If anyone wants to see the Zidane head butt again, here it is on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc
Unbelievable!
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Zinedine Zidane's headbutt attack
...against Marco Materazzi during World Cup final
Like it. Could do with squishier or gruntier sound effects though.
On the website with the video someone claims that Materazzi told Zidane: "Your nipples feel the same as your mom's". He touches his nipple right before the thing happened.
Why get angry about that? I can confirm that it's true.
Why get angry about that? I can confirm that it's true.
See, my guess earlier today was something along the lines of the Italian saying "You're wife loves its when I twist her nipples!"
Close...
Close...
Maybe he really said "Your nipples get hard faster and stay hard longer than your shlong".
Has any other player been banned twice in one World Cup?
Has any other player been banned twice in one World Cup?
QUOTE (sarabyrd @ Jul 10 2006, 1:25 pm) 
Has any other player been banned twice in one World Cup?
You mean got 2 yellows and a red card?
I am pretty sure that the croatian lad got more than that in 1 game against the aussies.
So the videos and referees can see hits and pushes...but what about insults??? if Zidane was really offended by one dirty insult at the worst time of his temper... which can affect his performance...how should he behave? wait till the end of the match and hit him though??? or just smile? or what.
who have seen the follow up yesterday watched the italien goal keeper appologize for Zidane while leaving. If it was a real insult I feel sympathy with Zidane then, but I would prefer he gives him a bunch rather than a head
who have seen the follow up yesterday watched the italien goal keeper appologize for Zidane while leaving. If it was a real insult I feel sympathy with Zidane then, but I would prefer he gives him a bunch rather than a head
A realistic view of Marco Materazzi
This may clear up what words were exchanged between him and zeidan last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpG4AHlZrL4
This may clear up what words were exchanged between him and zeidan last night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpG4AHlZrL4
QUOTE (thunder_eg @ Jul 10 2006, 1:36 pm)
So the videos and referees can see hits and pushes...but what about insults
Yep, that'd really sort football out, book people for insults. Brilliant.
latest claim is that he was called a terrorist!
As I understand there is a discussion about this, as officially the FIFA ruling does not allow video evidence to be used during the game.
One statement says that the fourth and fifth officials say this quickly on a video replay, as none of the referees (linesmen, whatever you want to call them) saw this. Another statement says that the fourth official say it with out the fifth official and told the referee over the mic.
Now the video evidence discussion goes on further ...
One statement says that the fourth and fifth officials say this quickly on a video replay, as none of the referees (linesmen, whatever you want to call them) saw this. Another statement says that the fourth official say it with out the fifth official and told the referee over the mic.
Now the video evidence discussion goes on further ...
I think Materazzi's long been known as a thug in football but what the hell did he say ? Zidane gave him a taste of his own medicine but failed his own team,
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Jul 10 2006, 2:01 pm)
latest claim is that he was called a terrorist!
because he's Muslim?
EDIT: I had a feeling it was something like that
What's Materazzi's nickname - the Mower?
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Jul 10 2006, 2:21 pm)
because he's Muslim?
I guess so (and has Algerian roots)
whether that really was said I don't know, I read it on the online version of some shoddy foreign tabloid
what was said? any real news yet? what language did he speak that zidane knew or did zidane play in italy that he knew some italian?
i was reall heart-broken, but the 500+ italian fans at rosengarten (mannheim) were so loud! at that point, i stopped rooting for italy. i think i would crack under pressure too. sheesh.
i was reall heart-broken, but the 500+ italian fans at rosengarten (mannheim) were so loud! at that point, i stopped rooting for italy. i think i would crack under pressure too. sheesh.
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/zidane.gif[/img]
QUOTE (Elfenstar @ Jul 10 2006, 2:26 pm)
or did zidane play in italy
yes
that clip is painful just to watch
I think it was a disgraceful move on Zidane's part, no matter what was said to him, and really diminished the whole mood of the game, and even of the tournament, since it was the final.
It's one thing, as a spectator, to watch two teams really competing as hard as they can to win the final. It's another when ugliness sets in.
I can't believe there are some people who apparently think Zidane's actions might have been excusable, depending on what the other player said.
It's one thing, as a spectator, to watch two teams really competing as hard as they can to win the final. It's another when ugliness sets in.
I can't believe there are some people who apparently think Zidane's actions might have been excusable, depending on what the other player said.
I don't think anyone thinks Zidane's actions are excusable but if what was thought to have been said is true it does say that Materazzi is a first class asshole.
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Jul 10 2006, 1:01 pm)
latest claim is that he was called a terrorist!
Matter of fact, my first thought was the Materrazzi called him a terrone (earth eater), that's what Northern Italians call Southerners (buy I may be corrected).
When Belgium played Holland in '98, Belgian midfielder Lorenzo Staelens gave Patrick Kluivert all sorts of abuse during the match including calling him a rapist in reference to some serious off the pitch trouble the Dutchman had been involved in earlier. Kluivert elbowed the Belgian, was sent off, suspended and no one tried to justify what happened.
Even if what the Guardian says is true, it doesn't justify what Zidane did and is not the first time he's been involved. He stamped on a Saudi (IIRC) in '98 and was sent off with Juventus for another, though much less spectacular, head-butt.
@ER
If you knew what players say to each other during games, you'd never watch another game.
Even if what the Guardian says is true, it doesn't justify what Zidane did and is not the first time he's been involved. He stamped on a Saudi (IIRC) in '98 and was sent off with Juventus for another, though much less spectacular, head-butt.
@ER
If you knew what players say to each other during games, you'd never watch another game.
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/zidane6hit.gif[/img]
It doesn't matter one bit what Materazzi said.
Zidane squandered his own last game, his overall reputation, and possibly a victory for his team, just because of some trash talking.
What could Materazzi have said that could possibly have been worth that price?
Zidane squandered his own last game, his overall reputation, and possibly a victory for his team, just because of some trash talking.
What could Materazzi have said that could possibly have been worth that price?
Zidane's family is originally from Algeria, so he'll get called a terrorist all the time by a section of the population
if he can't rise above that, then he needs to get out a little more
if he can't rise above that, then he needs to get out a little more
QUOTE (Elfenstar @ Jul 10 2006, 1:26 pm)
what was said? any real news yet? what language did he speak that zidane knew or did zidane play in italy that he knew some italian?
Zidane played for Juventus Turin 1996 - 2001.
I'm sure that Materazzi said something extremely personal and rude but they always do. Not everyone can shake it off.
QUOTE (Bart @ Jul 10 2006, 2:05 pm)
For a good laugh (especially if you've seen the YouTube.com compilation of Materazzi's past "antics") you should read what Materazzi's father has to say in the above article. Among other things:
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Mi ha appena riferito di avere subito una provocazione, come del resto è avvenuto negli ultimi due anni. E' come se ce l'avessero con lui, ogni volta. Marco nelle ultime due stagioni le ha solo prese (...).
In short, Materazzi was provoked, as so often in the past two years, when he was always on the receiving end.
Hahaha funny IW.
It doesn't matter what was said to him. He is a professional footballer playing on a world stage. He should rise above it.
Not the best thing to be remembered for in your last international game.
It doesn't matter what was said to him. He is a professional footballer playing on a world stage. He should rise above it.
Not the best thing to be remembered for in your last international game.
its a shame for such a great player ...
@Elfenstar - Zidane played many years at Juve, before moving to Real, so can speak Italian. So no communication and probably no misunderstanding problem.
Would be interesting to know what was said to start that mad 20 seconds for Zidane, that will be remember just as much as he was a great footballer.
Would be interesting to know what was said to start that mad 20 seconds for Zidane, that will be remember just as much as he was a great footballer.
QUOTE (don_riina @ Jul 10 2006, 1:40 pm)
Yep, that'd really sort football out, book people for insults. Brilliant.
Insulting the ref. would be a pretty certain way to get booked!
Current betting on what Materazzi said to Zidane:
"See all these names tattooed on my arms - this is your mother, this is your sister, and this is your wife." 8-1
"Cor, you sweat more than your wife does!" 11-1
"Your daughter's having Wayne Rooney's lovechild." 20-1
"I've got hair growth formula on my shirt." 33-1
"I bet you a fiver you can't headbutt me in the chest." 33-1
"I bet I can do a better rhino impression than you." 66-1
"My name's worth more than yours in Scrabble." 100-1
"You play like you're English." 7-5 on
"See all these names tattooed on my arms - this is your mother, this is your sister, and this is your wife." 8-1
"Cor, you sweat more than your wife does!" 11-1
"Your daughter's having Wayne Rooney's lovechild." 20-1
"I've got hair growth formula on my shirt." 33-1
"I bet you a fiver you can't headbutt me in the chest." 33-1
"I bet I can do a better rhino impression than you." 66-1
"My name's worth more than yours in Scrabble." 100-1
"You play like you're English." 7-5 on
Zizou's actions now officially part of history...
-Wikipedia-
QUOTE
Final game
On July 9, 2006, Zidane became one of only four footballers to achieve the feat of scoring in two different World Cup final matches (he scored twice in the 1998 FIFA World Cup final), sharing the honour with Pelé, Paul Breitner, and Vavá. He scored in the seventh minute from the penalty spot. He nearly headed in the ball during the first period of extra time but it was saved by Gianluigi Buffon. His career ended when he was sent off for headbutting Italy's Marco Materazzi in the chest in the 110th minute. He was the fourth person to have been sent off in a World Cup final and the first to be sent off during extra time. The game ended in a 1-1 draw and Italy won the championship after a penalty kick shootout. His manager, Raymond Domenech has claimed he was provoked by Materazzi. Team members reported that Zidane acted in a response to a racial slur by Materazzi, while the Italian side has categorically denied that he had any role in the provocation of Zidane.[7]Despite this, on July 10, 2006, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball for the best player in the 2006 World Cup. The winner was selected by a poll of journalists covering the tournament; Zidane polled 2012 points, ahead of Fabio Cannavaro, who polled 1977 points.[8]
On July 9, 2006, Zidane became one of only four footballers to achieve the feat of scoring in two different World Cup final matches (he scored twice in the 1998 FIFA World Cup final), sharing the honour with Pelé, Paul Breitner, and Vavá. He scored in the seventh minute from the penalty spot. He nearly headed in the ball during the first period of extra time but it was saved by Gianluigi Buffon. His career ended when he was sent off for headbutting Italy's Marco Materazzi in the chest in the 110th minute. He was the fourth person to have been sent off in a World Cup final and the first to be sent off during extra time. The game ended in a 1-1 draw and Italy won the championship after a penalty kick shootout. His manager, Raymond Domenech has claimed he was provoked by Materazzi. Team members reported that Zidane acted in a response to a racial slur by Materazzi, while the Italian side has categorically denied that he had any role in the provocation of Zidane.[7]Despite this, on July 10, 2006, Zidane was awarded the Golden Ball for the best player in the 2006 World Cup. The winner was selected by a poll of journalists covering the tournament; Zidane polled 2012 points, ahead of Fabio Cannavaro, who polled 1977 points.[8]
-Wikipedia-
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"You play like you're English." 7-5 on
that's enough to tip even the most mild mannered player over the edge
Brazilian TV Globo had a team of people who can read lips look at the video and they concluded that Materazzi called Zidane's sister a prostitute...
Article in french: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060710...5908/CPSPORTS07
Article in french: http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20060710...5908/CPSPORTS07
maybe zidane was pissed off that the italian goal stood when it was clear that Matterazzi was climbing on Viera??
The videos on YouTube show Materazzi as a "devastater" when every other player does similar things. Besides he didn't commit any foul on Zidane, apart from rubbing his nipple.
I don't see reasons of all this noise coming out.
I don't see reasons of all this noise coming out.
If you look very carefully at Zidane and Materazzi in real time you see the big Italian defender rub Zidane's left nipple. Zidane then smiles as he turns away, and I swear I can lip read Materazzi saying, "Hey! You've got a really nice arse."
Dunno, but maybe what Zidane did was related.
Dunno, but maybe what Zidane did was related.
Zidane should of belted him properly if he was going to do anything stupid. It was a pathetic headbutt and hardly hurt the Italian player. Zidane let things sadly get to him-maybe it would have been better to wait for revenge by scoring or laugh at Materazzi. Easier said than done tho especially with all the emotion involved with the game. For people to criticize Zidane is stupid-They have no idea the Pressure he was under nor that its human to lose control sometimes. He is Human and makes mistakes. Its OK for fans to get emotional in a game so why not players? He made a mistake -so what.
QUOTE (Dally M @ Jul 10 2006, 9:15 pm)
It was a pathetic headbutt and hardly hurt the Italian player.
So you've obviously been headbutted in the chest quite a lot for you to write this informed post.
QUOTE (Dally M @ Jul 10 2006, 9:15 pm)
For people to criticize Zidane is stupid-They have no idea the Pressure he was under nor that its human to lose control sometimes. He is Human and makes mistakes.
Sure we all make mistakes from time to time. But if we make a STUPID mistake, then we should be rightfully reminded of that fact in the vain hope we wont make a similar stupid mistake. 10 minutes to go in the final game if his playing career! Thats not a mistake, thats sheer dumb ass stupidity.
Apparently Meterazzi said "I slept with your mother last night, and she is an Algerian whore".
Zidane's mother is deathly ill and that's the spark that set him off.
[ITV news at 10 tonight]
Edit: Meterazzi is a tosser. Don't care if things like that get said all the time, he's still a wanker.
Zidane's mother is deathly ill and that's the spark that set him off.
[ITV news at 10 tonight]
Edit: Meterazzi is a tosser. Don't care if things like that get said all the time, he's still a wanker.
if you'd watched the BBC you would have seen a different line that the italian apparently said.
doubt anyone will know for sure unless zidane says it.
zidane would have handled it better by waiting till the game was over and storming the italian dressing room and beating f**k out of them all, prob could have as well. except cannavaro, he's a hard bastard.
doubt anyone will know for sure unless zidane says it.
zidane would have handled it better by waiting till the game was over and storming the italian dressing room and beating f**k out of them all, prob could have as well. except cannavaro, he's a hard bastard.
You're right Schotte, could have done a lot more damage if off the pitch.
best bit is i'm sure most of us would think it would have been the right thing to do as well and kept the respect of him, even though violence is bad
in fact he could have gone down as even more of a legend while ruining italian cheers as well!
in fact he could have gone down as even more of a legend while ruining italian cheers as well!
Violence is definately way bad, but when it comes to one's mum and her sexual capabilities...
If Materazzi said "I slept with your mother last night, and she is an Algerian whore", the better thing would have been to answer back with something like "No mate, that was your own mother, she just pretends to be Algerian so you think she's hot". Leave the headbutting out of it.
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