FIFA world rankings

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England are now up to 5th behind France, Argentina, Italy and Brazil
Germany have moved up to 9th
USA are now down to 16th
Australia are up to 33rd
And Scotland...couldn't find them!

Try 41st
At least this new ranking is realistic.

With England at 5th!!! Give me a break!!

With the US 16th and Germany 9th. Break granted.

Wales up 16 to 58. Well fukmi!

Yeah, still 8 places before you are as good as Uzbekistan

England 5th?

What for? Beatin T&T?

So the UK is 23rd, mathematically.

Let's end this special "historical" treatment bullschit once and for all.
(Who are the cream of the Rangers, anyway?)
Or give California (or Bavaria) a FIFA franchise.

And it will happen Wee Mun, just mark my words.

With the Republic of Ireland in 39th sounds about right..

But how come, England is on 5th spot?

Well, since the US just vacated the 5 spot and England is now in, I can only guess that this is the traditional FIFA slotting for over-ranked English-speaking countries. Maybe next year Canada will be #5.

Talking aboot Canada. How the hell did Canada jump 29 places into 54th place overall, ahead of Wales, Belgium, and Trinidad and Tobago...while playing only 5 games in the past year? They don't even have a coach now...Of course they beat Luxembourg and Cuba who are extremely dangerous, which might account for their rise in the rankings.. Now I know FIFA's rankings are shit.

are you pissed everytime you come on here? i keep reading these posts and dont have a ruddy clue what the hell you are on about!

"cream of the Rangers"???

are you trying to make a point that the UK should have just one national team? this has been discussed before so maybe you can search it if you are bothered.

FIFA rankings have always been crap!! I wouldnt mind, these are the revised rules rankings!!

No, the UK if it had a joint team would be at least as high as it's highest current member country.

Maybe FIFA are being smart and saying England should have been #5 if we hadn't had that twat SGE

in that case england should have been 1st.

(maybe )

Try the ELO ratings, which do a mathematical analysis of match results to make "better" results than the way FIFA does theirs.

1 Italy
2 France
3 Brazil
4 Argentina
5 England
6 Netherlands
7 Spain
8 Germany
9 Portugal
10 Denmark
11 Czechia
12 Switzerland
13 Sweden
14 Uruguay
15 Romania
16 Mexico
17 Ireland
18 Australia
19 Croatia
20 Turkey

http://www.eloratings.net/

At least I like what it does for Australia!

An intersting take on the 'logic' of the new FIFA ranking system.

Well it still doesn't make sense

Uruguay was 22nd before the WC, and now it's 14th
So we got a lot of points for playing (and winning) so many friendly games while everyone was heading to the WC.
Or maybe, no performance is better than a bad a performance in FIFA's system, and so we got a lot of points for not sucking at the WC .
It's OK, the ranking is not important and has no rewards, so they can keep calculating it as they want.

Its a new rating system. That's why Uruguay moved up. Has nothing to do with the world cup ...

Yes, it's a new system; I would have thought that Uruguy was gonna go down with the new system (hoping the new system made more sense). I find it a bit crazy that we are above Ecuador and Paraguay who eliminated us to qualify to the WC, and Ecuador made it to the next round...Ecuador is 28th. So it seems very unfair.
The ranking of your rival counts a lot, and since we haven't lost to Brazil in the last [a lot of] games, that has given us way too many points. I'm guessing that's one of the reasons.

But again, who cares about this ranking? It's just another useless stat for commentators to use when presenting the teams.

5th??? How much did that cost?

15th would be realistic, but 5th???

...well having reached a world cup quarter final I'd expect them to be somewhere between 5th and 8th.

So, by the same logic how do the Germans get a 9th place ranking?

The rankings are over based over 4 years, and as Germany did not have to qualify, they are missing these games. England had to qualify, then also made it to the Quarters.

Although I must admit, these rankings are a little strange.

I find the rankings far better than the old ones, even if the new seedings still seem to favour the South American teams a touch more. I don't want to take anything away from Brazil and Argentina but we saw at the WC that the other South American countries aren't in their bracket.

It's not surprising to see England 5th after they went out in the Quarter-Finals of both Euro 2004 and the World Cup.

Germany is lower because they didn't win a game in 2004. Obviously, the performance at the World Cup can't make up for ALL of that.

So how come Portugal is 8th...? Don't need to remind you they beat England in both tournaments and played a good qualification for the WC?

From FIFA:
The host nations of major tournaments only contest friendly match for a certain period. As a result, they may fall in the world ranking.

Yeah, but there's no extra points for artistic impression

yes they were brilliant against Liechtenstein IIRC (although admittedly England lost to N Ireland)

South Africa 72... I did not realize we suck this much at Soccer. It is true what they say then, you DO learn more about your own country in a foreign country !

1. Portugal's poor showing in the 2002 World Cup.
2. The lack of qualifying games for Euro 2004.

I'm sure that if England and Portgual have similar qualifying campaigns for Euro 2008 the Portuguese will gradually overtake England in the rankings.

OK, can someone explain 11-14 to me? Just being curious!

Just looked up the England stats from since after the European Championship:

01 Jul 2006, England 0 - Portugal 0 at Arena Auf Schalke, Gelsenkirchen, World Cup.
25 Jun 2006, England 1 - Ecuador 0 at Neckarstadion, Stuttgart, World Cup.
20 Jun 2006, England 2 - Sweden 2 at Rhein Energy Stadion, Köln, World Cup.
15 Jun 2006, England 2 - Trinidad & Tobago 0 at Franken Stadion, Nurenberg, World Cup.
10 Jun 2006, England 1 - Paraguay 0 at Waldstadion, Frankfurt, World Cup.
03 Jun 2006, England 6 - Jamaica 0 at Old Trafford, Manchester, Friendly.
30 May 2006, England 3 - Hungary 1 at Old Trafford, Manchester, Friendly.
01 Mar 2006, England 2 - Uruguay 1 at Anfield, Liverpool, Friendly.
12 Nov 2005, England 3 - Argentina 2 at Stade de Geneve, Geneva, Friendly.
12 Oct 2005, England 2 - Poland 1 at Old Trafford, Manchester, WC Qualifier.
08 Oct 2005, England 1 - Austria 0 at Old Trafford, Manchester, WC Qualifier.
07 Sep 2005, Northern Ireland 1 - England 0 at Windsor Park, Belfast, WC Qualifier.
03 Sep 2005, Wales 0 - England 1 at Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, WC Qualifier.
17 Aug 2005, Denmark 4 - England 1 at Parken Stadium (Idrætsparken), Copenhagen, Friendly.
31 May 2005, England 3 - Columbia 2 at Giants Stadium, New York, Friendly.
28 May 2005, USA 1 - England 2 at Soldier Field, Chicago, Friendly.
30 Mar 2005, England 2 - Azerbaijan 0 at St James' Park, Newcastle, WC Qualifier.
26 Mar 2005, England 4 - Northern Ireland 0 at Old Trafford, Manchester, WC Qualifier.
09 Feb 2005, England 0 - Holland 0 at Villa Park, Birmingham, Friendly.
17 Nov 2004, Spain 1 - England 0 at Estadio Santiago Bernabeu, Madrid, Friendly.
13 Oct 2004, Azerbaijan 0 - England 1 at Tofig Bakhramov Stadium, Baku, WC Qualifier.
09 Oct 2004, England 2 - Wales 0 at Old Trafford, Manchester, WC Qualifier.
08 Sep 2004, Poland 1 - England 2 at Stadion Slaski, Chorzow, WC Qualifier.
04 Sep 2004, Austria 2 - England 2 at Ernst-Happel-Stadion, Vienna, WC Qualifier.
18 Aug 2004, England 3 - Ukraine 0 at St James' Park, Newcastle, Friendly.

Solid, but not really that impressive... still don't get the 5th... 10-15 would be realistic.

Another one of Blatters new ideas, New Systems etc. Talk enough Bullshit and people will believe! The guy is a joke as is FIFA.

England have now moved to 4th place in the latest FIFA Rankings.

This is the highest ever position for England under this ranking sytem and equals our 1997 position under Glenn Hoddle.

Steve McLaren must be chuffed to bits

I think I still need someone to explain this new ranking system to me...

Dont we all!!

Yeah, like how does England end up higher than Germany although Germany made the semi-final this time around and the final in 2002 while England went home to await its postcards?

Because England played more competitive games over the the previous years than Germany did due to Germany automatically qualifying for the World Cup. You don't get points for friendlies