flights from Germany to Tokio will cost in the range of 6.500€ to 10.000€
Would you fork out that much just to be able to have a fag on board a plane ???
SMINTAIR
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Smintair - an airline specially for smokers
Launched by a German entrepreneur
No.
If I can't smoke then I don't want to. If I can smoke and don't have any then the demons come a calling.
If I can't smoke then I don't want to. If I can smoke and don't have any then the demons come a calling.
Not now, but I might have when I still smoked. I was that addicted.
nope (don't smoke!)
but it sounds kind of gross, especially for a long flight! air in airplanes is recirculated so that means everyone will have to breathe in the air/smoke mix that'll accumulate.
or do they have some super duper amazing air filter system they'll start to use?
but it sounds kind of gross, especially for a long flight! air in airplanes is recirculated so that means everyone will have to breathe in the air/smoke mix that'll accumulate.
or do they have some super duper amazing air filter system they'll start to use?
I remember transatlantic flights when I was a child and smoking was still permitted. One of the most horrible experiences. It's one thing to be in a bar/pub or the like but it's another to be on a plane where, as Mere said, the air is recirculated...oog.
Lots of garlic soups, refried beans, mashed potatoes and Guinness on the inflight menu, nobody will notice the smoke.
QUOTE (mere @ Jun 23 2006, 9:17 am) 
air in airplanes is recirculated so that means everyone will have to breathe in the air/smoke mix that'll accumulate.
from the website ...:
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"Yes!" End of the 80s, like in a worst case cartel, all of the airlines didn't switch off the no-smoking signs after take-off anymore. You may ask why? Not because of the non-smokers. They did it to save on fuel and air condition filters. The air in an aircraft in those days was better than in an operation theater, although it was allowed to smoke on every seat. The mystery behind it was that fresh air was guided into the plane from outside. Nowadays, they just circulate the air through filters and pump the old air right back into the cabin. The result is saving money for the airline and presenting you with a free head ache. Yes, that's the reason why you have a head ache and feel worn-out after longer plane journeys. That's also the reason why today's flight attendants are a bit ... jumpy, to say the least. It still seems to be alright in First Class, but the further you go to the back, the worse it becomes.
EDIT - beat you to it mat !!
I believe (correct at will) that the air quality used to be better when you could still smoke on planes as they had to circulate the air through a filter system.
But we are talking about Airlines saving money here, do you really believe they are going stop circulating air if smoking was allowed?
Saw a story on TV once about how clean the air filters were. In 90% of the planes they tested (Mulitple airlines) the filters were so dirty it
looked like they were covered in thick oil. This is why many people also get sick after a plane trip. THis story aired back in the late 90's,
so I hope something has been done to fix the situation, but I doubt it...
looked like they were covered in thick oil. This is why many people also get sick after a plane trip. THis story aired back in the late 90's,
so I hope something has been done to fix the situation, but I doubt it...
I'm a smoker but actually believe that non smoking flights offer me at least a little redemption.
I just hope the money they pay gets evenly distributed to all the non smokers on the plane, as we are being affected by their desire to smoke.
Why the fuck would a non smoker fly on Smokers International Airways
Back when I used to smoke- it would've been hell to fly for 11+ hours without a cigarette! If I could've afforded it, I probably would've paid the extra!
When I was still a smoker I was put on one of the first non-smoking flights from HongKong to London. By the time I checked in the other flight was full because so many smokers had switched to the one smoking flight leaving just before. I was more pissed off that they didn't warn us. (I would have brought nicotine patches or even chewing tobacco if I would have known) And once on the plane, and the thought of 13 hours on a non-smoking flight hit me, I almost got off. It was seriously only a very patient steward who convinced me to stay on the flight (and not deboard forcing them to then find my bags and delay the whole flight). Though, now that I am older and a bit more confrontational, today I would have probably made them let me off, pay all the extra fees for a delayed flight and made their lives hell for changing the terms and conditions of flight without warning (the flight over 2 weeks before was smoking allowed). I guess it's a good thing I quit smoking
German ex-stockbroker has a 'good idea'.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5121786.stm
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5121786.stm
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Cool! They can all cough and wheeze and get DVT together whilst more seats'll be available for us non-smokers on normal flights.
they might have problems if Germany ever passes laws like in Britain guaranteeing smoke free working environments.
I *heart* free-market capitalism
I would hate to be in a all smokers plane and i am a smoker, damn i think it should not be allowed in such closed environs!
*cough* *wheeze*
*cough* *wheeze*
QUOTE (Eleanor Rigby @ Jun 28 2006, 11:12 am)
I *heart* free-market capitalism
me too but i have a feeling that this is one idea that won't take off.
ehem.
QUOTE (arshoo @ Jun 28 2006, 11:30 am)
I would hate to be in a all smokers plane and i am a smoker, damn i think it should not be allowed in such closed environs!
*cough* *wheeze*
*cough* *wheeze*
Wasn't one of things they said they would do is to bring back proper fresh air circulation in the cabin? If done correctly then I don't think it would be so bad. Also bear in mind there will not be any economy seats, so you are not going to be crammed in between people puffing smoke in your face from all directions.
I just took time to read the article. It seems this idea is aimed at Japanese business to start off with. The proposed route in from Düsselfof (which has a very large Japanese ex-pat community) to Tokyo. They are proposing 138 business class seats (Lufthansa offer 16 first, 78 Business and 274 Economy.
With this difference in passenger numbers (and increased fuel costs because of the venitlation system and increased cleaning costs) I would expect ticket prices to be at least as expensive as the first class tickets on Lufthansa.
With this difference in passenger numbers (and increased fuel costs because of the venitlation system and increased cleaning costs) I would expect ticket prices to be at least as expensive as the first class tickets on Lufthansa.
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(CNN) -- As more and more hotels go completely smoke-free, a German entrepreneur is bucking the trend by launching an airline for those determined not to kick the habit.
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Former German investment banker Alexander W. Schoppmann hopes his new airline, Smokers' International Airline (Smintair), will begin daily services on March 26 between Düsseldorf in Germany and Tokyo's Narita airport.
He says smoking will be permitted in all 138 seats -- 100 in business-class and 30 in first-class -- onboard the airline's two leased Boeing 747 aircraft.
Most airlines have at least 400 seats in a 747 and some have up to 500 seats. Schoppmann said Smintair business-class seats would have 70 inches (1.77 meters) of legroom, while first-class seats would have 80 inches (2.03 meters.)
There will be no seats in the plane's upper deck, which will be used as a lounge.
Flights will cost 6,500 euros ($8,300) return for business-class seats and 10,000 euros ($12,800) return for first-class seats.
He says smoking will be permitted in all 138 seats -- 100 in business-class and 30 in first-class -- onboard the airline's two leased Boeing 747 aircraft.
Most airlines have at least 400 seats in a 747 and some have up to 500 seats. Schoppmann said Smintair business-class seats would have 70 inches (1.77 meters) of legroom, while first-class seats would have 80 inches (2.03 meters.)
There will be no seats in the plane's upper deck, which will be used as a lounge.
Flights will cost 6,500 euros ($8,300) return for business-class seats and 10,000 euros ($12,800) return for first-class seats.
Full story at CNN
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This twat of an idea will go bust.
Good example in The Sunday Times from Michael Bannatyne. He said get into selling BIO products. Why?
Because BIO is a trend not a fad. People are not going to be demanding battery hen eggs, and chemically pumped bacon over the next few years - it will be the opposite of course.
The trend is not TOWARDS smoking planes and pubs. It is TOWARDS non-smoking.
So this twat is backing a losing horse.
Good example in The Sunday Times from Michael Bannatyne. He said get into selling BIO products. Why?
Because BIO is a trend not a fad. People are not going to be demanding battery hen eggs, and chemically pumped bacon over the next few years - it will be the opposite of course.
The trend is not TOWARDS smoking planes and pubs. It is TOWARDS non-smoking.
So this twat is backing a losing horse.
Maybe they will have to go outside to smoke, thus ensuring that the aircraft uses less fuel the further it flies ?
Are you saying its going to go up in smoke?
ps: thanks OG for the warning. i've made my peace with the inevitable.
ps: thanks OG for the warning. i've made my peace with the inevitable.
QUOTE (Yeti @ Aug 1 2006, 5:45 pm)
Maybe they will have to go outside to smoke...
They have ashtrys and cup holders on the fuselage...
They do when i design 'em
@Yeti. Aha - I can now see it is just a marketing ploy to sell more duty frees.
I am thinking it might be quite breezy when they pop out for a fag, and this will in turn burn down the cigarettes much quicker than usual.
Clever buggers.
I am thinking it might be quite breezy when they pop out for a fag, and this will in turn burn down the cigarettes much quicker than usual.
Clever buggers.
That should be thinking how they can help smokers on non smoking flights.. smokers IVs ... or maybe think of a better way of shopping while on the flight.. you are a captive audience make people use their credit cards.
QUOTE (EUnomad @ Aug 1 2006, 6:10 pm)
you are a captive audience make people use their credit cards.
Good call - they should have a video shopping channel.
oh I like that one.. have it delivered when you get off the flight.. .ooooh that would be great especially if you have pissed off your wife because you were gone for a holiday/birthday/wedding anniversary
They can partner with QVC or the German television stations that provides programming for inflights...
so many ideas.. so little time
They can partner with QVC or the German television stations that provides programming for inflights...
so many ideas.. so little time
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