Kia ora, kei te peha koutou...?
I´m looking for Maori people in Munich and the Munich area!! Is there anybody outthere? Looking forward to hearing from you... ka kite ano...
Timmeh
Sep 9 2006, 3:06 pm
You speak great Maori for a Germish!!
Doing my best.. Been trying to teach myself Te Reo Maori for 6 weeks... Quite hard to find anyone who can help me... Any ideas?
I´ve spent 5 weeks with "my" band , a bunch of Maori, quite impressive, so I´m really into it now

...
Have a couple of basic Maori learning books here but as of yet have been too lazy to really get into them. (Should really get a handle on German first).
Another couple of resources I can think of are the
nz.soc.maori newsgroup where you can have online discussions in Maori and get help with Te Reo, and you can also watch
Te Karere online.
The only Maori I have actually seen here in Munich were tourists here for Oktoberfest.
Hutcho
Sep 10 2006, 8:37 am
How many Maori's can actually speak Maori?
Owain Glyndwr
Sep 10 2006, 8:40 am
6
According to wikipedia:
"MÄ?ori is spoken almost exclusively in New Zealand, by upwards of 100,000 people, nearly all of them of MÄ?ori descent. Estimates of the number of speakers vary: the 1996 census reported 160,000, while other estimates have reported as low as 50,000. The level of competence in the language of those claiming to be MÄ?ori speakers is unknown. The number of MÄ?ori-only speakers is likely to be very small indeed, counted in dozens, but the number of those who spoke MÄ?ori before they learnt English will be higher, because MÄ?ori persists as a community language in isolated settlements in the Northland, Urewera and East Cape areas. The MÄ?ori language effectively ceased to be a living community language in the post-World War II years when there was a period of rapid urbanisation of the MÄ?ori population. The language's status has been compared with that of Irish, as a minority language in an island nation of 4 million threatened by increasing use of English."
I dont agree with the "nearly all of them Maori descent" bit, sure most of them will be, but a lot of teaching and government jobs require certain levels of Maori so a lot of
Pakeha can speak it too.
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 9:45 am
Cheers Kza... I´ll have a look...
I know, it´s pretty useless to learn Te reo actually...

Another language you don´t really need in your maintenance history...
Well, I see how far I´m gonna get...
Is there a Kiwi community in Munich?
QUOTE (Kata @ Sep 10 2006, 10:45 am)

Is there a Kiwi community in Munich?
Not really, the kiwis I know here seem at least as likely to hang out with non-kiwis as other kiwis.
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 10:01 am
I see... Hard to catch up with anybody from Aotearoa...
cabbagefairy
Sep 10 2006, 12:08 pm
Ki ora! Well from what I've seen Maori is only really taught if you are of Maori desent and your family speak it or as a way to kill a few hours in school. It is not spoken by many european New Zealanders at all so is more exclusive to situations either at traditional Maori events or family. Although NZ just got a Maori TV channel..Shame hardly anyone has any idea of what its saying
It should be compulsory at school really.
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 1:21 pm
Ja, I agree...
All the traditions as well, like kapa haka or Taonga Puoro etc...
On my tour with "Moana and the Tribe" a new project came to our mind.. the two haka-guys have been doing a school project in London, which includes kapa haka performance and different workshops kor the kids.. So the idea is to bring them over to Germany and do a few workshops in schools in Munich... Have talked to a few schools who are interested already, what do you guys think? Is it worth a try?
UrbanAngel
Sep 10 2006, 1:23 pm
I'd be interested in improving on my poi skills!
And who could turn down some
Taiaha lessons?

Heh this threads gone and got me listening to
Poi E now... And I will have to dig out my Herbs and
Prince Tui Teka cds after that.
Timmeh
Sep 10 2006, 3:39 pm
QUOTE (Kza @ Sep 10 2006, 1:09 pm)

It should be compulsory at school really.
I thought it was? It was compulsory at my schools...I also accidentally took it as a University course in my first year. Teach me to enrol whilst stoned.
Timmeh
Sep 10 2006, 3:41 pm
QUOTE (Kata @ Sep 10 2006, 10:01 am)

I see... Hard to catch up with anybody from Aotearoa...
If I remember correctly from my last
KVR visit, there are 95 of us in Munich...which means I know around 10% of the entire Kiwi population here
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 3:46 pm
ok... Seems like they´re hiding quite well... But I´m sure they´ve gotta come out of their den for the Oktoberfest...
Oktoberfest IS our den, or should I say, pen.
ruapehu
Sep 10 2006, 3:49 pm
ah, but in the 95 you don't account for the many of us living here on British passports - now there area at least 96 of us, I suspect many more.
Hi, Timmeh, by the way I am also a north-shorite -Glenfield, later Browns Bay
(but, shame on me, I also don't speak any Maori)
Timmeh
Sep 10 2006, 3:50 pm
Next door neighbour then, I'm a Birkenhead boy.
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 3:57 pm
Hehe..

See ya at the fest then!! Have you tried the Bavaria Bräu already? Good place to party on afterwards.. Walking distance from the beer tents...
Timmeh
Sep 10 2006, 3:59 pm
You can walk after O'Fest? Sounds like you're not trying hard enough!
Kata
Sep 10 2006, 4:01 pm
Well, I´ve always ended up there, no idea how I got there actually, but I´ve been told it´s not that far...
cabbagefairy
Sep 10 2006, 6:50 pm
First thing the travel agent told me when she heard I was coming to munich was not to wear underwear anywhere near the pen or it will get ripped off...are us Kiwis really that crazy?
Timmeh
Sep 10 2006, 6:51 pm
This is true, but it's not just a Kiwi thing...it applies across the board to anyone wearing gruds in the pen
Renia
Sep 10 2006, 6:53 pm
I have been wondering how that works... do they frisk everyone going in

?
No you will get frisked at some stage though. Feel free to wear some underwear coming in, you just wont be wearing it on the way out, aloisius will be.
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