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Updated Google Maps satellite photos of Munich

We reckon they're from 10.50am Friday 24.Aug.2007

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randy
I hadn't noticed this before, but it looks like Google maps has updated their satellite imagery of Munich with coverage taken just before springtime this year. For instance, the Allianz arena is completed, the trees are bare, and that giant football is behind the Marienplatz for the World Cup. The resolution is much better than previously; especially using Google Earth, the detail seems to be from 2,000 feet above ground.



Related topic: Google Maps now cover Germany
crispybee
And whats going on in the corner of Marienplatz?
pootle
Guess its one of the mime performers, but I didnt see the water fountain one until after the WM.

Small Town Boy
Yeah, that's one of the people who pretend to be a statue. If you look closely at the photo, you can actually see her twitching and swaying slightly.
ian
My mum in England can check out Google earth to see if I have cleaned my car and cut the lawn! Then I get a nagging email!

crispybee
And my Mum was impressed when she saw her own house back in the UK and her old car on the driveway.

"Is that a live piture?" she asked.
"No, cos thats you old car which you sold two years ago, and anyway, its now 10.30 pm and its dark outside"
Darkknight
It's a color enhanced IR Thermal camera.. It even works in the dark biggrin.gif
don_riina
Be nice to know in advance when they are going to take new imagery. Could organise a flash mob to spell out rude words on Marienplatz. That'd be great. Well, OK, it would be childish and immature, but I'd giggle.
Eeyore
You mean you'd gather a gaggle so you could goggle at Google and giggle...?
FloSch
Some friends of mine tracked down the exact date of the current images of Munich. They were taken on April 8 2006.
TheSwedishChef
How did they manage to do that?
FloSch
Well that soccer thing on Marienhof helped to narrow it down to about six weeks. Some road and tram works helped to narrow it down to about two weeks. It was soon pretty obvious that the images must have been taken on a saturday (flea market at Messestadt) and certain other things like empty parking lots at factories.
Some odd thing which I can't remember made it clear that April 8 is the correct date.
Editor Bob
I notice that just in the last few days Google Maps have updated their satellite photo of central Munich.

Districts included are Altstadt, Lehel, Isarvorstadt, Maxvorstadt, Schwabing, Westend, and Olympiapark.

Outside of those areas are still showing the imagery from 2006.

Compare the photo of Marienplatz as posted above by Pootle in 2006 with the current photo as seen below:



We managed to determine the previous photo was from 8.Apr.2006. Anyone want to make a guess at the exact time and date that new photo was taken?

Given that the Oktoberfest tents are up, but the fairground rides are not, I'm guessing around August 2007.

The Tollwood site at Olympiapark looks semi-built. Perhaps it's being disassembled. Tollwood dates were June 14 to July 8, 2007.

The Olympiapark Sommerfest isn't up. That ran August 9 to 16, 2007.

The streets are pretty quiet, the shadows are long and are pointing west, so that suggests early morning.
randy

You could probably use the obelisk at Karolinenplatz as a sundial to give a pretty good time estimate. I'm not good at the math for this, but the latitude is 48/08/41 (degrees/minutes/seconds) and longitude is 11:34:08 (hours:minutes:seconds). The obelisk is 29 meters high, and the time zone is +1. Assuming that Google orients their maps to true north, does anyone want to have a go at it?

I did find this somewhat helpful page on making horizontal sundials, but I've not had time to try this out at work.
planetmoni
September 2007
Sinderbox
Month? We wanted date, time, hour, minute and, if possible, second.
Randy, you'd need to provide the map scale too.
billybob
it's not tollwood - the tent's aren't right
looks like the tents of one of the kinderfests that happen at the tollwood site
possibly from this link http://www.ganz-muenchen.de/freizeit/kinde...lympiapark.html

that would put it from 16.-26.07.2007 - the Wiesn tents are defo put up so early - still looks like alot of work to be done there, no fairgrounds rides there or outer biergarten parts added then
Gorgo
QUOTE (Sinderbox @ Jul 22 2008, 3:25 pm) *
Month? We wanted date, time, hour, minute and, if possible, second.

according to the direction of the shadow the sun is at 129° (if 0° is North, 180° is South)

the distance-measuring tool of google maps says the length of the shadow is around 32m so if the height of the obelisk is 29m the sun is at an height of atan(29/32) = 42°

with http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Sonnenst...chen_300dpi.png it's about about 9:50 in the morning = 8:50 am summertime and probably the 24 August biggrin.gif

-> wink.gif

Spookyfella
Um, summertime = +1 not -1 ? Full marks for the research though!
Gorgo
you're right, confuses me every time, so should be 10:50 24/08
Editor Bob
Nice work, Gorgo. I'm not qualified to tell whether you're right or not, but it sounds pretty plausible to me.
Spookyfella
Today Google will release Google Earth 4.3 that includes some new interesting features:

You can now find the exact date when a particular satellite image was captured - move the cursor over the image and the date (when that image was taken) will appear near the status bar of Google Earth.

So, we should be able to find out!
Editor Bob
Agh, it'll spoil all our fun.
Sinderbox
The fun we had. Now we can tune the thread title and bet about deviations smile.gif
Gorgo
QUOTE (Spookyfella @ Jul 22 2008, 5:54 pm) *
You can now find the exact date when a particular satellite image was captured - move the cursor over the image and the date (when that image was taken) will appear near the status bar of Google Earth.

and you're telling me that now? rolleyes.gif
Small Town Boy
Marienplatz is much too quiet and the shadows much too long for it to be just an hour shy of midday. It can't be much later than 7am.
randy
Google Earth says the imagery was taken on Saturday, the 25th of August, but no time was given. Very close, Gorgo! Nordbad is looking pretty busy, and it only opens at 07:30...
Small Town Boy
OK, but the shops on Kaufingerstrasse open at 9.30am yet the street is almost deserted, despite it being a Saturday. So maybe around 8 or 8.30am.

According to the wonderful "Rückblick" feature on wetter.com, the temperature at 8am on 25.08.07 was a sultry 17°C, warming up to 19°C by 9am, so it's perfectly feasible that people were sunbathing that early in the morning.
Gorgo
QUOTE (randy @ Jul 24 2008, 9:56 am) *
Google Earth says the imagery was taken on Saturday, the 25th of August, but no time was given.

yay wink.gif

I don't think the restaurants on Marienplatz open that early (maybe between 9 and 10 as well?!). Also the pictures weren't taken at the same time obviously, I don't know how long it takes for a (slow?) plane to fly over the whole area of Munich but there might be a difference of half an hour or even an hour between pictures.
Editor Bob
I don't know for sure, but I think these are satellite photos, not aerial photos. And the amount of ground a satellite can cover in one photo is pretty large. It can easily do the whole of downtown Munich in one exposure. A bit of Googling would probably bring up the exact details.
don_riina
QUOTE
but I think these are satellite photos, not aerial photos

Wouldn't aerial photos often leave a shadow of the plane on the ground? That'd be a bit rubbish.
Small Town Boy
Woerner's Cafe am Marienplatz opens at 8am on Saturdays, for example. I think that must be around the time the images were taken.
Gorgo
QUOTE (Wikipedia)
Although Google uses the word "satellite", most of the high-resolution imagery is aerial photography taken from airplanes rather than from satellites

en.wikipedia.org / Google Maps and as we all know, wikipedia doesn't lie! wink.gif

small town boy: donisl opens at 9 wink.gif
Nathan
Drat! They changed it? I loved the fact I could see a tree I cut down for the city along the Isar. (Sawdust where the tree was cut up)

Darkknight
Came across GeoEye (Wikipedia), which states that Satts used for these type pix, are positioned and synchronized to the sun, which allows
them to visit any area of the planet at 1030am everyday in that areas local time..

This also applies to the new Geoeye-1 Satt. which Google has exclusive rights to.. As of this post its over Austria and moving north at 7km per second.. Track it - Here
While all the news is about GeoEye, the Germans have launched a constellation of 5 imaging satts. in the last 2 weeks. You can track RapidEye-A/E - Here
gaijin
QUOTE (don_riina @ Jul 24 2008, 11:26 am) *
Wouldn't aerial photos often leave a shadow of the plane on the ground? That'd be a bit rubbish.

No, because the photos are taken almost directly down from the plane (you can see that even very
high buildings appear very small. My house has 13 floors and you see very little of the sides). At
the latitute of Munich (48deg), the sun can never be directly overhead, maximum should be about
70 degrees in mid-June. You sometimes see other planes' shadows, but never the shadow of
the plane taking the pictures.
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