As I regulary commute between Germany and Norfolk and travel round mid-Germany, I really notice the difference between British and German farms. When I travel round East Anglia I see thousands of pigs in fields grubbing up the field with lost of shelter stalls for them at night.
I have never seen a pig outside in Germany. Given the amount of pork the Germans eat, where are the pigs? Have I missed them or are they all enclosed?
Is it just Britian who is improving the welfare of farm animals?
It's the same in France, I have never seen them there either.
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Where are the German pigs?
Livestock farming in Germany
Pig farming is very regionally concentrated in Germany, in Niedersachsen iirc.
Soylent Green is people.
Yes, you must be looking in the wrong places. I have seen pigs outside in nice big runs attached to a barn. It was somewhere between Starnbergersee and Ammersee. They looked very happy.
No. Do you really think that those "3 for 2" offers on meat in British supermarkets come from happy, free-range animals?
QUOTE (Johnny Norfolk @ Nov 16 2006, 4:02 pm) 
Is it just Britian who is improving the welfare of farm animals?
No. Do you really think that those "3 for 2" offers on meat in British supermarkets come from happy, free-range animals?
Like the milk cows, the pigs are confined to their quarters. Its not pretty. There was an experiment a fews years back to introduce open field herds for beef cattle, but I don't know where that went.
Bron, if its English pork then yes.
Ettstraße 2, 80333 München
I wonder if such a post can get you charged for insulting police-officers?
I was biting my tongue Keydeck but you went and said it.
It was a bit obvious, but couldn't resist.
german schwein are everywhere - you're just not looking hard enough.
QUOTE (tom_a @ Nov 16 2006, 4:53 pm)
I wonder if such a post can get you charged for insulting police-officers?
Who cares? MMM... bacon.
QUOTE (Keydeck @ Nov 16 2006, 4:49 pm)
Ettstraße 2, 80333 München
If thats the Polizeipräsidium then I've been in there numerous times (but someyears ago).
Interesting place - handy to be in posession of the "Generalschlüssel" as all doors incl the toilets were locked...
QUOTE (pike @ Nov 16 2006, 6:00 pm)
german schwein are everywhere - you're just not looking hard enough.
that's what i thought
They have another breed of animals here, they´re called Eierlegendewollmilchsau! (egg-laying wooly milk sow)
Ive seen "Wollschweine" - woolly pigs...
http://www.wild-park.de
http://www.wild-park.de
Here ya go.. All the pigs you can handle
QUOTE (Bron @ Nov 16 2006, 4:30 pm)
Do you really think that those "3 for 2" offers on meat in British supermarkets come from happy, free-range animals?
QUOTE (Johnny Norfolk @ Nov 16 2006, 4:49 pm)
if its English pork then yes.
?!? Do me a lemon.
Free range pork in England costs a pretty penny, its nothing like the "3 for 2" crap that Asda sells. It's not even all about "free range", its also about other shit, like the feed, or the breeds that are chosen by supermarkets for growth not flavour. The massive trays of light pinkish limp meat flogged for pittance at the supermarkets don't come from happy pigs that can root about in dirt and fields all day. Oh no.
QUOTE (Johnny Norfolk @ Nov 16 2006, 4:02 pm)
It's the same in France, I have never seen them there either.
Hunt down a "fete du cochon". Hilariously good fun. I've been chased by wild boar in Provence man, thare be pigs in France alright.
They´ve all been made into Bratwurst!
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