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Chavs in Germany

Germans mimic Britain's peasant underclass

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HelterSkelter
Seems like Damien-Rio-Brandon and Mercedes-Aalyah-Johannisburg are getting some coverage by the German media.

Stern magazine: Botschaft: "Frisch geklaut"

Sie tragen gefälschte Markenklamotten, mögen tiefer gelegte Autos, HipHop und blauen Eyeliner. Die so genannten "Chavs" hängen in Parks und Busstationen herum. Großbritanniens selbst ernannte "Underclass" erobert die Teenieszene der Insel.
Is chavism gonna spread to Germany now? Don't we already have German chavs? What is characteristic about these "German" chavs? What are their attributes?
Owain Glyndwr
We certainly have German-Turkish chavs, if you ask me. A bit like a cross between chav and hip-hop.
Jenny L
That'd be the Proll, wouldn't it? Or is it different?
stanford
Jenny_L,

Yes it is just a slang for shitty working class*. To be honest it is a southern word and nothing new...in the North we call them scallies... Funny how words create a media interest even though these people have existed for years...

I wonder if they watch the news the Chavs and scallies and realised that the world is taking the mick out of their style. But alas if you grow up in one of these areas your kids seem to think that the style is okay; my nephew loves the scallies style...

*The Hip-Hop connection is a red herring as they have their own version of sports wear which is more like an updated shell-suit than really hip-hop gear. Especially as they don't wear them baggy but relatively tight...and the bottom of the shell-suit bottom are not flared (which in my opinion looks terrible)...
Owain Glyndwr
Yep, Prolls are very prevelent in the Cologne and Ruhrpott areas.
Lassie
I saw a chap on the u-bahn this morning sporting reebok classics, adidas trackies and sweater. He was wearing a plain white cap but the underside of the peak was burberry check. He was also wearing two gold earrings and a large signet ring. And he was (white) German (he was carrying a copy of Bild). He got on at Poccisstr and off at Obersendling.

It was a proud moment for me to see a proper German chav.
HelterSkelter
My number one chav item in Germany (apart of the obligatory gold chain of course) would be the "van Dutch" trucker-cap.

A chav is a Proll, but a Proll not necessarily a chav... but similar!
MonksTown
Jenny L is pretty much right on the button.

Even the liberal-ish German meejah freek if aspects of "Ausländisch" street/youth culture become attractive to "pure" German youth becasue God forbid they be picking something up off the "kanacken" rather than forcing "Leitkultur" on them.
Owain Glyndwr
The Hip-Hop connection is a red herring
depends whether you are talking about scallies or the German-Turkish equivalent of chavs, i think. the latter really do seem to have a bit of a hip hop theme going on.
stanford
@Owain Glyndwr

Correct but that is more of an Ally G stuff...which to me isn't a chav...or a scally as most of the Scallies in the North aren't into Hip Hop nor are their bredwin in Essex...

The German Turkish Hip-Hop or Brit Asian Hip-Hop trend in my humble opinion shouldn't be mixed up with Chavs...Sorry to say it guys but Chavs/Scallies style is generally a white working class phenomenon (can't spell that)...
HelterSkelter
Even the liberal-ish German meejah freek if aspects of "Ausländisch" street/youth culture become attractive to "pure" German youth becasue God forbid they be picking something up off the "kanacken" rather than forcing "Leitkultur" on them.
It's funny on the accent though... I sometimes have difficulties to understand the youngsters, cause suddenly all if them seem to speak this german-turkish-ish accent...
MonksTown
Some hip-hop fans are quite posh mind and make a big effort to be "down wiv da ghetto Y00t!".

If you handg around outside Erste Liga at the Sendlinger Tor end of the Müllerstrasse there's probbly more people from Solln there than BunnyMountain.

I sometimes have difficulties to understand the youngsters
Cup of TEA, granddad?
HelterSkelter
Tell ya... start feeling old sometimes!
Jenny L
Yep, Prolls are very prevelent in the Cologne and Ruhrpott areas.
Yeah, you get a lot of it in and around Mönchengladbach.

Funnily enough I never heard the word "Proll" in East Germany.
HelterSkelter
Funnily enough I never heard the word "Proll" in East Germany.
Cause that would have been totally so not PC in a socialist country. Proll is short of Prolet, which again derives of the latin word "proletarius" which was the name for the roman underclass.
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