Zinedine Zidane's headbutt attack

in the eyes of the law at least.


why a shame would you like to see ZZ prosecuted then?

9.5/10 for deliberately trying to start a new controversial topic

But then again I am sure most people were probably quite pleased that Bowyer was charged. However, it can't be one rule for one and a different rule for someone else. That point only applies in England though and as he did it in Germany I have no idea what the German standpoint on this is.

If he had done it in England though I am sure he would have been charged by the police. They set a precedent in the Bowyer case and will now have to continue to enforce it in future or look like hypocrites.

Bloody good job Cantona has retired then isn't it ?

@Moonboot,
I agree, only in the eyes of the law, in the eyes of common sense and public opinion, he should have had every right!

And no ZZ should not be prosecuted, but he should not be held up as some kind of sporting martyr either.
He got conned, he was an idiot, end of it!

@br,
yes I realised it might go that way, although it wasn't my honest intention.
I'm off to a meeting soon, so it could be interesting to see if this thread develops(for the hundredth time again) in that direction by the time I get back.

Although he did go to court for his, almost on field antics, and was found guilty and if I remember correctly got a massive 120 hours community service teaching football to underprivileged kids.

Which appears to be what he does a lot of now anyway.

No cleaning toilets in old peoples homes for Mr Cantona!

Game for a laugh

Don't agree at all. Fact is, he wasn't defending himself at all. He shot two people in the back as they were running away. If public opinion is really in favour of that, then why not just disband the police force and let lynch mobs impose "law and order" on the country.
This Martin character is basically an unsavoury right-wing thug. At his pre-trial commital hearing he stated his belief that "Hitler was right" in his policies towards gypsies, and since his release from prison he's been urging people to vote BNP.
It beggars belief that he's held up as some kind of hero.

should be justifiable to batter the Australian cricket team with bats then this winter seeing as they are always mouthing off members of the other team (sledging) whilst playing

Maybe Tyson bit part of Holyfields ear off because he said something nasty to him too. Poor Mike Tyson. And there was me thinking he was the villain of the piece.

http://www.loganscrawl.co.uk/zidane/

Thanks, DD, you made my day. Love the lamppost.

what's with the latest trend of posting links all over the place (not specifically you, DD) without even having the decency to tell people more or less what they're about?
it's just flippin annoying

it says Zidane at the end of the link!

@br
looks like you were right!
And no surprises at who jumped off the deep end.

I still think being burgled 9 times and at least 3 times by the same people, who you subsequently shoot, kind of shows that law and order is failing, so why not take it into your own hands!
ooops! Sorry that is still not sufficient provocation in the eyes of the law, and it still proves my original point.

S'cuse us Topsy, thought the title was self-explanatory ...voici un petit hommage de Zidane

what do you mean, no surprises who jumped off the deep-end?
what was extreme about my response, in your opinion?

@DD - no worries, it's just happening more and more these days. it's even in the forum usage guidelines not to do it - it's not just you, you just happened to be the most recent. wasn't meant to be picking on you or anything

Okay guys strap me in, I have a bite and I think this one is going to put up a bit of a fight...!

well, come on then
or are you all mouth and no trousers?

Yorkshire my dear, we always say what we mean, you know that, perhaps we should take this to a private forum?

But later though, I have a 3 hour meeting soon, so I have to save my energy...!

Get a room you 2.

SiM's jealous...

FWIW I agree with Topsy

Okay I'll go with it, wrong thread and all.
I also agree with Topsy to some extent.
Tony Martin the person is now an extreme political nightmare.
Tony Martin however was many times over a victim, but my point is and remains, that even though he was "Provoked" 9 times, he was still not justified in the eyes of the Law to commit his criminal acts!

Perhaps the failure of the system to protect Tony Martin at least 9 times, created the sad political nightmare that people see today.

ZZ claims "Extreme Provocation", I say that is was schoolyard stuff and happens in many professional sports all the time, and so it is no defense!

No offence taken - now I know Topsy - you live and you learn.

What the Germans saw:
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/image001.gif[/img]

What the French saw:
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/image002.gif[/img]

What the Italians saw:
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/image003.gif[/img]

What the Americans saw:
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/image004.gif[/img]

How it appeared in Bild:
[img]http://www.keithball.net/img/football/image005.gif[/img]

I like the Bild one best. Despite anything surrounding the whys and wherefores of the incident it's 1. embarrassing that he went down like a sack of spuds just cause some bloke nuts him on the nipple and 2. Zidane was gonna get sent off for a headbutt so he really should have broken the fuckers nose not just given him a facial titty twister.

Its a conspiracy, you can see the Italian is bleeding before he gets shot.

Excerpt from a BBC News article (my BBC links don't work, for some reason):

i still laugh at how "fake" metarazzi fell down. if i got headbutted on the chest, i wouldn't "fly" backwards unless i was in a jackie chan flick. i'd probably stumble and fall, but not like that.

He saw it coming and took a dive. Zidane should have stood on his head. Wouldn't have mattered much to him...although he might have ended up in the slammer, but what a story to tell the grandkids!

it didn't look that fake to me but I'm easily fooled, I'm not convinced I'd get up for a while after such a butt from a tough nut like Zidane

Still does not justify headbutt, but phwoar!!!

I had lunch with a doctor yesterday and he told me such a headbutt can do serious damage, even kill. I didn't pick up all the technical stuff, but crushed arteries and heart failure were in there. He was so shocked and disgusted he couldn't watch the game any more.

This is worth remembering because there seems to be a tendency to excuse Zidane and trivialise, even admire, his actions.

I saw the entire interview live in french in a hotel in Southern France last night.

But, I didn't understand a word.

FIFA is to open an inquiry into Matter-thingy's behaviour
Just what do they expect to gain?

Matty Eraser will claim that he mistook Zidane for some random spectator who had wandered on to the pitch.

Surely if Materazzi is found to have racially abused Zidane, then he will have to be banned.

After FIFA made every captain of every team denounce racism before games, it would not really be consistent to not punish Materazzi...

It will be hard to prove what Materazzi said though, won't it be his word against Zidanes ?

Expect Sepp Blatter to suggest fitting the players with black boxes.

@mic
Indeed. Headbutts are dangerous, whether it's to the face or to the chest.
@Hazza
Even Zidane says that Materazzi's insults were not racist.

I think FIFA have overreacted, and possibly even created a dangerous precedent, by investigating Matty Razzer

Well it means that anytime there is an incident on the football pitch where someone is elbowed, punched, kicked or whatever, the perpetrator can now claim that he was provoked and in theory FIFA would have to investigate. Unless of course it's just special circumstances because it's Zidane. In which case it's bollocks.

exactly, dangerous precedent. Doesn't surprise me when Blatter is involved though

Sophie Ellis Bextor found headbutted to death in hotel room in France...

Police believe it was murder on Zidane's floor.

(I know I know very poor!!)

Wasn't that in the jokes thread yesterday?

possibly, but if it was, who cares??

Precisely why I wondered what they are trying to achieve.
There can only be one outcome: acquitted due to lack of evidence.
Waste of time.

Don't bring BUSH into this now please!

Not relevant after looking back in the thread! :-)

Zidane has received a 3 match ban (which doesn't really matter as he has retired) and Matterazzi has received a 2 match ban, which is a joke really - almost every player could get banned now