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Canadian police officer shot

Windsor Ontario

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hockeywidow
On Friday during the day a police officer was shot in the throat and in the chest in Windsor Ontario. He was in plain clothes but held his badge in his hand as he lay dead on the sidewalk infront of 40 witnesses. The two eighteen year old boys were arrested within an hour. They were also charged with drug possession as they were carrying crack cocaine. He leaves behind a wife and two small children, his daugther celebrated her 7th birthday on Saturday.

This makes me sick. What is this world coming to? What the fuck were two boys doing carrying a gun anyway? What makes them think it is ok to kill anyone let alone a police officer who was just doing his job?
Carm
A few years ago there was a Police officer killed in Manitoba, he was doing a road side check on a stolen vehicle- he approached the car, the driver pulled a gun, called the Police officer a traitor as he was Aboriginal origin, and shot the police officer, they did find the guy about 2 weeks later. sad.gif

Last year in Alberta 4 police officers were killed in a Drug Raid at an old Farm house- outside of Edmonton. sad.gif

Its scary to think this is happenening anywhere, but Canada, where we are suppose to be so passive and peace loving. dry.gif
hockeywidow
It is scary to think this can happen anywhere. You don't expect it to happen in your own backyard. It is a very scary world we live in, I hate to think about what it will be like when my kids are 18.. sad.gif
Showem
Cops get killed sometimes. Part of the risk of the job. I don't see why this has you up in a fuss anymore than any other person getting murdered.
Keydeck
QUOTE (hockeywidow @ May 7 2006, 9:05 am) *
They were also charged with drug possession as they were carrying crack cocaine.
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What the fuck were two boys doing carrying a gun anyway? What makes them think it is ok to kill anyone let alone a police officer who was just doing his job?

I think you've answered your own questions.

Unfortunately this doesn't move me in the slightest. People, especially those in law enforcement are killed everyday and everywhere. It happens, it's part of the world that we live in. Perhaps Canada is supposed to be peace loving, but it only takes one bad apple with a handgun. If I knew the guy or his family personally then perhaps I'd feel differently but there's simply too much other shit going on in the world for me to have any sort of emotional feeling about this one case.
hockeywidow
because he was just doing his job. To serve and protect the community, not get shot and killed
Johnny English
Statistically I think you will find a police officer has less chance of looking down the wrong end of a gun, than the guy working in a petrol station or drugstore.
Showem
Yeah, well, I'm sorry he's dead, but it's not like it was a bloody garbage man who was shot and killed in the line of duty, or a machinist who was shot and killed. Just doing his job means often being in dangerous situations with guns. It sadly happens sometimes. That's the risk of the job, as I said.
hockeywidow
I guess it just makes me sad. As a child I was taught to respect people, especially those who were just trying to help the community. My friend started police college last week, I haven't talked to him because his class has gone to Windsor to help out as many officers need time off. But it has been his dream since he was small to be a cop and help people, I doubt this would scare him off but I imagine many parents are trying to talk their sons and daugthers out of being cops
Keydeck
Also, do you know the full facts of exactly what happened. The cop was in plain-clothes, right? So what were the two kids doing? How did he approach them? What happened in the minute or so before the shooting?

Edit: It appears that he was on-duty and approached them as they were "allegedly involved in a drug transaction in a parking lot outside the store".

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Johnny English
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It is the first time in the force`s 120-year history that one of its officers has been murdered in the line of duty, CBC News reported.

Very sad but sounds like a statistically very safe job to me!
Carm
QUOTE (hockeywidow @ May 7 2006, 9:32 am) *
I doubt this would scare him off but I imagine many parents are trying to talk their sons and daugthers out of being cops

Why? I still think its noble job, many times thankless, but a noble job. Its in the line of duty, part of the job risk, just like a bush pilot flying rugged terraine, a military boy sent off to war, a football player breaking a leg to end his career. There is a risk with every job.
You find it sad as he had children, does his life mean less if he had no children? dry.gif

Yes, I think its sad, but...
Carm
on the stat- first in 120 years- that is with the Windsor Police, many more RCMP's are killed every year. In Canada, the bigger cities have their own Police, and then the RCMP do the country sides. Ontario also has there own Police and not as many RCMP.
Keydeck
QUOTE (Carm @ May 7 2006, 9:40 am) *
There is a risk with every job.

I got a bloody paper cut on my thumb the other day. Stung like hell.
Carm
I used to work at Burger King, those paper cuts from the burger wrap were wicked, then reaching to put pickles on the burgers- OUCH! I totally understand. smile.gif
Eleanor Rigby
QUOTE (Showem @ May 7 2006, 9:20 am) *
Cops get killed sometimes. Part of the risk of the job. I don't see why this has you up in a fuss anymore than any other person getting murdered.

I agree, I really can't see why him being a cop makes this any more tragic than any other such situation. You enter a job like that knowing there's an element of risk involved.

Not to say that I don't feel for those involved.
Keydeck
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Until March 3, 2005, a total of 187 officers from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and its forerunner force, the North-West Mounted Police (NWMP), had died in the line of duty since the 1880s. The shootings of four young officers in Rochfort Bridge, Alta., raise that total to 191.

Source

These were not all killed by the baddies though. Over 100 were killed in boat, car & plane related accidents. Sure it hits home more when the numbers are quite low. This was apparently the first officer from Windsor killed in the line of duty. But if you look at it on a global or even national scale then I find it hard to feel any particularly deep emotion.
hockeywidow
I don't know what to say, I don't think his life was more important because he had children but I feel bad for those children who will grow up without knowing their father. I realize many children grow up with only one parent, is this part of the problem? Will his children bury their sorrows in a life of drugs and crime? I just feel the world is a little less safe today with a dead police officer and children carrying guns.
Keydeck
These were not children. They were 18 year olds which makes them adults.

I wouldn't for a second assume that his kids will "bury their sorrows in a life of drugs and crime". That's not just a "glass half empty" thought, that's the "glass in bone dry and smashed to bits 'cause it fell off the edge of the table whilst someone was reaching for the ketchup".

In fact, the world is possibly a little bit safer because of what has happened. Yes, a cop is dead but on the other side two people dealing in drugs are off the streets. No doubt the Canadian police force are going to be pretty pissed off right now which will most likely lead to a bit of a swoop down on crime. I'm not saying that his death was in any way worth it, but neither would I agree that the world is a little less safe because of the incident.
Carm
Always great to know you are there Keydeck with the links for us! biggrin.gif

Last year when the 4 officers in Alberta where killed that did shock everyone, as it was 4 at once in a big drug bust. sad.gif

Canada with its vastness of land, has the problem that alot of Illegal pot farms are setting up, there was one down the road from my parents summer place- the pot was over a 1km square land, about 70 illegal Chinese immigrants were arrested in connection with a bunch of pot farms in the old farm properties of Manitoba. Funny thing, I used to play in those fields or go horse back riding there. ohmy.gif
hockeywidow
I realize they are adults in the eyes of the law, which will hopefully give them a stronger sentence, but think back to when you were 18, in Canada you can't even drink yet!!
Showem
Yes you can. 18 is legal age in half the provinces in the county. Hockeywidow, my best advice to you is to stop dwelling on the fact that this guy is dead and left behind a family and instead focus on that he was doing his best to protect others, died doing something he was proud of, and that his family won't be finanically at a hardship because of how he died.
Keydeck
According to me Googling it depends Showem. Some places are 19.

Legal drinking age by province
Carm
not in Ontario! Its 19.
Think its about half and half- most are either 18 or 19. But all the Boarder States are 21, so the Boarder towns are full of Drunk Ami Uni Students. blink.gif
Thanks for Link there Keydeck- okay, so most are 19 in Canada, but Showem and I grew up in the 2 of the 3 provinces that allow at 18! Wonder if there is a coincedince there! ;-)
hockeywidow
not in Ontario, just Quebec?
Showem
Sorry, I edited. I wanted to get that in there quickly.
Keydeck
QUOTE (Showem @ May 7 2006, 9:55 am) *
Yes you can. 18 is legal age in half the provinces in the county. Hockeywidow, my best advice to you is to stop dwelling on the fact that this guy is dead and left behind a family and instead focus on that he was doing his best to protect others, died doing something he was proud of, and that his family won't be finanically at a hardship because of how he died.

I agree...and more so that the guys were caught and will be punished for it. You kill a cop and you are not going to get away with it.
hockeywidow
yes I am sure the family is proud of their father for serving and protecting their community but being proud isn't going to tuck them in at night.
mrbobke
Amazing that it took so long for this to happen, given Windsor's location...

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