More Brits than ever consider emigration

BBC News: More Britons target foreign move

"more than ever"
"little change"


Better quote the next sentence too:

well damn, and I am trying to emigrate TO England.

Perhaps it is all us Americans moving there causing the mass exodus.

Doesn´t surprise me that people want to leave Britain, considering what Tony F**king Blair is doing to the country!

It's a dumb leading question with a dumb answer. The only interesting data would be the numbers that HAD actually emigrated. Asking people that question will always elicit a knee-jerk "protest vote", and depending on who you ask, what time of year, you will get higher and lower responses.

For me it doesn't really represent that more people want to leave, or are about to leave - it is just a political "we are not happy" vote.

Although having never really "lived" overseas until now, it has been 2.5 years since I left and my attitude is that the UK is now an interesting place for a holiday but I don't think I could live there again!

I think its probably not even that. Purely a 'grass is greener' syndrome

or even "weather is not quite so damp"

I wouldn't discount the survey quite so quickly. For all the people I know that have left the UK to live elsewhere, only a fraction have returned. Most vow never to return (at least those I have spoken to). I think the weather is a big put off, as is the social state of the place, especially the crime figures. Of course traffic, overcrowding and cost of living also add to peoples' woes.
Not that the UK is a bad place to live, but I have to say there are definitely better places to live, if only for the weather, which is quite important I think. I don't want to spend my life barracaded in my house becuse it is too cold/wet to step outside.

Just been watching a programme on the BBC about English hooligans in Germany for the world cup. at least an hour long but they certainly werent short of footage. if thats the way english people behave after a few beers i dont blame normal people for moving away

I was just about everywhere where England played, and 99,9% of the English fans were very well behaved.
It's Scots like u who really get on my wick, although I'm from Northern England I've never been to Scotland because it's full of too many prats like u. Firstly we all know that Scots are just as rowdy after a few Beverages as the English. Secondly u very rarely here about Scottish Hooligans because your team is full of whisky drinking, red headed midgets never qualify for F all.

Emigrate, but where to???

"All around the world I am running running, I can't find my love, my life, my peace???"

Okay, now... le me tell u smthn, my friend has lived there since one year now and he says:
"Júlia, don't come to visit me in winter cause it's cold and damp, you'll get arthitis. Don't come in April, cause it's damp and stormy, you'll get flu. Come in the summer, I'll tell you when, or better, don't come at all, cause I...me... I wanna be out of here as soon as I get the chance!"

Soo, what should one think, then? It's an island, a damp and cold island, after all...

i vote for schotte for this year's nobel peace prize for his work on anglo-scots relations

Why would he think you'd get all these ailments. Are you ill? If he hates it so much why stay.

I for one am happy I came back. There are pros and cons to anywhere you live. When the cons start outweighing the pros then that's the time to upsticks and move on rather than whine about it. Of course I would like to live someone sunny all year round, but who wouldn't.

I'd think your friend doesn't want you to come visit, is what I'd think.

Anyway, last time I was in England, there were also a few TV shows airing about buying houses and property cheap in places like Bulgaria and Croatia. Fuel to the emigration fire?

Don't get me wrong fellah. I am not disagreeing that the UK is turning into a shithole. Just that this particular question and survey is flawed.

They did a UK programme called "No Turning Back" where they paid people to make a test move overseas, but the programme was dull 'cos no-one EVER wanted to move back.

nobel peace prize?

no you mean

el prize nob piece

ah, it's early gideon, my brain needs to warm up so i got the syllables in the wrong order. thanks for the correction.

It may be fuel, but not as far as Romania is concerned, as I know. Law doesn't allow for that... a foreigner private person cannot buy land or property on the territory of Romania. However, a company registered as Romanian - can. But if someone tries to cheat, they will be caught by the authorities asap, I am sure.

By the way, everything Romanians manage to save here in WE they take it home and buy/build a house or land at home on it. That's what most of expat Romanians do or will do.
It's nothing new, actually.
That's what my great-grandfathers did, around the turn of the century... I read their letters home...

But that's all to change when they join the EU. It's actually not that difficult to set up a company there and buy property. And the best time to do it is now as house prices are expected to rocket by 50% from next year.

As Andrea said, it will change once Romania joins the EU. Not only that, but the minute it joins you and everybody else will find out just how many foreigners have ALREADY managed to bend the rules.

and what *is* he doing then UN? Don't like Blair myself but last I looked the UK was doing pretty well.

I think thats overstating it a bit. I think sometimes people equate various bits of the UK to the UK as a whole. Personally I'd be mroe than happy living in the British countryside (or would I? 10 years since I left - can't have completely changed can it??)

Nuff said.

well I was there until exactly a year ago and go back once every month and would say that the word 'shithole' doesn't apply to the vast bulk of the country and the whole country is considerably less depressed and more boyant than Germany or France.

which Firm were you in then?

99.9% is a bit of an exageration.

glad you haven't visited Scotland we don't want your sorts anyway.

There was a scottish flag in every stadium for almost every game of the world cup cos scots still do go across. maybe im just reading the wrong papers but i never heard of any of them getting arrested.

May 2003: 85 000 celtic fans in seville, no arrests. finito.

english, dutch, german, poles are in the premier league of arsehole fans

can I assure you that Schotte is very much one of a kind. The rest of the country is considerably less bitter and smallminded thank goodness.

I've read an article in the Daily Mail about this problem and I can understand the Britons.

My best friend has to be operated on her back and there's no specialist who could reduce the risk of damaging a nerve so she doesn't have to fear to be paralysed.

That's only one fact. The cost of living seems to be quite expensive regarding to the statements of my friends over there.

One said: "Our primeminister is a snob". Seems that Tony Blair will be able to drive all Britons away from their home country.

This article in the Daily Mail a week ago was also uite interesting because I'm still thinking of moving to the UK but I'm not so sure anymore. Well at least I've some months to consider whether I want to do it or not.

Maybe Germany isn't as bad as I thought...

This won't be of any comfort to you or to your friend, but in such operations the risk of damaging a nerve exists whatever the country and however competent the surgeon.

Well, there was a lot of corruption going on, I wouldn't be amazed to find out...
And, let me be honest, I wouldn't mind foreigners coming in... I am also a minority in my own country, anway,,,,, I cannot fingerpoint at other minorities, new immigrants or anything, as it wouldn't be fair.

There are a lot of Italian and Austrian companies buying land in masses nowadays... I don't mind, as long as they bring development to those areas they populate, they are welcome.

But when I see certain gold diggers - yes, gold diggers, as-you-hear-it - moving an entire town out of its place, demolating dozens of churches, and using the bulldozer over an old Roman historical archeology site - talking about the Rosia Montana area and the ambitious companies (won't give name coz I don't wanna get my family exterminated before I return home), when I see them wishing to set up an open-area goldmine with cyanide technology (toxic, risky, all the sht you can imagine), then I say, as the German would say: HALT, hold on a second, cause this is NO DEAL!

But, don't worry, the gold digger company is not from UK, not even from Europe. They are from another continent. One may think they went over there only to come back and steal what is not theirs. Respect thy neighbor is more of a policy in Europe than elsewhere...

You're right but he said he has never done such a surgery before cos she couldn't find a specialist for back surgeries. That's the problem. He's a normal doc without any experience I think.

In Germany you'deasily find a specialist. That's why I'm so worried

I wouldn't place too much faith in what the Daily Mail says if I were you

No-one should have to accept that. Get another doctor. I'm not saying there are loads of specialists but they do exist.

thankfully the rest of the country is more like me than you. but oh yes you can tell so much about me from what i choose to post on an internet forum full of presumptuous twats like yourself! hooray.

I'll go to England one day to find it out by myself, that's for sure. Yeah the media control us and our behaviour. I guess in Tthe Sun the whole situation is close to armageddon Fortunately I don't read it.


Yeah I'm searching for a specialist in Merseyside. Maybe I can come up with a solution and convince her to go to someone who really knows about that stuff.

Don't forget the system is very different in the UK. Small specialist practices do not exist as they do in Germany. You have to be referred to a specialist (consultant) by a GP. The consultant will work from a hospital or maybe a clinic. You can't just pick up Yellow Pages, look one up and book an appointment.

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=N...iserable_people

The big fella speaks the troof.

I wanted to experience living and working in another country from about 1983. I can recall taking a holiday in Italy in '86 and coming back to Thatcher's shithole and thinking, "I want out", but apart from two years evening courses in Italian nothing really happened until '92 when I got this long contract consulting to the chairman of a big-ish company up in Bielefeld. Up to that point Germany had never been an option. In the course of that contract I lived for a short while in San Jose and for a longer while in Chicago (San Jose is boring as ferk, but Chicago was partyland for a blues lover). I didn't say, "Oh! Munich looks nice. Think I'll move there". I came because that particular avenue of industry that I was going down was here. I still get homesick. But, the funny thing is, less than 24 hours after I've landed in Blighty, I ain't homesick anymore. Strange, but true.

And as for Londoners Are Most Miserable People... Fack Oft!!!

Man are you guys slow, the USA figured out England was a shithole a couple of hundred years ago. That´s why we had the revolution. All the smart Brits that have already emigrated are now called Americans.

BadBob displaying his 'How to win friends and influence people' technique.

It wasn't the "smart" Brits that went to America -- it was the religious zealots. The results are clear for all to see.

I've just finished reading a book about water development in the Western USA. When the "Smart Brits" in America started moving westwards, they coincidentally did so during period of several wet years. These religious freaks believed that the "Rain follows the plow" -- that wherever they went, God would send them enough rain to survive. Surprisingly, this isn't actually true. The result was the Dust Bowl -- establishing a cycle of short-term gain followed by destruction that America has never since managed to learn from.

So, what was that about "Smart Brits" again?