No lengthening of shop opening hours in Bavaria

But you know that they're just wrong!!
Sorry, but not having contributed to 50 pages (very unlike me) just felt I had to add my two pennies worth.

I'm sharing my personal experiences and knowledge as a small business owner. One you are all so keen to protect through laws that would actually harm me. It's pretty condascending, don't you think?

Do you own a business, Canaryman? If not, then you have no credibility writing from a small business point of view - and you are certainly not in a position to even question my knowledge.

Go back through the thread for the answer to that one.


My point was always that no one should be open on Sundays, big or small. I was never with the proctectionists. I argued along social lines and the potential effects such changes have on society. This is why these issues are debated. There's always 2 sides to a story and you refuse to see the other sides or even consider them. The economic side is fine, but what about the social side? Surely, that should be considered too? We've provided you with more than enough evidence, but you choose to ignore it and play on the assumptions made and limitations to which all studies are bound. I think a certain anti-smoking thread would be a good example. Anyhow, I just wanted to push this thread past 1,000 posts which is why I rejoined. I've made my points long ago.

Nobody has been able to demonstrate a link between an increase in crime and an the introduction of Sunday trading.

You know what? I blame the breakdown of society on the size of computers. When computers were the size of large warehouses, it was safe to walk the streets at night. Now that they are small enough to fit in your pocket, crime has gotten out of control...

Show me the link between Sunday trading and juvenile delinquency.

Oh - and your words on Saturday night: "I don't really care one way or the other. In South Africa the 4 hours that the shops were open didn't turn me into a delinquent". So where's this about face coming from? And don't tell me it's because canaryman makes any sense...

Nope, but my father in law did (well around 300 employees), 4 of my friends that I attended school and college with have businesses within the catering industry (bars, hotels, restaurants).
Are you saying that you have to have had open heart surgery to know anything about it? If so does that mean that only those that have undergone the procedure are allowed to perform it??

You have your opinion and I have mine so we will just have to agree to differ.

http://www.zippix.co.uk/shop/shop-infopage...EARCHatlantis~0

300 employees is almost a chain!!

The thing is that I am actually a small business owner in Munich. OK, I'm not in retail, but I would hate to be dictated to as to when I should open and when I should not. Getting people to work on Sundays (or even doing it myself) is not a problem. So you can throw all the studies at me that you want, but it's not going to change that fact.

And if you're looking for an opinion on heart surgery, then you'd like to think that those people who have actually had it might have more knowledge about the procedure when talking about it. And you'd think that when they did, their views may carry more weight...

Thats exactly what I said. What I forgot to add was that they were only open the last couple of years I was there. No, they didnt change the landscape of the town and the way of life, but then again it was only the large chains that opened probably because the smaller family-owned shops wanted a day to themselves and didnt have the resources to both open on a Sunday and have the day off to be spent with the family. Which is the same argument that the employees of major chains have i.e. that they have less time to spend with their families.

Your argument that extended hours would lead to additional employment is rather weak in my eyes. In every company that Ive worked in, everyone has had to work overtime regularly. One would think that the company would employ extra employees so that everyone can go home at a decent hour. But unfortunately they dont and everyone ends up working the time because they simply happy to have a job. This is where trade unions and the government are supposed to step in and protect the little man because if you give companies free rein they will just walk all over you. If you need a study to show you a link between fucked-up children and parents that they never saw because they were constantly working, then you must really be blind or naive because its all over the place. You dont need a study, you just need to open your eyes and stop looking at things solely from your viewpoint which is biased to say the least. At least, I can say that I have argued from both sides and decided that it would be better not to extend shopping hours to Sunday. I still haven't seen an argument that its suddenly going to kickstart the economy either just btw.

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