gills
Sep 8 2006, 5:01 pm
QUOTE
VATICAN CITY — Pope Benedict hit out Friday at Canada for allowing same sex marriage and abortion, saying they result from Catholic politicians ignoring the values of their religion.
“In the name of tolerance your country has had to endure the folly of the redefinition of spouse, and in the name of freedom of choice it is confronted with the daily destruction of unborn children,� the Pope told a group of bishops from Ontario.
Oh the horror! Imagine an entire nation having to cope with all that tolerance and freedom.
That man's values are utterly, utterly repugnant. Talk about institutionalized bigotry. It's shameful.
Toronto Star article
Crawlie
Sep 8 2006, 5:13 pm
QUOTE (gills @ Sep 8 2006, 6:01 pm)

That man's values are utterly, utterly repugnant. Talk about institutionalized bigotry. It's shameful.
Has it ever been any different? Not just this man. His predecessors were of the same mindset.
I really cant see mainstream bavarian catholics accepting this sort of thing when he comes here, surely he will have to tone things down, wont he?
On the other hand, if the local bavarian catholics do in fact think along the same lines as him, it would be pretty interesting being there hearing them applause this guy, talk about sending shivers down my spine...
The popes some fag. jesus!
this was not meant to insult people who are homosexual. The word fag was used as cheep humor of little intelligence and should not be taken seriously. I also apologize for potentially grouping anybody with the pope, nobody deserves that
Johnny English
Sep 8 2006, 5:43 pm
Ahhhh. I do like a bit of good old pope bashing.
perdido
Sep 8 2006, 5:47 pm
I am currently raising an army in his Holiness name. Canada has been asking for it with its health insurance for all and "look with have no crime " arrogance. Pompous bastards.
"Blame Canada!, Blame Canada!"Proof that the Pope and Satan AND Saddam Hussein, really are in cahoots after all!
Zeppelin
Sep 8 2006, 5:56 pm
Wouldnt that include most americans? dont they blame canada for a lot of things? BSE comes to mind... or am I just misinterpreting cross-border antagonism for scapegoatism..?
gills
Sep 8 2006, 6:00 pm
well, don't blame us for the Pope!! ;-)
perdido
Sep 8 2006, 6:01 pm
Holy Hosers
No, the Ami's are blaming us now for selling drugs over the internet (Bush says they are substandard and trying to make it illegal) and illegally bringing fruit into the country!
Well, so the Pope has issues with us now! Fine, we can impose a Visa on him now!
eurovol
Sep 8 2006, 9:18 pm
QUOTE (Crawlie @ Sep 8 2006, 6:13 pm)

Has it ever been any different? Not just this man. His predecessors were of the same mindset.
Actually, this Pope is different. Ratboy sent out a message that if any Catholic voted for John Kerry, they would be commiting a sin because Kerry is pro-choice. Ratboy also wrote some of the most repressive prelates in like forever. JP came down on the side of evolution being a part of the divine plan and now ratboy wants to pursue ID and go back on some of the stuff JP did.
Hazza
Sep 8 2006, 9:21 pm
Well you can see the result of Canada being so tolerant - what with all the crime and the anarchy in the country. It's obviously so eroded the country as an attractive place to want to live...
gills
Sep 8 2006, 9:44 pm
I figure the pope has watched other religious fundamentalists sucessfully grab political power and wants a piece of the action. Nothing like insulting an entire nation to grab some headlines -- and invite contempt.
As for the "blame Canada" thing, it comes from a song in a South Park movie and is supposed to be ironic. Canada has a pretty positive image around the world, while the US -- right or wrong -- generally doesn't at this point in time. A very few people actually take it seriously, either because they're jealous or witless. But that's ok, then the joke is on them
QUOTE (Hazza @ Sep 8 2006, 10:21 pm)

the result of Canada being so tolerant - what with all the crime and the anarchy in the country

Now that's the weirdest statement I've seen yet!
gills
Sep 8 2006, 10:08 pm
The comments to the
Globe & Mail (national newspaper) article on it are a great read.
It was a tough pick, but this is my favourite:
QUOTE
Thank you Pope. You can now retreat to your medieval city state and ponder your next crusade.
QUOTE (Zeppelin @ Sep 8 2006, 6:56 pm)

BSE comes to mind... or am I just misinterpreting cross-border antagonism for scapegoatism..?
No, just mixing up cows and goats.
perdido
Sep 8 2006, 10:50 pm
Or comparing Nova Scotia versus Vancouver
Grinner
Sep 8 2006, 11:44 pm
QUOTE (Johnny English @ Sep 8 2006, 6:43 pm)

Ahhhh. I do like a bit of good old pope bashing.
Not as much as you like Bashing your Bishop... apparently
Hazza
Sep 9 2006, 7:09 am
QUOTE (gills @ Sep 8 2006, 10:44 pm)

Now that's the weirdest statement I've seen yet!
It was supposed to be sarcastic...
@gills- I read some of the comments there on the G+M page, wow, people have come back fighting. Love it. Makes me proud to be a Canadian.
meckle
Sep 9 2006, 7:01 pm
QUOTE (gills @ Sep 8 2006, 9:44 pm)

I figure the pope has watched other religious fundamentalists sucessfully grab political power and wants a piece of the action. Nothing like insulting an entire nation to grab some headlines -- and invite contempt.
As for the "blame Canada" thing, it comes from a song in a South Park movie and is supposed to be ironic. Canada has a pretty positive image around the world, while the US -- right or wrong -- generally doesn't at this point in time. A very few people actually take it seriously, either because they're jealous or witless. But that's ok, then the joke is on them
Now that's the weirdest statement I've seen yet!
Clearly the american gene for not getting sarcasm has spread north of the border...blame...uh i dunno...george bush
iain
Sep 12 2006, 3:01 pm
Just got an email from south of the border from a none tter who read my post and got insulted this is a very odd world we live in.
BadBob
Sep 12 2006, 3:16 pm
QUOTE (gills @ Sep 8 2006, 6:01 pm)

“In the name of tolerance your country has had to endure the folly of the redefinition of spouse, and in the name of freedom of choice it is confronted with the daily destruction of unborn children,� the Pope said.
The Pope is right again.
Carm
Sep 12 2006, 3:53 pm
Only in yours and Pope's opinion there Badbob.
I am proud to be Canadian. Even more when we keep pissing off people like Bush and the Pope with our 'liberal' laws.
BadBob
Sep 12 2006, 4:02 pm
QUOTE
'They do not see the real threat to their identity in the Christian faith, but in the contempt for God and the cynicism that considers mockery of the sacred to be an exercise of freedom,' he warned.
'This cynicism is not the kind of tolerance and cultural openness that the world's peoples are looking for and that all of us want. The tolerance which we urgently need includes the fear of God - respect for what others hold sacred.'
-Pope Benedict XVI, Munich, September 10, 2006
boomtown_rat
Sep 12 2006, 5:15 pm
QUOTE (iain @ Sep 12 2006, 4:01 pm)

from a none tter who read my post
how can a 'non TTer' read your post? I would have assumed that anyone who uses the site could be classified as a TTer. I guess you could limit the definition to members and then I might just let you get away with it
Yeti
Sep 12 2006, 5:20 pm
Can the mods please change the thread title to "Man in a dress whips Canadians".
Thank you.
Carm
Sep 12 2006, 5:25 pm
@boomtown- I read its as 'another' with a typo.
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Sep 12 2006, 6:15 pm)

how can a 'non TTer' read your post?
Maybe it was a 'nun TTer'.
Hazza
Sep 12 2006, 5:28 pm
QUOTE (BadBob @ Sep 12 2006, 5:02 pm)

The tolerance which we urgently need includes the fear of God - respect for what others hold sacred.'
So everyone has to respect what the church stands for, but of course the catholic church doesn't have to be tolerant towards anyone else.
Typical...
Carm
Sep 12 2006, 5:34 pm
and the Catholic church should 'respect' my rights to marry my lesbian lover and have an abortion.
perdido
Sep 12 2006, 5:35 pm
QUOTE (Hazza @ Sep 12 2006, 6:28 pm)

So everyone has to respect what the church stands for, but of course the catholic church doesn't have to be tolerant towards anyone else.
Typical...
Hazza, Hazza, Hazza, tisc tisc. I like Notre Dame football. And the CFL sucks

Although Canada does produce some nice hockey players.
What was the subject again?
Carm
Sep 12 2006, 5:37 pm
QUOTE (perdido @ Sep 12 2006, 6:35 pm)

And the CFL sucks
Hey we got BIGGER BALLS!
JerseyBoy
Sep 12 2006, 5:42 pm
The pope can lash out at whomever he wants. It won't make me listen any more. He might as well be Osama Bin Laden.
Allershausen
Sep 12 2006, 6:19 pm
The pope can lash out at whomever he wants. It won't make me listen any more. He might as well be Osama Bin Laden. Proof that the Pope and Satan AND Saddam Hussein, really are in cahoots after all!
Well he's probably living in this Cahoots place, it's in Saskatchewan I think!
iain
Sep 12 2006, 6:22 pm
well they both wear dresses don't they. (osama and sep)
by non tter what was meant was someone who is not a member however uses my posts to keep an eye on me. I think I might actually have to change my username to remain more anonymous.
Carm
Sep 12 2006, 7:12 pm
you are being stalked by a lurker!
that is nasty.
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