astro_rabbit
Aug 14 2006, 10:58 pm
Can someone decipher this for me? Too many "had"s for me to understand.
James, while John had had "had", had had "had had"; "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.
UrbanAngel
Aug 14 2006, 11:06 pm
James and John must be in some kind of grammar exercise lesson.
John wrote as an answer 'had'.
James though the answer was 'had had'.
The teacher thought 'had had' was the better answer.
Showem
Aug 14 2006, 11:06 pm
James and John wrote a grammar test.
John wrote "had" in one point. At the same spot, James wrote "had had".
The teacher preferred the answer "had had".
Much more difficult for people if you don't punctuate first.
Jenny L
Aug 14 2006, 11:11 pm
One One was a race horse, One Two was one too. One One won one race. One Two won one too.
Small Town Boy
Aug 14 2006, 11:11 pm
While what was written in the first post is supposedly grammatically correct, the following sentence is grammatically correct and understandable, although still nonsense really:
While John had had "had", James had had "had had". "Had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.
cinzia
Aug 15 2006, 9:12 am
Or you could be creative and not use "had" for every verb. Drives me nuts sometimes. People should say they "ate" something for lunch, and not that they "had" something for lunch. Then you avoid the problem of too many "hads."
In the case of this example, you could substitute the very fine verbs "to write", "to use", and "to make" in place of some of these "hads".
It's a good tip if you deal in English with non-native speakers very much. Break the "had had" habit!
sarabyrd
Aug 15 2006, 10:02 am
Then why the hell did Haggis junior's teacher insist on them learning to say "Mr. Taylor is a taxi-driver. He has got three taxis."? Why the frigg not "He has three taxis."?
McClellan, a young Scottish laddie,
Said to his Gran while buckling his pladdie,
"I just had a dish
Of unco' guid fish!"
What had he had? Had he had haddie?
cinzia
Aug 15 2006, 10:05 am
QUOTE (sarabyrd @ Aug 15 2006, 11:02 am)

Then why the hell did Haggis junior's teacher insist on them learning to say "Mr. Taylor is a taxi-driver. He has got three taxis."? Why the frigg not "He has three taxis."?
Because Haggis Jr.'s teacher was instructing him in Englisch, not Amerikanisch.
sarabyrd
Aug 15 2006, 10:08 am
Which goes to prove that America has indeed done much for the English language. Even my resident Brit would never say "has got".
cinzia
Aug 15 2006, 10:10 am
No kidding. I used to choke on "has got" when I had to teach it to my Biz English students!
leky
Aug 15 2006, 11:41 am
maybe he had had had a stutter!
plastic
Aug 15 2006, 9:45 pm
Wenn Fliegen hinter Fliegen fliegen, fliegen Fliegen Fliegen nach.
hams
Aug 15 2006, 10:00 pm
QUOTE (sarabyrd @ Aug 15 2006, 11:08 am)

Which goes to prove that America has indeed done much for the English language. Even my resident Brit would never say "has got".
I care to disagree.
One
has got a cold and that cold worsens, and once it has worsened it
has got one in bed so that one cannot partake of one's daily duties and thus,
has got one to be an insufferable invalid!
American English is in no way an exuse for lethargy when it comes to the Queen's English.
clepto
Aug 15 2006, 10:02 pm
Why is it "has got" and not "has gotten"?

edit: ahhhhh...nevermind!
astro_rabbit
Aug 15 2006, 10:42 pm
gotten is American usage, Engish don't use this term any more
Hutcho
Aug 16 2006, 8:32 am
I really hate when people use gotten, I read Clintons book it was through the whole thing. Its "got" for fecks sake.
Further to that "got" is a word which really should be avoided in my opinion. There is always a better word which would fit in its place.
don_riina
Aug 16 2006, 8:36 am
QUOTE (UrbanAngel @ Aug 15 2006, 12:06 am)

James and John must be in some kind of grammar exercise lesson
James and John must have spent too much of their lives staring at strobe lights.
astro_rabbit
Aug 16 2006, 9:38 pm
James had had "had", while John had had "had had". "had had" had had a better effect on the teacher.
Now it all makes sense. Got this from a tounge twister URL.
I can only string 3 hads togeather, if you include present and pst particples.
It was brass monkeys, so I have had to have the heating switch on last Monday night.
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