Salary levels for various jobs in Germany

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im considering a relocation to munich and i want to know what is the income tax % that will be applied to my salary? is it different for international worker with limited contract?

I work for a public relations firm and am from the U.S. I have been offered an opportunity to live in Munich and act as a PR resource to one of our clients. I have four years of PR experience and speak fluent German. My employer has offered me a salary of almost 32,000 euro and in addition to that they will pay for rent, utilities, insurance, phone/Internet, moving costs, health insurance and tax consultation in the U.S. and Germany? The total package will end up being around 45,000 or more. Is this a competitive package for Munich? My understanding is that that IRS will count living expenses, such as rent/utilities, phone and Internet as income so that is where I am coming up with the 45,000 euro.

IRS publication 54 should become your friend.
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p54/

Hello Everybody !

I really appreciate this forum and I have to thank everybody for their very useful information that helped me a lot.

Now I have a question. I apologize in advance if this question has already been answered but I couldn't find it myself.

So, I was offered a job contract in Germany. The jobs position is web development envolving ASP, Javascript, HTML, DHTML technologies. I have an yearly salary of 36k per year. I mention the fact that I have a 2 years experience of web development, but on the PHP side. I am new to ASP (so I will require some adjusting). Anyway, besides the usual question if this is a good salary for a single person to manage in Germany and still make savings (which has been answered more or less in these threads), I would like to ask about a salary clause that i have in my contract.

So my early salary is divided in two parts:
32k Grundgehalt.
4k Gehaltszulage

Below this line there is the following statement:

Mit der Gehaltszulage sind bis zu 10 Mehrstunden pro Monat abgegolten.

I don't understand this line exactly. As far as i understood it, it is like this: The 4k per year are given to me, but for that money i have to be available 10 extra hours per month.

Have I understood correctly ?
Is this an usual clause in the German contracts ?

Thanks in advance for any answers. I have to give the answer very soon so any quick answers are very very welcome

I am going to graduate PhD in engineering. Apparently, I have got a job in a big german industry as a postdoc position in research and development department. I have no idea about salary in Germany. How much should I go for? How to negotiate with the company? and any tips for such thing?

For my background, I graduated B.Eng. from Thailand, two diploma in Engineering and Physics from France and going to graduate PhD in Engineering from Germany. No work experiences, marital status is single.

Does anyone could give me approximately salary and what should I be aware in the negotiation in my case?

Many thanks in advance.

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Hi there,
I am a Canadian living/working in the UK who has been in discussions with an American company for a HR (compensation & benefits) Specialist role in Munich.
Interviews have gone very well and I have been requested to go to the Munich offices for the next round, however we have not yet discussed salary levels - they did mention relocation and language courses would be provided. Can someone give any guidelines on salaries in Munich for such a role with 4+ years experience working in Canada and the UK?
I get 50.000 GBP for my current job in Greater London, which is at a specialist level. In doing some looking around the internet i would say 65000-70000 Euros is what my expectation would be...

Your help is appreciated.

OH, and does anyone know if i would still require a VISA to work in Germany if married to an EEC national? My husband is Swedish and here in the UK, via him i am able to work/reside in the UK even if my passport is still Canadian. Is this the same in Germany?

Thanks!
Ana

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Average salary levels in Europe

Thanks!

@Eurovol - although your post on the previous thread is quasi-relevant, I don't think it answers Le Banane's question(s). She is clearly a HR specialist, and you post addressed just HR post-entry level. In addition, she also asked about her work permit question. So "asked and answered" I think is misleading.

@Le Banane - unfortunately, I don't have the answers to your questions specifically, but I am hopeful someone else will come along and be more helpful. Regarding the work permit, I know from anecdotal evidence that my Italian friend has no problem getting her Argentine husband a residence and work permit based on her being a EU national and them being married. So perhaps that is hopefully good news, but you should check further. Perhaps your American company can check it out...?

Thanks Leeza - after some more research, i note that via my hubby i will be able to work/live as any EU country member (i.e. same rights), so shouldn't have any issues on that front ;-)

I am moving to Germany.

I will work as a Process Engineer in the Automtive industry.

I have been given an offer. I would like to know what is the average salary in Germany or what salary will offer me a comfortable life?
I am 31 years old and not married. I know I will loose 50% to taxes. I just would like to know what people my age make as Engineers or ?? so that I can compare my offer.

Please help

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Try using the search function before starting a new topic like this.

Depends on how many years experience, whereabouts in Germany etc etc, but somewhere between €40k to €55k would be my guess

I found this salary survey for jobs with "business" in the job title on "Spiegel-online"
It's in German. However, if your are able to read you pay slip in German you should be able
to understand this article.
http://www.spiegel.de/unispiegel/jobundber...,558018,00.html
Average numbers for a PhD 48T€, masters degree 44T€, diploma 41T€, Fachhochschule 38T€, Bachelor 36T€.

Hi everyone,

I have a possible job with Areva (nuclear reactor company) in Erlangen, and I have been asked for my salary expectations. The position is for a materials scientist/engineer. I am going on 27yo, I have a PhD, and will also have completed a 1-year post-doc by the starting date. I recently applied for a similar position in Switzerland and they offered CHF 98,000 (about 60,000 €). This is whas the figure I have Areva at the interview, but I really don't know if salaries in Switzerland are comparable. Am I in the ballpark? Before anyone asks, yes I have trawled through the threads on this forum, but its hard to generalise about these things. Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

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Good afternoon!

I've just moved to Munich and I find it strange that when there is a job offer (on the internet, on a paper) there is no mention of the salary. I have been told by a German friend that this is normal in Germany and you are supposed to "negotiate" your salary during the interview. I have no clue what the salary range for a secretary is.
I have 6 years secretarial experience in a medium size company.
Could anybody give me an indication of what my salary range would be (I understand it depends on the company, etc...but this is just to get a rough idea)
Thank you!!!

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check here, maybe this can help you: http://www.sueddeutsche.de/jobkarriere/erf...rchAction=abisz

otherwise try to find the website of "Kienbaum" which is a German head-hunting company who has all kind of surveys on salary published.

Cheerio

Hello all,

I might have the opportunity to get a job in Frankfurt as a consultant/analyst for a financial consulting firm in Frankfurt. I'm have a really hard time pinning some numbers down on Google... lots of adverts but no salary ranges. A little bit about me, I'm mid-thirties with a Phd in physics. This is a new field for me so of course that enters in the estimate.

If anybody is familiar with the Frankfurt job market, I would really appreciate some information.

Best regards

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85-90K euro gross annual salary seems like a reasonable offer to ask.

Wow... I was hoping for 65k. I can't wait to find out what happens. Thanks

Well, I think it depends on which company it is... but 95k seems a bit high to me... I couldn't find any English websites stating salaries, but from what I see 75K would be a fair amount - that's pretty much what some managers get (if they are not CEO of Deutsche Bank or Dresdner or so). For reference.. here the websites I did find:

http://cocomore.rtl.de/gehaltsdb/
http://www.stern.de/media/pdf/gehaltstabelle2007.pdf

But it really depends on what company and kind of job it is. A 70 hours per week job is better paid than the 9-5 one ;-)

Id be suprised if salaries go that high considering its a new field for you and one that your phd has nothing to do with? However I also do not know the field.

Work out benefits with them though. Remember anything over 52152 is taxed at 42% instead of 15% so if there are any benefits the company can give you it might be worth it.

For example if you think you will spend more than 1700 euro on trains per year in germany for work, local trains in frankfurt, free time, intercity and so on... then you would benefit much more from a salary of 52000 and a Bahn Card 100 worth 3600 than you would from a salary of 55600. All your trains would be free everywhere in germany and you wont be losing 42% of that 3600 in tax. The company also benefits as it wont be spending % of that 3600 in medical insurance and employer tax for you.

so sit down and have a think about what benefits, if any, you would benefit from and work them into your request.

As I understand it, most benefits are taxable anyway so you don't get around it that way either.

Further to that, Germany has a sliding scale for tax. There are no levels that you talk about. For example, you might pay 25% on the euro you earn after 50,000, then the next euro you earn will be taxed at 25.00001% and so on.

Whoever does your taxes for you is doing a splendid job

I think the numbers Hutcho provided were just an example, what he meant is that it does not work as Maudbid said.

Although like Kreig says, I just guessed the figure and was using it as an example, after further investigation it turns out my guess was pretty spot on. See the graph below from Wikipedia.

People have to remember that taxes themselves aren't very high in Germany. What kills you is the 5% Solidaritaetszuschlag + 3% unemployment insurance + 9.5% pension + 6-7% health care.

Works that way for me like i said it. Also my own Bahn Card 100 is not taxed.

Hi,

I've read through this thread and others in the forum but I am still confused. It seems most people asking in here are qualified professionals which I am not.

I've been told by friends that I should expect a salary of about 8 euro an hour for an english teaching job. I dont have a firm offer from the company interested yet as I am not in Germany, will be there in 2 weeks.

If I get the job, I'll be based in Dortmund as an Englischdozent. The job is 30-50 hours a week. I have no qualifications for this role apart from being a native english speaker, the company knows this though and have said all I need is to be a native speaker.

My question is, do you think 8 euro an hour is acceptible? It seems horrendously low. My previous salary in Perth, Western Australia equates to just over 10 euro an hour for full time work. I dont want to price myself out of a job so I'd like opinions as to what range I should ask for. I'm 31 years old, currently single with no kids but I will need to be able save money to move the rest of my belongings as well as my pets.

€8 per hour? You will never survive. Ask for at least twice that amount.

Of course EL treachers get paid more. But it seems to help to be here to seek the chances out - foot in the door, familiar with German society, known quantity etc. Simply having English as a native tongue is never going to have a particularly high value.

It's not as if it has to last forever anyway. I know people that started on very low money and moved on. As a route in, 8 Eur per hour might be the best that some people get. Plenty of immigrants struggle to find paid work at all of course.

It's a glass half full vs half empty one in other words for some people. Better than nothing surely as route into another country in some cases, surely? Not everyone has the luxury of a well paid profession or a job lined up on arrival. Of course 8 Eurs an hour is very poor but what's the alternative for some?

(None of this is excuses duff pay rates of course but we all have to play our own hand).

Let's say it like that, i know plenty of people who'd love to get 8 Euro per hour - in Germany.

You really know about this country.

@Sandrita: I cant ask for double that, I've been told that fully qualified teachers get €15 per hour.

I was thinking of asking in the range of €8-12 per hour. My main concern is, would I be able to survive on this for 30-50 hours a week? I dont know what the cost of living is over there, I've found travel to be expensive but I dont know about anything else. I'll be paying €70 a week for rent and utilities, all I will need to pay for is food, travel, etc. I wont have a car (no where to park it!) so I'll be using a lot of trains.

Well, a €8 salary of course doesn't allow you to just hop on a train at will and ride around Europe, that should be clear.

With €8 and 40 hours, you'd get about €1300 before taxes and about €800 after taxes and insurances. About €500 after rent, about €400 after food and regular expenses. You'll likely need some sort of local transport pass to work anyway, leaves €300 for other amenities. Or €100 left at that point if you work 30 hours. Could be €100 extra if you save here and there. Anyway, in the first case with 40 hours, eat out a few times during that month (McDonalds counts), go out every now and then, maybe buy some clothes - and you're at zero.

That's what you'd be looking at. It's definitely enough to survive, but not exactly luxurious. Day-to-day life, not much of a problem, especially if you can budget. Have a large expense, broken washing mashine, new TV or something? Problem.

Also, in the lower-paid classes: Ask for 10, you'll get 9. Or in this case, ask for 10-12, or they'll stiff you with 7.50.

Thanks kato, that makes sense.

Hi, I am new to this forum and I have a couple of questions. I currently live in DC and my husband has an interview in Bonn. He has 15 years experience and several degrees ( MBA and Law ) he is unsure what is a typical salary in Bonn. Is it typical in interviews with German companies to discuss salary requirements in the initial interview? If so, are there any resources that list typical German salaries by industry and position?

I am looking forward to potentially relocating to Germany. Sounds like it will be adventure!

Thanks

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Hi,

I've been offered a job in Düsseldorf and was wondering what salary I should ask for. I am an electronics Engineer, and have 5 years working experience and a Masters...

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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Have you read through any existing threads on the subject? For example, typing the word "salary" into the search box (top right corner) gives you plenty of reading material: Salary.

Happy reading, and good luck!