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A brief history of Apfelschorle

Adelholzener - a Bavarian brand

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georgiagirl
Before I moved to Germany, the last time I drank apple juice was when I was six years old. As an American adult I considered it something to be consumed by children out of a cup with a lid and a spout.

Now, at age 26 and living in Munich, I've found that Apfelschorle - an approximately half-and-half mix of apple juice and mineral water - has become my favourite beverage. Specifically, I like the Adelholzener brand, which is fitting since they're headquartered in Munich.

According to the company website, the Adelholzener Alpenquellen belong to the Sisters of Charity of Saint Vincent de Paul. 100% of company income after operating costs supports the convent's institutions and projects such as hospitals, nursing homes, homes for the sick and elderly, and other social projects. The congregation's mother house was built between 1837 and 1839 in the Nussbaumstrasse, near Sendlinger Tor.

The actual facility for Adelholzener Alpenquellen is located at the foot of the Bavarian Alps, in the town of Siegsdorf. They produce 'healing water', mineral water and soft drinks. The 'healing' properties apparently originated 1700 years ago, when a Roman missionary, Primus, discovered the water source. According to the legend, Primus - who was later canonized - used the curative effects of the water and the power of the Christian faith to heal the sick.

If the folklore doesn't convince you, apparently the effectiveness of Adelholzener Healing Water has been certified by the Federal Institute for Drugs and Medical Devices in Berlin. It's diuretic, stimulates metabolism, helps to prevent both kidney stones and mineral nutrient deficiency, and can aid the treatment of chronic diseases.

But back on topic - I love Adelholzener Apfelschorle, mostly cos it comes in a variety of delicious flavours. I'm particularly keen on the Kräuter Apfel and Sport Apfel Limone varieties, but if you want to try them be forewarned: they're not particularly easy to find. I first discovered Kräuter Apfel in the MiniMal at Bonner Platz, but have yet to find it anyplace else - including the MiniMals on Tal and in the Funf Höfe, and the Galeria Kaufhof on Marienplatz. I stumbled across Apfel Limone in my local Getränkemarkt, and haven't yet seen it elsewhere.

I assume these 'special' varieties may be in somewhat limited distribution, so if you see a bottle, seize the opportunity and grab it. It might just cure what ails you. Oh, and pick up an extra bottle for me while you're at it.
Lupo
I love Schorle as well. FYI all Mineralwasser have to be bottled at the source and with the "ursprüngliche reinheit". The Schorle market has been in the plus for several years now and there´s money to be made here. Adelholzener is known to be a mild Mineralwater (total minerals = 487.8mg/L) as opposed to say Apollinaris with 2650 mg Minerals /Liter.

Heilwasser or "Healing Water" is a peculiar German classification. It however is on the decline. Heilwasser should not be confused with Mineralwasser, those are 2 different classifications. The Healing Water you mentioned is certified because all Healing Waters have to be certified by the government. There has to be "proof" of therapeutic benefits. It´s kind of like an over the counter medicine, and has to meet many of the same requirements - look at the label and you´ll see what I mean.

Adelholzener Healing water has the following ion concentrations:
Sodium = 4.6 mg/L
Potassium=0.5
Mg=31
Ca=94
Cl=3.6
SO4=10
HCO3=430
NO3=4

What are the ingredients listed on your bottle of Schorle?
georgiagirl
Ah, a fellow Schorle fan! I must confess, I was just being cheeky with my last statement. There's no evidence that Apfelschorle has any healing properties, though I do find it a particularly good hangover remedy. Totally unscientific of course smile.gif
Lupo
A schorle fan I am smile.gif

But it gets me how powerful the Mineralwater industry is here in Germany. I guess it´s good cause they keep a lot of people employed, including many brewers believe it or not. My main gripe is the lack of available drink water in restaurants etc. It´s always a hassle here to ask for a simple "Leitungswasser" and almost a social fopah. I also think there must have been an agreement made between the Mineralwasser companies and public buildings - there are no water fountains in Germany! One of the first sights that I see when I step off the plane in the US is a beautiful ordinary water fountain. Water for free - did you hear that one? And, the tap water here in Germany is actually very good, both in taste and also in mikrobiological stability. I´m convinced the majority of Germans don´t know how good the normal tap water is. In fact, it´s better than some Mineral waters IMO. Depends of course what you´re looking for. If you want a lot of Sodium for e.g buy an Überkinger, it has a concentration of 1.09 g of Sodium per liter (Adelholzener has 10mg!)
Topsy
nice bit of advertising for Adelholzner there
do you work for them or summat? tongue.gif
Elfenstar
QUOTE (Lupo @ Jul 19 2006, 1:28 pm) *
I´m convinced the majority of Germans don´t know how good the normal tap water is. In fact, it´s better than some Mineral waters IMO.

tap water is more closely regulated than mineral water. buying mineral water is an old tradition in germany that the krauts are not willing to give up. when you can think of how much money you would save...
admittedly, i buy a few bottles of medium everytime i go to the shop just so i can make my own "shorle" at home (usually o-saft or now the red multi-vitamin. mmmm).
georgiagirl
Funnily enough, I'm not crazy about mineralwasser. I like nice, un-gassy drinking water. I particularly hate that bottled Ja! crap. Must be an American thing.

But pour a bit of the fizzy stuff into some apple juice and I'm totally sold.

@ Topsy
Nope, I don't work for Adelholzener, but they are more than welcome to send me a complimentary gift basket if they so desire - with Kräuter Apfel, please biggrin.gif

@ Lupo
I'm totally shameless about asking for tap water (leitungswasser).
Lupo
The prickly feeling on the tongue does it all the time. CO2 makes any drink seem "fresher".
Lupo
QUOTE (georgiagirl @ Jul 19 2006, 1:36 pm) *
But pour a bit of the fizzy stuff into some apple juice and I'm totally sold.

Girl, you´ve got to discover Radler then!
Allershausen
QUOTE (Lupo @ Jul 19 2006, 1:28 pm) *
there are no water fountains in Germany!

Actually there are an increasing number of shops here that have free water, from those big water cooler things, the ones with a big upturned bottle of water on them.
Lupo
What an easy job - in a nutshell, you bottle water from a spring and sell it. Maybe I should start bottling Munich water and sell it overseas!
Malcolm Spudbury
QUOTE (georgiagirl @ Jul 19 2006, 12:50 pm) *
But back on topic - I love Adelholzener Apfelschorle, mostly cos it comes in a variety of delicious flavours.

I quite like the Rote Schorle.
Eleanor Rigby
Big fan of Hollunder-Birne here.

Answer me one question though, why must they use glass bottles? It's impossible to transport these things anywhere, they're heavy and take up way too much space.

I've noticed the plastic bottles slowly appearing which are much more convenient but our Getränkeautomat still carries only the 0,7 l glass bottles which not only make all sorts of racket when they plummet down to the retrieval slot but also require a packhorse to lug my required daily water intake up to my office. mad.gif
Lupo
The future is plastic, specifically, PET (Polyethylenterephthalat). Most AFG companies are switching or have allready switched. There´s either Mehrweg (recycleable or oneway.) They´ve been trying to do it with beer as well but it´s had limited success so far (thankfully!) PET has advantages and disadvantages, the biggest pro is of course it´s light weight. But all these new machines cost money. Eventually though, I predict your bottles will be plastic as well.
Catastrophe
QUOTE (Lupo @ Jul 19 2006, 1:28 pm) *
there are no water fountains in Germany

???

There are 75 public fountains in Munich, with perfectly drinkable water. There are none so blind...

http://www.swm.de/de/produkte/mwasser/wass...serbrunnen.html
Malcolm Spudbury
QUOTE (Lupo @ Jul 19 2006, 2:23 pm) *
The future is plastic, specifically, PET (Polyethylenterephthalat).

Link to the English language wiki entry: Polyethylene terephthalate.
Lupo
QUOTE (Catastrophe @ Jul 19 2006, 2:28 pm) *
There are 75 public fountains in Munich, with perfectly drinkable water.

Like #35, the Fischbrunnen am Marienplatz?! Go ahead and drink my friend. Just because they´re hooked to the Munich water supply doesn´t mean that I´d go drink from that Brunnen. The supply is clean, is the brunnen? Also, I´d say any big building in the US has as many water fountains.
Lupo
In fact, even the water in every toilet is mandated to be drinking water, per TVO (TrinkWasserVerordnung)...
banny
The 'Lift' brand of Apfelschorle comes in a mixed apple-grapefruit version and is also quite good.
Lupo
I like the taste, however I don´t like the fact that it has preservatives in it (Benzoic acid.)
Yeti
I think the tactic is to drink the water as it is being poured into the well as against slurping in out of the pool part. Should be safe enough.
Lupo
It is good to know. I may try some myself and scare the tourists.
Elfenstar
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Jul 19 2006, 2:03 pm) *
Answer me one question though, why must they use glass bottles? It's impossible to transport these things anywhere, they're heavy and take up way too much space.

my edeka sells these in plastic bottles (0,5 & 0,7). getränkemarkets like their glass except perhaps for the water (evian, volvic, etc.). i've actually stocked up on the 0,5. cost me .59 cents there as opposed to 1.60 EUR at the kiosk.

QUOTE (banny @ Jul 19 2006, 2:46 pm) *
The 'Lift' brand of Apfelschorle comes in a mixed apple-grapefruit version and is also quite good.

"lift" is too sweet for my taste.
mere
i love it that the people i work for each month have crates of Adelholzener Alpenquellen Apfelschorle, the water, and other juices, bier, drinks delivered smile.gif

the only one that comes in plastic is the apfelschorle.
jg.
I'm not a fan of Apfelschorle and have found that no matter how many times I say "pur" and not "schorle", I always get bloody apfelschorle! Also, it seems uncommon to have fresh apple juice here in Germany - do locals just not like it or what?
Elfenstar
QUOTE (jg. @ Jul 19 2006, 5:11 pm) *
Also, it seems uncommon to have fresh apple juice here in Germany - do locals just not like it or what?

not all places carry apple juice. and a lot of places have premixed apfelschorle.
grazzenger
since mrs grazz 'fell pregnant' (love that daft phrase) she's been on a schorle tasting mission. she can't even look at an apfelschorle now but rote schorl, johannisbeerschorle, grapefruit schorle and many home made concoctions provide a bit of variety. i think she's looking forward to the oktoberfest just a little bit and being allowed to have a whole, real beer again! she also drinks quite a bit of becks alkoholfrei which has come out top of her alkoholfrei taste survey with lowenbrau, surprisingly wink.gif, wedged firmly at the bottom.
Hans Albers
I would advice pure mountain stream water for Mrs. Graze. wink.gif
Lupo
QUOTE (jg. @ Jul 19 2006, 5:11 pm) *
Also, it seems uncommon to have fresh apple juice here in Germany - do locals just not like it or what?

What do you mean by "fresh apple juice"? Do you mean unpasteurized juice of apple?
gopher
I agree that Roteschorle is yummy. It's made with Aronia berry and Apfelschorle. Aronia berry is red choke berry in English. anyone ever heard of it before?
jg.
QUOTE (Lupo @ Jul 19 2006, 6:33 pm) *
What do you mean by "fresh apple juice"? Do you mean unpasteurized juice of apple?

Fresh pressed apple juice, not dicked about in any way and stored in a fridge. You can buy it back in Blighty in Tesco, Sainsburys and the like but I have not seen it here.
Yeti
100% apple juice, non dicked

This is just one local brand, there are a bunch of others.
Small Town Boy
It's no problem getting unfiltered (trüb ) apple juice in Germany, but fridge-fresh as found in the UK is harder to find. There's a stall at the market in Freising that only sells apples from their farm, and they sell fresh apple juice when in season.

I love Apfelschorle made with unfiltered apple juice; somehow, Schorle made with filtered apple juice makes me thirstier than when I started huh.gif
Allershausen
Thats because it looks like a beer, your brain thinks its getting a beer, so even though you drink it your brain still wants the beer! biggrin.gif
Lupo
Or for the DIY crowd, find a juicer and make your own fresh apple juice!
rolypoly
just to tease you guys a bit further.

Have you ever gone to the supermarket and buy some elder flower sirup (Hollunder blueten sirup) and mix it with mineral water - mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

do i need to say more ;-)
Small Town Boy
Some crazy communists even make the elderflower syrup themselves!

Elderflowers - Recipe tips
Bart
Apfelschorle is THE drink for curing hangovers, that's healing enough for me! smile.gif
Puffinstuff
Hi Apfelschorle fans! That is a very tasty drink but one thing has puzzled me and it concerns the plastic or metal top. What is the purpose of those little thingys hanging off after openeing the bottle on the cap? blink.gif Almost sliced my finger up on the metal part once. Do any other Apfelschorle drinkers know why?

Thanks for the history Georgia Girl!
Bart
It's like a seal...it keeps the top on until opened and it's a guarantee that nobody f*cked with your drink smile.gif
eurobabs
Just saw the Kräuter Apfel at the mini mall near me - next to Nordbad.

The absolutely best apfelschorle I have had is the one I make myself at home all the time. I buy the "albi" apfelsaft (the one with the red apple on the front, not the green apple - is the lighter color one) (I buy this at mini-mal) and mix it with Adelholzener classic bubbled water.
HEM
When I first came to Germany I used to drink lots apple juice
undiluted - now I find it doesnt quench thirst...

I love Apfelschorle but dont like the pre-mixed.
I prefer to get a bottle of good apple juice & mix it 50-50 with
fizzy mineral water. Grrreat thirst quencher. Particularly
after a long day...

Red Schorle (eg with blackcurrent) is also nice at times...
Johnny_who?
@ georgiagirl
since you're really into that "Kräuter-stuff", you might wanna try Almdudler. It's an Austrian lemonade but I think you can get it in Munich as well. In Austria you can either get the normal Almdudler or the Gschpritzter Almdudler, which is an Almdudler-Schorle.
Showem
Almdudler is available in regular supermarkets now.
planetmoni
in austria you also get "himbeerkracherl": very little home made raspberry syrup mixed with sparkling water... delicious and full of childhood memories... rolleyes.gif
i have never seen almdudler in munich ... edit: maybe i haven't looked properly...
Showem
On the shelves at Tengelmann this week, in the regular drinks section.
georgiagirl
@ Johnny who?, planetmoni
Almdudler does in fact exist in Munich - a friend of mine, knowing my fondness for Kräuterapfel, brought me a bottle of the Almdudler Kräuter-limonade just a few days ago. It was purchased in my local getränkemarkt.

I had Almdudler for the first time about a year ago, in Innsbruck. Tasty stuff, that.
planetmoni
i am getting old, i just remembered i bought some bottles myself a year ago... wacko.gif
planetmoni
i just googled kracherl, it is more common to mix orange juice with sparkling water but where my mum comes from it is traditionally made with raspberry.
Editor Bob
Cloudy Apfelschorle is better for you than clear. I've always preferred the taste of the cloudier varieties anyway.

BBC News: Cloudy apple juice 'healthier'

QUOTE (BBC News)
Polish scientists found the levels of antioxidants which protect against heart disease and cancer are almost double in cloudy apple juice.
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