Carry-on baggage restrictions on flights - Germany

Hand luggage laws, new from 6.Nov.2006

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Hi,

I thought this email might be of use to people who use Lufthansa regularly, the following is a security update with regards to what liquids you can and can't bring on the plane with you when flying with them.

Lufthansa - carry-on baggage:

With effect from 6 November 2006, there will be restrictions on liquids which can be taken into the cabin on flights originating within the EU, as well as on connecting flights from European airports. This includes all domestic flights.

Liquid and gel products, such as toiletries and cosmetics, are permitted in hand luggage, provided they conform to the following regulations:[list=1]
  • Containers with liquids and similar products may hold up to 100 ml (i.e. the maximum capacity when full as printed on the container)
  • All individual containers must be carried together in a transparent, re-sealable (e.g. "zip top") plastic bag, with a maximum capacity of one litre
  • Only one bag is permitted per person
  • The bag must be shown separately at the Security Control
  • Which I guess is good news that you can now bring deo with you ! Anyway it continues

    Medicines and special food (e.g. liquid baby food) required during the flight do not need to be carried in the plastic bag. However, these items must also be presented at Security.

    Items and bags which do not meet these criteria may not be taken on board the plane. A similar regulation has been in force since 29 September 2006 on flights and connecting flights in the USA.
    Which is all fair and good. But everyone wants to know about duty free

    Duty free items may be carried on board, provided that:[list=1]
  • they were purchased at an airport within the European Union or on board an EU airline, e.g. on a Lufthansa flight* and they are carried on board in a sealed bag, with accompanying proof of purchase dated the same day
  • The bag is sealed at the point of purchase. (This regulation does not apply on codeshare flights.)
  • At least they are making an effort to clarify things. But I don't really get why codeshare flights don't apply.
    BadDoggie
    No, it is most definitely not "well and good". This whole restriction on liquids is a load of bullshit, cooked up by a bunch of people with police powers to scare you and get you to submit willingly to further and further controls of your privacy and freedom. Thomas C. Greene wrote an excellent analysis about why the whole liquids scare was a load of bollox.

    Nevertheless, the people haven't spoken up, complained or refused to travel and the airlines love it because you can carry even less while "security" prevents passengers from bringing their own booze on the flight, allowing the airlines to charge you for €5 per mini bottle. "We didn't make the rules," they all say. All based on a bullshit claim.

    woof.
    Moonboot
    I agree that it's 'well and good'. for me it's no big deal to buy a drink on the flight rather than bringing my own. people got used to not taking nailfiles/scissors/knitting needles/etc on flights they'll get used to these new regulations too. fact is many of us still have to fly to get to where we want to go so refusing to travel in protest may not be an option.
    cinzia
    Salon.com has an interesting weekly column called Ask the Pilot. Here's part of his take on the carry-on-liquids-in-a-baggy thing, as currently administered in the US:

    There you have it: Tiny containers of hand sanitizer in zip-lock bags are harmless and approved. Those not in zip-lock bags are dangerous contraband. Meanwhile, the TSA still cannot justify its methods of confiscation: If certain liquids and gels are taken from a passenger, the assumption has to be that those materials are potentially hazardous. If so, why are they tossed unceremoniously into the trash? At every checkpoint you'll see a bin or barrel brimming with illegal containers. They are not quarantined or handed over to the bomb squad; they are thrown away. In effect, the agency readily admits that it knows these things are harmless. But it's going to steal them anyway, and either you like it or you don't fly.
    The story before this quote about how he got busted for some hand sanitizer NOT in a ziploc bag is pretty amusing, too.

    These regulations will be EU-wide, for ALL airlines beginning 6 November, btw.
    Bell the cat
    be aware that if you fly to the UK and try to return, every single piece of liquid in youtrr handluggage will be confiscated. Last week I had a tiny cigarette lighter that was removed from my jacket and confiscated and I saw people having perfume, toothpaste and lipstick removed too.
    HEM
    Its state-stealing. The old-fashioned word was "income tax"
    MonksTown
    the airlines love it because you can carry even less while "security" prevents passengers from bringing their own booze on the flight, allowing the airlines to charge you for €5 per mini bottle.
    Bingo!

    Talking of UTTER TWAT bullshit:

    Remember hose "terrorists" from Forest Gate, East London?
    The ones where the police spent £ 2 million on raiding their house?

    Well they were never charged with any terrorist offences but the police fed the story to the media that there was evidence of their involvement in child porngraphy:

    Innocent of that too.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6092624.stm

    I would trust the new TWAT industry and politcos if they told me the sky was blue.
    Eleanor Rigby
    For the record, OG made it through security on Saturday with several large bottles of shampoo and other liquid toiletries in his hand-luggage. They didn't say a thing nor did they ask to see the contents of his black wet bag.
    Jeeves
    ER: you mean security here at Munich?
    Eleanor Rigby
    Yes, in Munich. There are signs posted with the new restrictions but staff didn't seem to be paying attention.

    EDIT: ah I see now, this goes into effect November 6, 2006
    Allershausen
    be aware that if you fly to the UK and try to return, every single piece of liquid in youtrr handluggage will be confiscated. Last week I had a tiny cigarette lighter that was removed from my jacket and confiscated and I saw people having perfume, toothpaste and lipstick removed too.
    I know someone who had their Marmite confiscated from their carry on luggage!
    My daughter flew from Düsseldorf to Munich with a pair of scissors in her handbag!
    cinzia
    Was OG flying to the US?

    I think that's the only country with a carry-on liquids restriction when flying to the country right now. You can't fly out of the UK with them, but you can fly in, is my understanding. The EU-wide rules haven't started yet.
    Scogs
    this all looks very knee jerk to me
    cinzia
    I know someone who had their Marmite confiscated from their carry on luggage!
    Probably in one of those dangerous old glass jars, don't you know.
    Eleanor Rigby
    Was OG flying to the US?
    No the flight was to Beijing via Vienna on LH

    Anyway the signs are up but they aren't implementing it as of yet.
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