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The Nazi Lebensborn project

Its children still coming to terms with it today

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canaryman
BBC News: Nazi 'master race' children meet

It seems the children that the "Nazis" believed to be the "most Aryan looking" that were put into Nazi families for indoctrination are meeting for the first time.

I am sure that there are many sad stories to tell and hopefully people will be sympathetic to their plight as many were just taken from their parents, taken to a new country and left to the devices of their new Nazi approved family. I find that very sad and even sadder that they have suffered prejudices throughout their lives through no fault of their own sad.gif
Bell the cat
Anni-Fryd Lyngstrom of Abba fame was one of the Lebensborn. Her mother was Norwegian and her father a German soldier. Sho only discovered her father was still alive when a newspaper 'exposed' her as a 'Nazi child' in a particularly unpleasant piece of gutter journalism.
Ulysses
It was Anni-Frid Lyngstad. She was reunited with her father as a result of the gutter journalism.
Bell the cat
oops, I knew it was Lyng-something. She was reunited with her father but I rather doubt this silver lining made the roastiung she got from the press any the less painful.
Ulysses
I don't know. Her mother died when she was 2 and she always thought her father had died. She was fully aware that her father had been a German soldier so I'm pretty sure it wasn't the first time she had had Nazi thrown in her face. The reason why she grew up in Sweden in the first place was because her mother had to flee Norway due to her association with the Germans.

What's also interesting to note is that she was married to a German aristocrat and through him became friends with Queen Silvia of Sweden whose father was a registered member of the Nazi party. You should also ask Norwegians just how neutral the Swedes really were during WW2. Sort of as "neutral" as the Swiss.
canaryman
QUOTE (Ulysses @ Nov 5 2006, 1:29 pm) *
You should also ask Norwegians just how neutral the Swedes really were during WW2. Sort of as "neutral" as the Swiss.

You should try talking to the Danes about the Swedish, now that is interesting. It may be of interest to you but my commanding officer had a grandfather that was born and bred SA. Every 6 months he volunteered for the Wehrmacht during WWII but was refused as he was the engineer in charge of the local dam and his work was deemed too important to let him join the debauchery of the marauding Nazis. How neutral was SA during the war? (probably less "neutral" than the Swiss.)
FuzzyTony
There's a vintage animated short feature from Walt Disney Productions made in 1943 that looks interesting.

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Walt Disney's "Education for Death - The Story of One of 'Hitler's Children'" is a vintage anti-Nazi propaganda 'toon that inflames your sense of justice by showing how an innocent German baby could be twisted into a goose-stepping fascist by the machinery of the Reich.

You can view it here: "Education for Death: The Making of the Nazi - The Story of One of 'Hitler's Children'"
And here: Anti-Nazi-Zeichentrickfilm von Disney

IMDB: Education for Death (1943)

Johnny Norfolk
QUOTE (Bell the cat @ Nov 5 2006, 10:55 am) *
a newspaper 'exposed' her as a 'Nazi child' in a particularly unpleasant piece of gutter journalism.

The gutter journalisam was also the truth.
BadDoggie
Anni-Fryd Lyngstrom was a baby, an innocent. She could do no more for the atrocities of her parents than you could for yours. Her private life was destroyed by sleazy tabloids. Hope the same thing happens to you, JN. Go die.

woof.
Jules Winnfield
QUOTE (BadDoggie @ Feb 19 2007, 8:51 am) *
JN. Go die.

You're being a little harsh, don't you think?

Anyway, Lyngstad knew who her father was (and he was just a foot soldier, it's not like he was Mengele), it's just that she thought that he had died during the war. From what I remember seeing on some show, the reunion was brief, but went well.
Johnny Norfolk
You should not hide the truth from people no matter how difficult it may be. 'The truth will out' and the sooner it does the quicker you can get over it.

We need more straight speaking and openess not less.

Bad dogie. Why do you critisize the gutter press then behave like them yourself ?
sarabyrd
QUOTE (Johnny Norfolk @ Feb 19 2007, 8:28 am) *
The gutter journalisam was also the truth.

Sometimes the naked truth comes across better if you let her wear a few rags to preserve her dignity.
Johnny Norfolk
The Labour government call it spin but it is either lying or hiding the truth as some of you would prefer.

Just say it as it is.

But I am from the North.
Pirulero
@fuzzytony...that cartoon is weird...considering that's it's well documented that the Disneys were strongly sympathetic to the Nazi cause...a guilt project?
FuzzyTony
QUOTE (Pirulero @ Feb 19 2007, 10:53 am) *
...a guilt project?

I believe it could well be. A few years after the German-American Bund was founded in 1933 Walt Disney, along with his lawyer Gunther Lessig and many Hollywood personalities interested in the Nazi movement, would attend the Bund's meetings. By the time the U.S. entered World War Two Disney saw Hitler's true colors and his studio subsequently released a few anti-Nazi propaganda features.

Yeti
Or Disney saw that cutie cartoons and supporting the enemy of your major market doth not a good business plan make ?
pike
QUOTE (canaryman @ Nov 5 2006, 10:11 am) *
It seems the children that the "Nazis" believed to be the "most Aryan looking" that were put into Nazi families for indoctrination are meeting for the first time.

Looks like these 'Nazi' children were doing more than just reminiscing - Norway sued by children of Nazis (BBC).

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The former war children claim they suffered widespread abuse and discrimination after the war.
Tomasino
QUOTE (canaryman @ Nov 5 2006, 11:11 am) *
It seems the children that the "Nazis" believed to be the "most Aryan looking" that were put into Nazi families for indoctrination are meeting for the first time.

Eet vos only a seemple matta off taym before ze uzzuh vuns finally vud come around to ze fact zat sumsing vos a leetle special about us.

Vee needed to continue ze perfect vurk zat vos wunz stotted, oahl zos yeeuhz ago. Our only regret ees zat now ze Abba gurl has troubles to cooperate.

But vee steel haff vays to make ze less cooperative come round.
Dafydd
I know it's politically incorrect to admit it but I find myself completely inspired and awe struck by these clearly superior physical specimens.

Wee Mun
QUOTE (Johnny Norfolk @ Feb 19 2007, 9:18 am) *
You should not hide the truth from people no matter how difficult it may be. 'The truth will out' and the sooner it does the quicker you can get over it.

We need more straight speaking and openess not less.

Bad dogie. Why do you critisize the gutter press then behave like them yourself ?

It is none of the people's business who someone's father is, why do the "people" have to know about that. Shit, I bought an ABBA record, I hope they disclosed everything, as there is no way I would have bought it if I had known Anna's old man was a german soldier. You really are a fanny sometimes JN!
topcat 1
More than sixty years after the end of World War Two it would appear that it is not only Germany that has not come to terms with its legacy.

I read with interest last year about the plight of the Lebensborn in Germany. Thousands of children were abducted during the war and placed with Nazi families simply because they possessed the Aryan qualities of having blonde hair and blue eyes. Many of these children grew up facing trauma and prejudice because of their origins.

However, I was shocked to read today about Norway’s Lebensborn; children fathered by German soldiers during the War. Although many of these children were shipped to Germany, thousands remained in Norway. Post war they became the target of discrimination and abuse because of their German parentage. Many were placed in mental institutions on the blurred premise that their Mothers’ must have been mentally ill to consort with German soldiers and therefore they must be mentally ill as well.

One hundred and fifty of the “war children� are now suing the Norwegian authorities at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

See BBC article: Norway sued by children of Nazis
Elizabeth40
I found this quite interesting- Discovery Channel

Nazis the Occult Conspiracy which is a 2 part Documentary which you can find on Google video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4360800110742625275

The Madness in Full Light best documentary I have seen for WW2.
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