Anti-fascist demonstration against the Neo-Nazis

UPDATE 28.Jun.2006: this demo has now been CANCELLED.

As the Neo-Nazi demonstration on 1 July 2006 becomes more and more of a reality, Munich is preparing for a counter-demonstration and counting on the World Cup guests to become part of it.

Various organizations have cooperated in initiating "Kickt Nazis raus!" which will host a counter-demonstration on the Marienplatz (in the eyes of the world), such as Initiative Bayerischer Strafverteidigerinnen und Strafverteidiger (Initiative of Bavarian Defense Attorneys), Bündnis für Toleranz (League for Tolerance) and Vereinigung der Verfolgten des Nazi-Regimes (Confederation of the Victims of the Nazi Regime). (German links)

They are calling for massive participation in the counter-demonstration on 1 July 2006 at 11 am at Marienplatz to show the world that not just Munich but its international guests as well are against the ideology behind the Neo-Nazi movement. A multi-lingual flyer is being cirulated so that World Cup tourists understand what the demonstration is for and against and take part.

If you are interested in participating, don your national colors and gather at Marienplatz to support your "adopted" city in showing the Unteachables the red card.

There are a lot of us on this site, lets organise something for next Saturday to go and face the Neo Nazis in the Marienplatz at 11 am and tell them properly and to their face to go %^%^& off...

I am sick and tired of these &&&%^$% marching into MUC once or twice a year and just giving crap.. puts a real damper on the World Cup summer..

We should really plan something together.. any ideas? Posters.. rotten egg chucking.. something?

Please PM me to figure something out...

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any particular reason you are only including Jewish people in thi s?

I just saw a post by Sarabyrd about an idea somewhere.

@OG - I was waiting for that question ... I hate being excluded from things <__<

My favorite response to things like this is to now give them the benefit of my response. To demonstratively do something else. Kind of like ignoring a kid with a temper tantrum. The tantrum only works if people pay attention to the tantrum thrower at the time.

@Owain.. no, you're totally right.. we should all go and give 'em a piece of our minds.. you are absolutely right..

I guess I was only thinking in relation to the fact that I have never seen any organized group representing the Jewish community here in particular come out and make a proper stand to the lovely people of the aryan nation movement..

For me, my grandmother was a Dachau survivor so it particularly sets me off that they come here next Saturday..

Any ideas for what we could do on the 1st July?

Well, I was planning a Tia benefit... I normally really avoid these mass confrentation things, ever since my roommate had to pick glass out of my hair at one back in the day...

I agree. I wouldn't let the pricks spoil my day by wasting it. Just go and do something fun instead and celebrate your freedom.

Here is a larger copy of the poster in english.



I was given posters and flyers in more languages, but not many. I can't figure out the website, all in German! I want to start printing more and putting them up in the hostels, especially a flyer with alot of info in English that could be handed out. I work as a tour-guide, so I have great access to tourists and hostels. Anyone else who has similar access is in a great position to do something.

I am actually supposed to be doing a tour of the Dachau Concentration Camp Memorial Site the day of the march. Sadly our meeting point is at Marienplatz which could possibly be off limits because we meet at 12 there. Anyone else see the sad fact here? The Nazis right to march will block peoples right to go to Dachau and learn about the genocidal end result of a fascist regime!

Is it really necessary to visit Dachau to learn about the genocidal end result of a fascist regime? I would think there are several other ways of doing this.

Have you been there Eleanor?

No and I never will. The place is a tourist attraction and a scar left over from Germany's dark past. There are better ways to educate yourself. There is enough war guilt in this country without Dachau remaining one of the "must see" stops on every tourists list of things to see in Germany.

You should really go and see what it is like for yourself. The new exhibition is amazing.
The survivors of Dachau are the people who fought to have the space preserved as a memorial site.
Yes it is a tourist attraction, but peoples preconceptions about it generally develope during a visit.
When the concentration camp was first opened in 1933 the majority of prisoners were German. Alot of German people were also murdered by the National Socialists, I wonder if their families feel this "war guilt"?

Yes they do. I wrote a few more thoughts on the topic Visiting KZ Dachau - Nazi concentration camp. My opinion is clearly in the minority but it is still something I feel very strongly about.

Edit: meant to post this in the linked thread.

Your point that people "gawk" is valid. I've seen people posing and smiling for photos at the main gate numerous times and it still pisses me off.

The exhibition at Dachau is not like a torture museum. Although the torture at Dachau is explained, it is not designed to shock or make people feel ill. The focus is on the prisoners experiences, what it meant to them. SS ideologies and actions are explained but we do not tell people how to run a concentration camp. Focusing on the "gory details" is damaging, but explaining the concentration camp on one level as being part of a vast Europe wide system of terror, and on another level explaining individual experiences of the prisoners is, I believe, the correct way to deal with this period of history.

Books are of course a great way to access this history, especially personal accounts, and the Memorial Site has two extensive bookshops on the subject.

The Memorial site is a place of remembrance and learning.

It is the final resting place for unknown thousands.

It is not a "house of horrors".

Jamie, could you please post a link to the German website?

Oh der, it is on the edge of the poster: http://www.gegen-krieg-und-rassismus.de/

Is there an online source for the poster? I can't find it on their website.

http://www.gegen-krieg-und-rassismus.de/start1.htm

at the bottom of the page. It's in frames and ugly, but that's beside the point really.

This poster's particularly nice -- in Bayrisch.

oooo that bavarian one is FAB
where can i get a copy?

you read German chuck. Edit: so do I, and I looked but didn't find any info on where to get a poster. Print it out yerself I guess.

Just heard on the radio that the march has been cancelled.

Cancelled by the neo-nazis (german link) themselves, they say the poor police is too busy during the World Cup. New date is 19 August.
EDIT: 19 August is Rudolf Hess' birthday ...

What is racism?
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

Do I understand properly from the German report that the anti-fascist demo may still take place, but a decision will be made on Thursday?

That's right. Because the Nazis might register another demonstration short term and the Antis want to be prepared for them.

"Kick Nazis in" would be a better slogan. They could hand out steel toe-capped boots alongside the whistles and placards.

The Brownshirts are at it again: Today there will be a memorial watch at Marienplatz starting at 7pm and ending at 9pm. It might be a good idea to gather around them spontaneously and sing drinking songs - but not in an organized fashion or else we would be staging an unregistered demonstration and would be up for criminal procedure.
On Saturday the NPD will march from Stachus at 1pm and end up with speeches at Maximilianstrasse in front of the Völkerkundemuseum (where the Urbanauten are setting up the Pflaster unterm Strand that was at Corneliusbrücke). There will be an official anti-demonstration starting at 11.30am at Marienplatz. Show presence if you can, I'll try to be there Saturday.

The police are setting up barricades around town already.

Was around the area today. Way more counter-demonstrators than neo-nazi's.

Yesterday, I was really afraid of them. Not feel safe here.

Didar does your name mean "visit"?