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PES
Apple filed for patents for their long rumored new phone. Should be hot... wait and see...

QUOTE (Businessweek)
Apple Computer Inc. has filed for a patent that suggests plans for a wireless phone that combines the company's hugely successful iPod MP3 music player and a cellular telephone may be in the works, according to an application with the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office.
PES
Analyst sees big market gains for Apple
It could have more than 8% of the global PC market by 2016

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December 01, 2006 (Macworld UK) -- Apple may secure more than 8% of the global PC market by 2016, according to the analysts at Needham & Co.
Analyst Charles Wolf has upped his target price on the company's stock from $90 to $115 per share, citing "stronger than anticipated growth in Mac shipments" in recent quarters.
Wolf added that the new valuation actually excludes any extra revenue and income that could be generated by "yet-to-be-announced products, such as an iPhone" -- suggesting Apple's fortunes next year could be even better than now seems likely.
The new valuation does take into account two successive quarters of strong Mac sales and tremendous sales of the iPod shuffle.
PES
The iPhone is launched ... by Linksys, not Apple dry.gif

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Nancy Gohring, IDG News Service - MacCentral Mon Dec 18, 11:55 AM ET

The iPhone has arrived, but not from Apple.

Linksys, a division of Cisco Systems, introduced two VOIP (voice over Internet Protocol) handsets adding to five others the company already offers. The group of phones is now part of a Linksys family of products called iPhone.

The Linksys iPhones aren’t quite what some people may have been expecting. Apple is rumored to be working on a combined cell phone and digital music player and the mythical device has been dubbed the iPhone, after the popular iPod digital music player, by Apple enthusiasts.
PES
Apple expected to unveil cell phone or TV set-top box this week at Macworld show
AP: SAN FRANCISCO: Technophiles are eagerly waiting to learn whether the king of digital music can colonize an entirely new category of consumer electronics.

Steve Jobs, chief executive of Apple Computer Inc., is expected to launch at least one revolutionary product Tuesday at the Macworld Conference & Expo in San Francisco. Speculation has focused mainly on an Apple-branded cellular phone and a set-top box that allows people to send video from their computers to their televisions.


IHT:
War for the '4th screen'

"Apple is about to touch off a nuclear war," said Paul Mercer, a software designer and president of Iventor, a designer of software for hand-helds based in Palo Alto, California. "The Nokias and the Motorolas will have to respond."
jml
Yeah I read a little blurb about the Apple iTV in Esquire Magazine. Looks pretty cool. smile.gif
Tim
QUOTE
You can take a movie, download it to a computer, put it on your iPod. But what about that big flat screen TV you just bought last weekend? You need a box to drive that big screen TV. How's the box going to talk to the computer? Do I want to string cables throughout my house? So I'm going to talk to it using wireless network, to get the content from the computer to the box, from the box to the TV.[1]

What, you are telling me that there are still people out there who have both a TV AND a computer? Jeez, and I thought it was 2007...
Dostoyevsky
The iPhone is coming. It's using OS X and has just one button.

See http://www.macrumorslive.com/ for pictures.
Wheel
Jeez, if this thing is even half as impressive as it sounds it's going to really shake up the mobile phone market.
PES
Macworld Expo: Jobs Unveils the iPhone
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"This is a day I've been looking forward to for two and a half years," said Jobs. "Every once in a while a revolutionary product comes along that changes everything."

In 1984, said Jobs, Apple introduced the Macintosh, and changed the computer industry. In 2001, Apple introduced the iPod, and changed the entire music industry.

"Well, today, we're introducing three revolutionary products of this class," said Jobs. "The first one is a widescreen iPod with touch controls. The second is a revolutionary mobile phone. The third is a breakthrough Internet communications device."
Apple Officially Launches iPhone, Apple TV
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By PC Magazine Staff
Apple finally took the wraps off its long-awaited iPhone on Tuesday, sharing a brand name with a competing Cisco product.
The iPhone -- called the iPhone, and not any derivative, as had been speculated -- will serve both as an iPod as well as 3G phone, somehow cramming a "3G" radio, iPod functionality, and even a version of OS X into the phone-size package.
The phone itself is dominated by a giant touchscreen, the patent Apple applied for in February.
No word yet on pricing or carriers, but PC Magazine will have more as details roll in.
Apple also confirmed its iTV product will be called Apple TV. Priced at $299, the box won't contain a DVD player, but will somehow output 720p HDMI output from only a 40 Gbyte hard drive. Wireless connections will include 802.11b/g/"draft" n, according to PC Magazine reporters.
Medusa
i think it looks crap
plus samsung will probably make something that looks better for half the cost
Tim
I dunno, looks pretty cool from here...
leeza
I'm in love wub.gif
Wheel
I really didn't think they'd do a phone, thought it'd be too difficult to differentiate. I was wrong.

The Apple TV thing looks interesting too.
PES
...ops!
Darkknight
Only Quadband!!! OK this thing sux.. Something like this should have Quadband and Edge,GPRS or Some other 3.5/4 Gen spec..
eurovol
It will, Christmas 2007. Just in time to buy two in one year.
Wheel
It's got EDGE. No 3G though.
Darkknight
OK.. Just saw EDGE..
Wheel
...
Timmeh
Nice indeed. Lets see if it's got the skills to upset the cellphone market like it did the portable music market.

@DK. Edit: just saw your edit

@Wheel, as far as PC mag is concerned it is 3G
Tim
Warning: Shameless Self Promotion Alert!!

I dunno, looks pretty good, but not as good as this really cool XDA for sale on TT

Sorry.
Darkknight
Apple usually includes cutting edge options and features with its gadgets. You would think They would include
the newest and upcomming features with this device aka: 3G or 3.5G Phone protocols..
Wheel
Can't wait to see the keynote when they post it. Sad or what? However he'd got the RDF turned up to max today so it should be worth watching.
Timmeh
3G is old now innit? Isn't it shockingly shite too? Anyways, doesn't it say right there in the above thread that it IS 3G?
Are 200 patents not cutting edge enough for you??
Come on dude, this thing is as cutting edge as it gets at the moment, probably not aimed at power-user-tech-business-man. More for the people that matter, regular Jo-Blo
Wheel
They got that bit wrong, it's not 3G.
Timmeh
What will 3G do for me?
Wheel
Faster data transfer? Or something, I don't really know. I think that's what EDGE does though.
brokenm
I am surprised that they entered this market, i thought they would go more towards TV portable integration and not the mobile phone market. Personally I think it is a mistake for apple. I don't believe that people want so much intergration. Now if it were a pocket sized vacuum as well, i would buy it. Actually I will probably buy it regardless, as when it is done by apple it is done right...not like fucking Motorola
Timmeh
Apparantly a 3G version is coming out, but as far as I know 3G isn't new tech, it's been blabbed on about with no real impact on the market for years and years
brokenm
Hey it is better than 2G, but not as good as 4G or 3H, but for the real tech savvy, I would require at least a 3PqS43J
Timmeh
NOWHERE near as good as 32DD
Hippo
What's interesting (to me anyway smile.gif ) is that it runs OS X, i.e. it's a real mac, just very, very small!
brokenm
but then I can build that on my own for a better price.
Wheel
Don't they need to build entirely new networks for 3G to work? And the licensing costs were huge and partially responsible for the tech crash of 2000 IIRC. I reckon it won't get off the ground at all and something else will come in instead - 3.5G maybe.
brokenm
yeah but it will probably have only 80Gb for this small mac
Darkknight
It's also 1 ver. of Bluetooth Behind and doesn't have the fixes added since BT 2.0 (Improved xfer speed and EDR) and bug fixes
brokenm
but the real question is...will they have a U2 version?
Wheel
It has got Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR (it says here). Is there much difference?
Marshbot
whoar!!
I was going to say I liked this thing even before I knew what it was... just cos it's Apple and I'm one of those converts who thinks everything in competition with Apple is basically just another shade of shit. But regardless of the fact that I would have said it anyway; that is one sexy looking piece of kit!! wub.gif Seriously.
Timmeh
DK, Hi Def audio!!?? You make me chortle sometimes chap. Dude you're listening to MP3s on a phone/portable music player which are raped of any sound quality whatsoever, so what will hidef shit MP3s sound like? Extra high quality shit sound...nice one!!
brokenm
I was hoping for the special hoverlift handsfree control, plus the powersteering intergration that the new iriver will have. Overall, I am disappointed, no egg poaching capability as well.
Darkknight
Then you must rip your MP3's at crap quality (192k or lower)
Some of us rip at a min. of 256k, and yes it does make a little more of a difference.
BT headsets also sound better with HD audio (BT2+EDR)..

Have you used a BT headset before? The quality of a BT 1.0/1.1/1.2 Headset totally blows
when compaired to BT 2.0/2.1 with EDR.. Don't belive me, go down to Mediamarkt or Saturn and
test them for yourself..


QUOTE (Timmeh @ Jan 9 2007, 9:14 pm) *
DK, Hi Def audio!!?? You make me chortle sometimes chap. Dude you're listening to MP3s on a phone/portable music player which are raped of any sound quality whatsoever, so what will hidef shit MP3s sound like? Extra high quality shit sound...nice one!!
brokenm
I think DK that you need to read a bit about how mp3 works...No matter what your compression level you will be eliminating the full range to trick your ear. Spot on Timmeh!
Darkknight
Your confusing the 2 uses of BT Audio

1. For listening to Music
2. Phonecalls..

Either way the quality is better with 2.0/2.1+EDR than the old stuff..
And whos to say this thing won't play (or be hacked to play) Losseless formats like APE,OGG, or FLAC
where there is no or very little loss...
eurovol
QUOTE (brokenm @ Jan 9 2007, 9:07 pm) *
I would require at least a 3PqS43J

Hey, who gave you the password to my offshore million dollar account? ph34r.gif

QUOTE (Timmeh @ Jan 9 2007, 9:08 pm) *
NOWHERE near as good as 32DD

Got pics to prove it? On a side not, if 32D was bad, how can 32DD be good? tongue.gif
brokenm
But it also will have GPS capapbility and they are contracting with google maps. Sounds like it may be a great thing to have,
jamie
Anyone know how much it costs?
Wheel
In the US it'll be $499 for 4GB or $599 for 8GB including a two year contract with Cingular.
brokenm
including or requiring???
Wheel
Don't know. Some of the features will only work with Cingular because they needed a network upgrade.
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