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Kaltenberger Knights Festival - medieval show

Three weekends, 6-28.Jul.2007 @ Schloss Kaltenberg

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Johnny English
I went on Friday to the annual Kaltenberger Knights Festival which is handy 'cos it is just up the road from me, but also happens to be the #1 for such Medieval events in Europe.

I was very impressed. Lots of great stalls, amazing costumes, lots to see, fantastic entertainment and thoroughly recommended that you go.

Slight downside is that it is pretty much too busy, and this ended up with me having a rather public row with some fellah. Basically the wife and I know that at around 7.15 the "parade" will start so we are wandering around this heaving mass of people at about 7pm wondering where it starts etc when...

This old german bloke with an Ozzy bush hat and ugly wife suddenly starts gabbing at me in Kraut. Now I have been to my lessons for six months, but he is too fast and too rude for me so the best I can say is "Ich verstehen Sie nicht". so he says quick as you like "OK which language?" and battle may now commence on an equal footing.

Actually I think at this stage he had just given away his advantage as I am around 30 years younger, 30 kilos heavier and whatever English he has learnt it is not going to compete with mine learnt driving in London traffic. Downside is that the spectators to our "modern-day-verbal-joust" are all square-heads so even when I win there is a chance they won't realise.

As it happens whoever wins I reckon I will be the long term moral winner because his ugly wife is attempting to disguise her face, as some German women do, by dying her hair that strange pink shade that a 15 year-old punk girl with attitude could probably get away with...but this sour-faced old bint never could.

But I digress and must get back to Crocodile Dun-D-Day and the pink pig. So I pretty much reply:

"Yes, I am English - what is the problem?"

and Herman replies (in pretty good English in his defence):

"Why dont you stand at the back? We have been standing here 20 minutes?"

and I am like:

"At the back of where precisely?"

and he says:

"We have been waiting here. You are English. Why don't you queue?". And the pig butts in with "He can't be English, he doesn't know how to queue".

(p.s. Congratulations if you made it this far)

So he gets it back between the eyes along these lines:

"Well I would love to queue if I had any idea where your fictitious queue starts or finishes. There are no barriers. There are no lines on the floor. There are no flags to mark a start or an end. There are no security guards, and in fact there is no queue - just people in all directions. Furthermore I don't even know what I am supposed to be queuing for or where it might be?".

At which there are a few giggles from the crowd, and Herman kinda mutters something along the lines of "Well I suppose so...".

To be fair it is the kinda tussle that could happen anywhere and in any language but I reckon I won. So Two World Wars, 1 World Cup and 1 Childish-row-in-a-crowd to us.

The Ritter Fest was great however, and I still like it here smile.gif In fact the irony was that I just had my letter published in a UK magazine talking about the good stuff - scan to follow on another thread if I remember.
Inflatablewoman
What a loverly story.
mothbola
rotflmao laugh.gif
UrbanAngel
I love Kaltenberg smile.gif Going twice this year and will be a Corvus Corax groupie wink.gif
Jimbo
Is it just me or does that horse appear to be jet-powered?

Oh, and well done on the arguing front - though you should always finish an argument with "You sir, are a wanker"
UrbanAngel
Is anyone going to the Gauklernacht on 20.07.06?
Renia
I was at Kaltenberger on Sunday, can throughly recommend it with children. Very well organised, friendly and fun. I had an extra child with me too and didn't lose any of them!
kitkat64
I went on Saturday, July 8. It started pouring down rain just as the show started and continued almost until the end. I was very impressed by the level of horse riding - these guys are unbelievable and the horses are even more impressive - not to mention that the men are extremely good looking.

It was fantastic. Highly recommended.
Renia
QUOTE (kitkat64 @ Jul 11 2006, 9:04 am) *
not to mention that the men are extremely good looking.



True, true... I was quite taken with the Black Knights, but then I am one for the bad boys...
Corcaigh
I've been going there also for years and can thoroughly recommend it. They change the story of the "Ritterturnier" every year so even if you've been before you can always go again !
Last year we couldn't get tickets up-front but went anyway and there were loads of tickets for resale (either from the counters or people holding them up before the entrance). If you plan to go leave plenty time to wander around the village...

I always wonder what jobs some of these people do when they are not in Kaltenberg.
UrbanAngel
They usually do other medieval markets and shows or reenactments. Some of them have normal day jobs though.

They change the story every year, yes, but it's basically the same smile.gif I can't sit through one of those shows anymore (at least not without a 3 yr gap) as 4 times is too many smile.gif

Looking forward to the Gauklernacht though, as I haven't been on one of those before - the market is open but instead of the jousting, it's just the performers, acrobats, musicians who take the stage.
Eleanor Rigby
I have friends who run a stand that sells swords, helmets and other paraphernalia. They have regular everyday jobs in Munich and take the time off work to make a little extra money.
kitkat64
But where do the riders and horses come from? A colleague says they come from a riding school in France. Surely, these guys don't have day jobs and the horse riding at that level is a just a hobby. What they were doing requires tons of training.
UrbanAngel
Yeah the actual 'knights' are from France. The head of the school is called something like Jackie or Jacques... there's info on the KB RT website I think.
Johnny English
I was there Saturday afternoon with the sprogs in the rain. Sunday was special family day. But for most people I would recommend going in the evening - nice atmosphere for after show drinks etc.

Oh yeah - and don't wear a yellow shirt 'cos it attracts the bugs that live in the woods.
kitkat64
QUOTE (Johnny English @ Jul 11 2006, 3:02 pm) *
Oh yeah - and don't wear a yellow shirt 'cos it attracts the bugs that live in the woods

That is exactly what my friend said on Saturday while we were there - they just followed the people with yellow or orange shirts. Weird.
UrbanAngel
July 2007 Dates:

Fri 6th (evening)
Sat 7th (evening)
Sun 8th (day)

Fri 13th (evening)
Sat 14th (evening
Sun 15th (day)

Sat 21st (evening)
Sun 22nd (day)

Fri 27th (evening)
Sat 28th (evening)

The Gauklernacht is on Friday 20th July this year and costs €19.

Website
myles77
are those times just for the show?I want to go for a wander around the markets on saturday during the day...will they be there?
Corcaigh
Yes, I believe it opens at 11:00 but you need tickets just to get into the markets. You need a separate ticket for the show if you want a seat. You can watch the show from a standing position if you can find a viewpoint but its a right pain standing for so long...
myles77
so where can I get the tickets for the market?Can I buy them there?
Burnside
Yeah, my girl and I were gonna check it out tomorrow. Is it too much for a 6 month lil' guy?
Burnside
And is it historically accurate that horses from that era actually blew fire out their arse?
Burnside
Just got back! We all had a good time. Really easy to watch the tournament with the El Cheapo ticket, too. The Black Knight lost again..surprise! I think this is entertaining for just about anybody. Plenty of shade from the trees, too.
UrbanAngel
Sorry, been away.

QUOTE (Corcaigh @ Jul 9 2007, 10:41 pm) *
Yes, I believe it opens at 11:00

Not necessarily; there are 2 types of events. The Tagesveranstaltung (daytime event) starts at 11:30am when you can enter the grounds, the jousting is at 3.30pm and the whole event finishes 7.30pm. The Abendveranstaltung (evening event) starts at 4:30pm when you can enter the grounds, the jousting is at 8:30pm and the whole event closes at 12:30am.

Three are 2 types of tickets - Geländekarte are those just to enter the grounds and medieval marketplace, the other ticket is to actually have a seat reserved for you in the arena (which I've been told seats 13,000 people) to watch the jousting show. Of course there is a 3rd type of ticket for the one-off Gauklernacht where the performers, artists, acrobats and musicians perform, but that's already been and gone this year.

QUOTE (myles77 @ Jul 11 2007, 12:34 pm) *
so where can I get the tickets for the market?

I bought mine from the ticket counter at Marienplatz.

QUOTE (Burnside @ Jul 14 2007, 2:36 pm) *
Is it too much for a 6 month lil' guy?

Not sure quite how conscious babies are i.e. if he'll enjoy it, but it's usually pretty busy so whilst your son may be ok, his parents may get stressed trying to push past everyone with a pram! By the way, if you were thinking of watching the jousting, the website says that "Kinderwagen können nicht mit in die Arena genommen werden. Abstellplätze für Kinderwagen beim Sanitätsdienst vorhanden (unmittelbare Nähe zur Arena)." - prams may not be taken into the arena. You can leave them by the first aid places near the arena.

Now I have a question of my own smile.gif I'm going by SBahn this year - usually I go by car. There's a shuttle bus service between Schloss Kaltenberg and the Geltendorf train station, however it seems that the last shuttle bus runs at 11.30pm. The event finishes at 12.30am and I plan on staying till the end. Does anyone know of any alternative service how to get back to Munich? Does anyone know how much a taxi would cost (a) from Kaltenberg to Geltendorf, and (B.) from Kaltenberg to Munich Marienplatz? Is there even a taxi stand close by?

Any info much appreciated!
LittleSprite
QUOTE (Burnside @ Jul 14 2007, 2:44 pm) *
And is it historically accurate that horses from that era actually blew fire out their arse?

Only if they had curry for breakfast. unsure.gif
UrbanAngel
I called the Kaltenberg hotline (as advertised on their website) and the lady gave me 2 telephone numbers for the shuttle bus companies. The service is no longer free; they charge €1.50 each way. The 2 companies responsible are:
Schnappinger 08806 7095
Schneider 08191 1494

They both gave me varying information as to when the last bus runs, but the general impression I got was that the last bus was at around 1am, or half an hour after the event finishes. They were quite unsure as to the SBahn times and event times though, and I had to correct their information they gave me, so I'm not too sure how right these bus times are. Basically there is no strict timetable; they just wait until the bus is full with people then they go.

So has anyone ever gone by SBahn/bus? Are they full? Worth going early? Thanks!
UrbanAngel
I had a great time on Saturday - perfect weather! Started raining around 11pm but was great up until then.

Regarding the shuttle bus, the busses did NOT run until the end of the event/just after the event had finished. The website said that the last bus was at 11.30pm, however a sign on the shuttle bus itself said the last bus was at 11.50pm.

I decided to take the 11.30pm bus (€1.60 not €1.50) as the last SBahn went at 12.06am and I didn't see how the later bus would make it! We got there a bit earlier and joined the long queue; fortunately we managed to get in, but yes it's worth getting there earlier as there were lots of people waiting.
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