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Logging of topic title moderation

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OhFFS
Wouldn't it be nice if when a moderator changed a thread title the fact was acknowledged in the thread (similar to a thread merge)? Preferably saying which moderator did the change so that appropriate action can be taken with an axe handle. smile.gif

I wonder how long I'll have to wait before the title of this thread is changed, probably casting aspersions on Grinner's parentage so that next time he drives through Neukeferloh he actually parks outside my house and blasts on his horn until I come naked to the window and shake my fat hairy fist* at him?

* Oh come on! Please! Show some decorum! What did you think I was going to say?
Editor Bob
Topic titles are updated with the best of intentions - to make the forum as useful and as easy to navigate as possible.

Of course the moderators are only human, so they do sometimes make mistakes. If anyone feels a mistake has been made they should use the report function to request that a title change is either reverted or further refined. Title change complaints that are posted deep within a thread of discussion are likely to go unnoticed - the moderators can't and don't read every post.

Remember, in order to avoid having a title changed you should ensure that your original title is accurate and that it clearly reflects the content of your post. Not only is this a courtesy to other readers, but it will also increase the number of readers and replies to your topic!

Vague and deceptive titles will always be changed. For further info see: forum topic titles.

As for logging of title changes, it might be an idea. The feasibility of this is now being looked into.
the vicar
If I may do some serious creeping...

I've had my titles changed a few times and my posts altered or added to. However I could see there was logic to it and it made for a better read.

God bless you, Bob!
dimmer
Sucking up is not a nice hobby, vicar. Even if you are right the eternal teenager inside of you should have stopped you from posting this post. tongue.gif
the vicar
Quite right. Bob, you're a cunt.
dimmer
Now you're talking. Very brave. You can always sign up as 'the thorn bird' if your account is deleted.
DivaRae
I feel violated... had no idea how heavily "moderated" (I think a better word is "edited") this board was. Recently, I posted looking for a tango partner, and made it clear in the title of the thread that I didn't want anything romantic. A moderator changed the title, so that the thread was then looking for dance partners and tango schools (I'm not looking for tango schools, and if the moderator is, they he/she can start his/her own thread!) and I felt that after the change, it was less clear that I didn't want any romantic involvement, just dancing.

Then, I posted a question about noise problems and a harrassing neighbor. This thread was merged with another old thread, which was aggravating in that my "enable email notification of replies" was gone. I did still get a few helpful replies, but I still felt that my question was different enough that it warranted its own thread.

I just feel like my words and intentions are taken and twisted without there being any mention that someone else changed them. I really, really wish that there was at least some acknowledgement when a moderator makes a change. I think that making changes to people's posts should be a last resort, not a matter of course. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.
Keydeck
Rather than posting about it you should take your objections directly to the moderators. They will either explain to you why they changed something or if a mistake was made, change it back. Posting about it just looks whingy.
BadDoggie
Perhaps it would be possible to start a sticky Meta thread listing title/topic changes along with the originals and perhaps the reasoning fr the change when not painfully obvious. This would mean a bit more work for the mods though. I have to grudgingly admit that in many cases, their choices are for the overall good.

If you seriously disagree with a moderation change, report the thread and make your case.

woof.
Crawlie
Not sure why you are moaning about the singing topic one... You were asking about noise levels, complaining neighbours and your rights...

Your thread was merged with - "Noise levels and neighbours who complain, Info about the law and your rights"... Now, call me an old fuddy duddy but surely your question was placed into the correct topic n'est ce pas?
the Boy From Bozlem
Or just stick the original Fred title in the top of the first post. wink.gif
Malcolm Spudbury
Topic title moderation log

Hutcho
This is good. I've just had a look, and I'm gonna have to say that the mods are over moderating.. for example:

3 Lions Diamond-tini a slightly ever so expensive cocktail!
changed to
3 Lions Diamond-tini An ever so slightly expensive cocktail

What the hell? There are plenty of other similar examples..
Yeti
The Modurai search for the perfect Chrysantheum.
gideon
QUOTE (Hutcho @ May 3 2007, 2:22 pm) *
This is good. I've just had a look, and
3 Lions Diamond-tini An ever so slightly expensive cocktail

I must admit the modded version is better... Heck the Mods look at it in a different manner, a bigger picture. Mine get whacked about all the time, so what. If the whole meaning has changed then report it, nicley, and the mods will do there magic. I was happy though when they left Mr Yabba Dabba Doo is Yabba Dabba Dead as a title. I really put some effort into that one.

Live with it, the Mods do this for free, so let them get their evil kicks out of watching us get really upset. I met a mod once, took me weeks to recover.
Lexicon
Yeah I can't think of the exact threads, but I've had three or four where the title or subtitle was changed enough to completely lose the initial intent of the thread. There was one where I ended up being harangued over my thread. I finally noticed the subtitle had been changed to something the exact opposite of the original.

I have to say if there is any doubt as to meaning I wish the mods would pm the thread starter before making changes. I know we're not all the most articulate at times, but it would be nice (since our names are on them) to make sure our original intent is maintained.
Rilana
When they've changed the titles I've found it to be for the better so far... not really see it as a problem - unless of course it changes the context. I do agree that it being noted somewhere that it was changed and from what would be useful, but Ed Bob said it was being considered so...
Keydeck
Rilana, see the Topic title moderation log as Spuds pointed out above.
Rilana
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Aug 25 2006, 6:54 pm) *
As for logging of title changes, it might be an idea. The feasibility of this is now being looked into.

So why did Edbob say that?...if it already exists...what I'm referring to is the change being noted on the actual thread.
Keydeck
He said that last August. Things change. As for it being written on the actual thread, I don't really see the point. Presumably most people who start a thread have a look at it afterwards and should notice if something is amiss. They can then simply check the log and/or PM to moderators about it.
3 Lions
I was modded! ohmy.gif I feel so violated! sad.gif
Scogs
I get modded on a frequent basis and like it smile.gif
Rilana
ok...sorry to have asked!!!

It was just a thought...like the little grey note that informs us of a topic having been merged, if it were the same automatically for thread titles having been changed then there would possibly be no need to contact the mods with complaints anymore as it's clear that the change wasn't made by the thread starter...it was an idea to poss make lives easier.
Keydeck
QUOTE (Rilana @ May 3 2007, 3:54 pm) *
ok...sorry to have asked!!!

Don't be. rolleyes.gif
Lavender Rain
QUOTE (Editor Bob @ Aug 25 2006, 7:54 pm) *
Of course the moderators are only human

Not superhuman? ohmy.gif
Yeti
Moddom goes beyond terms like "human" and "super".

(oh and you can mod yourself, but it doesn't get talked about much)
UrbanAngel
Hehe this looks like war!

Topic title change between Berlinender, who firstly doesn't seem to understand that there are certain formats, especially when writing dates and secondly doesn't seem to realise that Editor Bob is, in fact, GOD! Or maybe someone was just feeling insecure and wanted to strength their ego in a fight they couldn't win.

WAR
zaebos
Which idiots keep chaning my thread titles? Wankers.

Topic split: Washing machine problems
Kay
The very owner of this very forum. Any other questions?
Gen
http://www.toytowngermany.com/xtra/scripts...title_mods.html

http://www.toytowngermany.com/xtra/scripts...edit_stats.html

http://www.toytowngermany.com/wiki/Forum_topic_titles

QUOTE
Topic titles, when well formulated, make the chat forum easier to browse and easier for information to be retrieved via the search function. It is for these two reasons that care should be taken when writing the title for a new topic. Let's suppose you're ill, you are in need medical assistance, and you have turned to TT for information and advice...
Example of a bad topic title: HELP!!!
Example of a good topic title: English-speaking doctors in Berlin - personal recommendations for a GP

Can you see the difference?
zaebos
QUOTE (Kay @ Oct 28 2008, 4:02 pm) *
The very owner of this very forum. Any other questions?

Sure, why does he feel the need to edit and change suers posts and titles, which kind of goes against the spirit of the concept of a forum.

No, it is just unnecessary redaction.
Hammonia
That's your personal opinion - I think it does make a lot of sense as your thread titles were absolutely useless for seeing what the threads were about.
Personally, I appreciate a more informative thread title so that I can see if it's of interest for me, or not.

You come across quite self-important making so much fuss about it.
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