Bear sighted in Bavaria, first time in 170 years

Why don´t the sheep farmers just grin and "bear" it?

There is a chance. A group has offered a large area of land to house the bear and keep it away from humans. they just hope they get to the bear before the hunters do. The WWF has also reluctantly agreed that one of the only options is to kill it

Oh, boy. This should make "Vatertag" this Thursday really interesting.

Instead of just going to the woods and dragging around a keg of beer on a wagon and drinking themselves silly, the men can go on a bear hunt, as well.

Latest news from the BBC would seem to indicate that the bear has returned to Austria (or the hunters are too dumb to find it),

link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/5010432.stm

People im off to a hut tomorrow morning in the LINZ area and was wondering if anyone knew where the brown bear is

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The hunters don't even know where it is, but somehow TT is going to have the answer...

wish i could go but im off out tonight, Im going to

Not even close, only if he really is the pope's bear and can fly.

He's in the online chat at the moment complaining about how nobody hangs their food up in the trees like in the US.

Last seen using the Gents at the Augustiner-Keller

Has anyone actually sighted this bear? I'm wondering if it isn't just a starved, hungover Bavarian who got lost after the Fruhlingsfest.

Maybe he's a bit like my bear... no threat to anyone, but he just gets peckish from time to time...

Sid, that is one skinny-ass bear.

No wonder he's going after the sheep.

(Cute, though.)

The bear has been identified as JJ1, a bear brought up in captivity but set free in Italy. Like its mother and its brother, JJ2, it has never developed reticence towards humans; according to the German teletext (ARD), it comes from a "problem family". (A little whine for the bear here)
It is clever enough to cross (German link) the Inntal-Autobahn without getting run over.

Joze and Jurka were the Slovenian immigrant parents of JJ1 and the brother JJ2.
Read about the family here.
take care,
space

Last I read the bear was going to be caught, and moved to the Wildpark in Poing, when they are done with its new enclosure..

That's an enclosure.

Like ensuring that something happens (as opposed to insuring).

'Kin Yanks and their spelling...

so how come the italians seem happy to have a few bears strolling about but the Bavarians get all stroppy about it?

You never noticed that they're all a bunch of pussies when it comes to anything they don't understand? (like wild animals)

Where I'm from, we've got bears fucking all over the place...no problem.

At first they thought it was of Dutch origin after they caught it in a camper van

Can someone change the title to say: Beer sighted in Bavaria. Cause that is what I see everytime this thread comes up.

Me with you, honey. Always makes me smile.

Right toughguy,
you ever noticed that here they don't run around with guns all the time like the "pussies" (or should we call them morons?) who go "huntin" in your part of the world.
If any bear would show up in a residential area (like down here) in any part of Hicksvill USA it would be a kind of like the last stand at "The Alamo". Only that a lot of the morons with guns would be collateral damage caused caused by other morons with guns on the conquest to kill the bear.

But back to the topic, the bear has killed 6 more sheep in two diffrent residential areas about 4K's apart in the last 2 nights and seems to wander towards the austrian border once again. He has not treatend humans till now and is only active at night. The latest development is that they bring in 6 finnish bearhunting dogs who are trained to find bears. By no means I think this bear should be killed but it should be caught and brought to a national park or a zoo.

Relax there tough guy. You might want to look into a little something called a "sense of humour".

Scientists Baffled at bears behavior.
Baffling behavior
Take care in the woods,
space

"Baffling Bear Behavior" - Sort of reminds me of Monty Python's "Confuse a Cat".

Do you think I should tell the Munich parliament? 'Jack the cat...the solution to Munich's great bear problem'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/5067912.stm

Great, CPM. Maybe Bavaria should borrow that cat instead of using Finnish dogs that can't take the heat.

www.brunoderbaer.de

It's over. They shot him dead.

Booooooooo.

Maybe we should give bears guns, so that they could shoot humans who were annoying them!

The youth organization of BUND (Bund Naturschutz Deutschland), an environmental protection organization, is planning to don "extremely realistic" bear costumes and blunder through the forests in order to distract the hunters. Idiots. Remind me of suicided bombers - let's all die for a good cause!

@sarabyrd: but at least they´re only endangering themselves!

seriously, i don't see any valid, logical reason why they had to kill the bear. there were plenty of options available to them, and to my knowledge, the bear had not attacked any person.

bastards.

yet . . . .

Seriously though, you're right there are other options available which should have been used but the bottom line is that the bear can not live in such close proximity with humans.

They'll still die as martyrs. Or get buggered by the bear - don't know what's worse.

They might enjoy being buggered by the bear!

The US Constitution says that we have the right "To keep and arm bears".

Bear got shot near Spitzingsee.

Oooh. That sounds painful..

This sucks. Who ever did that now has bad bear karma, like when you kill a cat, you get bad kitty karma.

What about all the flies that get mashed on a car windscreen ? Is that a super fly bad karma or do you just have to use the wipers ?

More Bears sited in the mountains.

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the Italians and Austrians don't seem to have great problems with it though

poor Bruno

Apparently the Austrians would have shot him if they'd got to him too.

Not everything brown from Austria is welcome in Bavaria.

Trigger happy Bavarians! The supposed "grace" period the bear had was a joke, as the Finnish trackers couldn´t find him till late last week. Then on day 1 of the shoot to kill order, he was eliminated. It seems to me that not everything was done to save this bear. Maybe this was the plan all along, hell of a lot simpler than having to set up a conservation area, or finding a new home for the bear...

I think the Bavarians want their mountains bear free period. Sure, humans were at risk and something had to be done, but I think they were simply too quick to jump to the gun. It´s the short term solution and the first bear in 170 years is now ready to be stuffed and put on display in Munich´s Jagdmuseum. I for one am surprised at the apparent lack of concern for the cultural/historical roots of these so called mountain folk. People just didn´t seem to care.

I don't know why with all the animal cruelty in the world but i really find this quite distressing that they shot him

I suppose it's that you would expect better from a country that prides itself on it's green status and technology, you would have thought a better solution than having some hairy arsed hunter blowing the bear away could have been found.

RIP Bruno

The difference between now and 170 years ago is that more people live close to or in the mountains and the Bavarian Alps are used intensively for leisure activities. There just isn't enough room to create a new conservation area, especially one large enough to cater for a omnivore of this size.

I'm no fan of needless trophy hunting and I also think that responsible bodies could have organised themselves better, got more local hunters behind attempts to capture the bear and then worked out a long term solution after his capture. Unfortunately capturing an bear is difficult enough in easy terrain, capturing a young bear in the Alps, with the resources that were made available.

I suppose nobody wanted to take a chance on an unpredictable and inexperienced young bear attacking people in an area that derives a hefty portion of it's income from tourism. It's a pity but wild animals don't give you much time to sit around and think up a solution. Nowadays a fast solution seems to be more important than the right one.

Edit: @ Bluedave

Hunters in this country may be hairy arsed but they have to pass a rigorous test in foresty, animal husbandry, weapons use and care and at least pay lip-service to the idea of sustainable hunting.

@Yeti: so every animal with which we share this planet with should be shot just because we have a problem living along side them?

According to the AZ last week he was one night asleep in fron t of a bloody police station!

Yeah, it is hard to have bears where there are a lot of humans. Maybe we need to accept there are some areas humans shouldn't use so intensively?