recently went to Athens and she swears she was taller than most folks there...
Punchbear
Yes, but did she go to SPAAARRRTTTAAAAA? They may be bigger there. Don't know if they still toss the weak infants off a cliff. If they do, chances are they're a bit taller. A little bit. Anyway, Athenians are all philosophers and boylovers. Didn't Gerald Butler say as much?
perdido
I finally saw it tonight well because I was bored and the only thing I can say is that its its crazy crazy crazy...
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