space
Jul 22 2004, 7:37 pm
I thought this was a rather nicely done stencil in a S-bahn shelter at Ottobrunn. I thought I´d share it. Anyone else got some good stuff? Thanks.
Take care,
Have fun,
space
P.S. It wasn´t me.
mrbobke
Jul 24 2004, 10:25 am
Is that a bullet hole? Hope so...
Editor Bob
Jul 27 2004, 11:12 am
Sucht" I think means "Addiction". Dunno what the message is tho'.
Showem
Jul 27 2004, 11:13 am
Or perhaps, "searching"?
Jimbo
Jul 27 2004, 11:18 am
There's one of those "Sucht" ones right outside my flat - I thought it was an anti-Nazi thing as I assumed (probably incorrectly) that that was a rose the 'person' is holding up...
acquascutum
Jul 27 2004, 11:25 am
isn't it an opium poppy?
Keydeck
Jul 27 2004, 11:28 am
If these people spent more time getting an education or a job and less time defacing buildings with this crap then the world would be a better place.
Editor Bob
Jul 27 2004, 11:30 am
OK, a bit more research reveals that "Sucht" is the handle of the "artist", who remains anonymous. His/her rose stencils appear far and wide, for example
this one in LondonThe Munich Sucht stencils have also been documented (in German) here:
Sucht Stencil - which I think includes
a photo of the one Jimbo is refering to.
Jimbo
Jul 27 2004, 11:32 am
Yep - the Blütenstr. one appeared over Christmas - I've seen people photographing it on occasion too - guess one of 'em was the author of that site.
profundo
Jul 27 2004, 11:37 am
I'm with Showem.
People hold up pieces of paper with '2 karte sucht' at the opera when they are searching for tickets for that night's performance.
Google says that 'sought' = 'gesucht'.
Perhaps that rose is a rose of peace, although a dove would work as a better image.
Thusly, the image is 'Seek Peace' which would be a political statement.
Just a guess.
Jimbo
Jul 27 2004, 12:06 pm
I took the rose to be a white rose, hence my anti-Nazi assumptions...
Keydeck. Good point. No, really. Very good point. I think you're onto something there. Well done.
Punchbear
Jul 29 2004, 4:33 pm
I think it's playing on several themes at once. Sucht meaning "addiction" and "longing" and the you plural imperative of "search". The opium poppy plays on the flower as peace symbol, possibly a comment on the need and longing for peace in the world at the moment, the middle east specifically as that's where most of the worlds opium comes from (I suspect). Or the addiction to war that's plaguing the planet at the moment. This impression is reinforced by the military stencil font employed.
Showem
Jul 29 2004, 5:12 pm
It's not an opium poppy, in case anyone was actually duped into believing that. This is an opium poppy.
Punchbear
Jul 30 2004, 11:23 am
Maybe it's supposed to represent someone grasping the rose of addiction by the thorns.
I like this one as well.

And this one.
SparkaHck
Aug 2 2004, 10:13 am
It looks like
Banksy's stuff.
Malcolm Spudbury
Aug 3 2004, 7:46 pm
Just uploaded a few pictures into my gallery:
Graffiti under one of the bridges on the Isar, March 2003. Includes higher quality shots of the one posted above by Punchbear.
As for that "Sucht" stencil, I've seen it in a couple of places. Most recently on one of the bridges in the
Olympiapark. No idea what it's supposed to mean.
Found this first one while out poster-hunting, and the second in
Marienplatz. .. Both were really as you say... 'WTF'?

Crotaline
Aug 5 2004, 9:34 am
If one is 'Suchtig" one is 'seeky' (paraphrased from Cryptonomicon.) As is if you are Morphiumsuchtig, you are morphine-seeky :addicted to morphine. I often joke with my old lady that Im Fahrrad-suchtig. she agrees.
I think its a nice play on the stencil/graf set, since it can become an addiction. Many try to create a repetoire as full and well-known as Banksy. Every city has a local favorite. LA has OBEY/GIANT created by Shepard Fairey. Florida has a very talented individual named 'Algernon'.
If youre interested in what is out there...
STENCIL REVOLUTION has stencils ranging from the
bad and absurd to the
Truly SpectacularI guess thats all. Ill see if I can find more pics of stuff Ive seen here in Munich.
C.
Badger
Aug 6 2004, 3:14 pm
On the guy-with-rose theme again - what about the most obvious meaning of a rose, the one that all you guys out there should add to your vocabulary
rose = love,
esp as its a guy holding the rose up as if to a balcony or kneeling down or something.
So: I read it as a more or less subtle personal ad: the young artist looking for luuuurve.
Sweet.
Editor Bob
May 18 2005, 12:35 pm
Here's some more graffitti from the artist calling themselves "Sucht"...

I came across this yesterday on the corner of Rheinstrasse and Simmernstrasse in
Schwabing. I think it's nicely done but I know Keydeck won't agree.
For those not familiar with their WWII Munich history, this is a stencilled version of the now famous Sophie Scholl image. Sophie Scholl was the Munich student who denounced the Nazi regime in April 1945. She and her brother peacefully distributed flyers in the university on Ludwigstrasse. They were arrested before leaving the building and 10 days later were executed by guillotine. A film was recently made about her:
Sophie Scholl - The Final Days. The same image as above is to be found printed onto paving stones where she was arrested. Photo here:
Geschwister-Scholl-Platz
Daisy
Mar 5 2006, 7:29 pm
Found this graffiti of Sucht on a pedestrian overpass on my way to Munich.
It is outside of Munich (not sure where - somewhere along the B304 between Ebersberg and Munich-perhaps Kirchseeon/Egelharting?).
It is actually on both sides of the bridge.
planetmoni
Mar 5 2006, 7:48 pm
@ daisy: still egelharting ( new
SBahn bridge), you were actually only a 15mins drive away from my parent's home. nice area :-))))
luckwad
Mar 5 2006, 7:54 pm
QUOTE (Daisy @ Mar 5 2006, 7:29 pm)

Found this graffiti of Sucht on a pedestrian overpass on my way to Munich. It is outside of Munich (not sure where - somewhere along the B304 between Ebersberg and Munich-perhaps Kirchseeon/Egelharting?).
yep, right at the edge of eglharting and kirchseeon, drive past there quite often.
The local primary school graffitti never ceases to make me chuckle:

Quality, no?
Daisy
Mar 5 2006, 8:00 pm
ah! Thanks Planetmoni! I thought it was a pedestrian bridge. my bad. But good to know it was in Egelharting.

edit: quality graffiti luckwad. love it.
luckwad
Mar 11 2006, 2:18 pm
This one made me laugh, found in the
Karlsplatz toilets:
[img]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/taylor65/graffiti.jpg[/img]
Oliver Besnier
May 22 2006, 7:58 pm
Oliver Besnier
May 22 2006, 8:07 pm
More by Oliver Twisted
What do you think of???

Keydeck
May 22 2006, 8:08 pm
QUOTE (Oliver Besnier @ May 22 2006, 9:07 pm)

What do you think of???
It's graffiti, he should be given a fine.
Lassie
May 22 2006, 10:26 pm
I think Oliver Twisted might be Oliver Besnier in disguise. Is that your real name? Were you at
The Arc on Saturday night?
Then again I might be completely wrong in which case I apologise profusely
Editor Bob
Jul 27 2004, 11:07 am
This
piece of graffiti was spotted outside Ungererbad in Schwabing. I think "
Sucht" in this context means "Addiction". Not sure what the message is but the style is kinda reminiscent of the
graffiti in Munich noticed by
space last week. Has this kind of street art always been present in Munich or are we witnessing a new wave? Together with the
Space Invaders, this graffiti is refreshingly adult and intelligent. Better than the
oldschool stuff you see sprayed at S-Bahn stations. There are a number of websites documenting graffiti in Munich. One of the more interesting ones is
emkaaart.de. Last year the person/people responsible for that site went around replacing newspaper box headlines with their
own messages.
And click to see some
Banana Graffiti from Maximilianstrasse.
[img]http://www.toytowngermany.com/munich/munich_graffiti_sucht_thumb.jpg[/img]Click image for the larger version
Colonel Kurtz
Jul 27 2004, 11:10 am
looks like an opium poppy to me...
FrankyK
Jul 27 2004, 2:27 pm
Banksy (from the UK) seems to take most props for kicking off the whole stencil graffiti scene. His stuff is mostly in London and Bristol, but imitations seem to be appearing everywhere.
You can check out his stuff at this site:
banksy.co.uk
Marty
Jul 27 2004, 6:57 pm
Stop promoting vandalism!
It's not art.
grtho
Jul 28 2004, 8:12 am
Vandalism? Then advertising is "vandalism" too. In your face adverts for beer, ladies underwear or the latest rip off scheme from a bank. Some graf looks shite, a lot of it looks good. Let's not be so bourgeois and property obscessed, eh?
Anonymous
Jul 28 2004, 9:52 am
My thoughts exactly grtho.
'Kunst ist schoen, alltag ist schoener'
Mos
Jul 28 2004, 10:38 am
Hay people! Recomm' reading.
the-art-of-rebellion.com
Marty
Jul 28 2004, 10:58 am
Here again:
vandalism: willful or malicious destruction or defacement of public or private property
"willful or malicious destruction"??? explain please how the addition of original artwork to our cities landscapes is destructive? would you prefer if all of your daily visual food came from tired over-used advertisment visuals and slogans, designed to stop you from have original thoughts or decisions. perhaps you should consider how wilfully destructive a typical McD's advert is to original thought. Damn fool, enjoy your 99cent lunch!
Marty
Jul 28 2004, 1:34 pm
I reject everything which happens against the will of the owner. No matter what the graffiti looks like. But obviously it's not common anymore to respect other people's property.
Karl M.
Jul 28 2004, 4:13 pm
property is theft
Anonymous
Jul 28 2004, 4:15 pm
How jolly lofty of you! Would you have been against cave painting too? "I say, that ajoining wall belongs to my very good friend in the next cave - can you please stop with your doodlings..it doesn;t even look like a water buffallo!!"
Keep all 'art' in 'galleries' where it belongs. Hmmm perhaps then you should you tell us all what is deemed acceptable art. Simon says 'one step to the RRRRRIGHT! Lol. Gee maybe you have a point.
Boldboy
Jul 28 2004, 4:18 pm
I envisage "marty knows whats what" stickers appearing all over town real soooon...
Anonymous
Jul 28 2004, 4:21 pm
"Stop promoting vandalism! It's not art."
Bwaahhhaahahahaa!
"I envisage "marty knows whats what" stickers appearing all over town real soooon..."
Excellent idea - pictures of Marty Whelan with "Marty knows...". Genius.
Marty
Jul 28 2004, 4:23 pm
criminal dickheads all over
Boldboy
Jul 28 2004, 4:26 pm
Oh Mmmmmarty what have you gone and done!? You seem to have encouraged even more people to create their own ideas and slogans, print them out on their personal printer and go out and cover the city with them...ooops-a-daisy!
Punchbear
Jul 28 2004, 4:26 pm
Somehow this is relevant.
"It's here for us to admire if we can afford the beauty of it
Can afford the luxury of turning our heads
Adjust that thousand dollars smile and behold the creation of man
Great words won't cover ugly actions - good frames won't save bad paintings.
When the day is over - Hey! - the doors are locked on us
Money buys the access - and we can't pay the cost
And how can we expect anyone to listen if we are using the same old voice?
We need new noise - new art for the real people"
Graffiti is Art. And it's tolerated by the city to a certain degree as it IS a valid form of cultural expression, it DOES lend to the citys' character and this city has already seen enough repression of Art in its' long history. Ey?
Boldboy
Jul 28 2004, 4:28 pm
Round us up marty!!! please! Use a big rope too. Oooh whats Marty goin to do with us!? Hey marty you don't have a problem with 'alternative lifestyles too do you?'
Keydeck
Jul 28 2004, 5:51 pm
I have to agree with Marty to some extent. If I caught someone putting graffiti on the wall on my building I'd break his (or her) vandalising fingers. Art or not, if you don't own the canvas or have permission to use it then you shouldn't.
Neil
Jul 29 2004, 9:34 am
Spot on Keydeck.
Boldboy, Punchbear - perhaps you'd like someone to come round with a crate of spray paint and turn your living room into a work of "art"?
Actually, according to you, they don't even need to ask permission.
Don't want to repress their creativity now do we?
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