Routers

Hi all

Now I have my spangly 16mb DSL from Alice installed, and have confirmed that the router I brought with me from the UK won't find the DSL line, I want to get a new Wireless Router.

I assumed I could head to a shop, find the one I want, buy it and install. But a colleague at work asked me if I had ordered analogue or ISDN DSL

Now, I am pretty up on this sort of thing generally, but this threw me a curveball

Does anyone know if this actually matters? I was hoping to head to K&M today and purchase a DSL Wireless Router - But in all honesty I don't know if ISDN or Analogue was ordered for my phone line/DSL package as a friend did it.

Hailp!

ISDN or analogue? Makes no difference.

Is yours a Wireless modem router or just router as you say in your tiitle?

The German DSL Protocols are different to UK ones..

We need more info is we are to help you further!

G

Sorry - I currently have a BT Voyager 2100 Wireless Modem router - This only supports a maximum downstream of 8mb anyway, but only supports the UK standard.

I want to get the equivelant, I know people with the D-Link Wireless Modem routers that say they are superb, and K&M have them for a reasonable price.

If you are saying that the analogue/ISDN thing is a non starter, then I just need a Wireless Modem Router that supports german DSL (Annex B ) and PPoE - Which is great because I can get that today for under €50

DSL is an ADD-ON to ISDN or Analogue.

If you have received your splitter.. the USUALLY it means your DSL element has been or will shortly be activated!

G

D-Link or Netgear are fine! but DO NOT update the firmware with English firmware from their site!

Yep - Got the splitter and the net is up and running.

I need to get another filter/splitter though (I am presuming it is the same as the uk in that respect) as the net won't work if someone is on the phone.

Thanks for the speedy help as always Satman

Yes.. You need to get a Splitter if you wish to make/receive calls at the same time.

No Other filters are needed

Good luck
G

I had a similar problem and 4 techy visits and 600 euros or so latter in fee's and new equipment the problem got solved. Moved, set up line blah blah blah, DSL didn't work, techy guy came in said DSL line not working, T-com techy guy came in said line worked other techy guy came back blah blah blah, turned out the modem part of the router died 1 in 1000 chance of that happening but it took four visits (2 by the DSL guy and 2 by T-com) to figure that one out. Thankfully Media Mart let me return the router after opening installing throwing stuff away or I would have been out another 100 euros.

If your interested I have wireless router and wireless router and modem.

should have gone T-Online you get everything free.. splitter & router/modem

what you want is a wirless Router/Modem make sure it is a modem too or do you already have one? just a plain router would not work either.

Yup - I have 16mb from Alice. I knew what I wanted in terms of the router with built in DSL modem - It was just that a colleague threw me a curveball by mentioning ISDN instead of Analogue, so I wanted to double check.

I got a splitter and modem from Alice, but I have 2 PCs and a laptop - 1 is wired and 2 are wireless

At the moment I have jerry rigged the modem into a switch with an Access Point delivering wireless. Each of the PCs can force dialup, or share each others connection if it is live - But it is a mess and I want to clean it up with a single box (Wireless Modem Router)

I need an additional splitter as the PCs are in the study and the main telephone is in the living room. Meaning that currently the phone is connected directly to the socket (not through a splitter) and the modem is connected to a splitter into another socket.

Same happens in the UK if you don't have microfilters fitted to each socket with a device attached (Phone etc). You get a crackly line and can only use one or the other.

Thanks for the replies everyone

OK i see what you are doing and what you want to have.

Any DSL Wireless Splitter/Modem should be ok. Not sure on prices. So go for it.

Would the tel work on another splitter? never tried it myself, would be interesting to know.

this is how you want it on the pc side Los Bandidos - Sunday 12.Sep.2004 and two over wireless.

I have a Netgear DG834GB which I am happy with. The GB indicates the German version of the 834.

About DSL and ISDN or analogue... It is the splitter that deals with this: the splitter that Deutsch Telekom provide has a jumper inside to select ISDN or analogue. The jumper alters the amount of bandwidth reserved for the phone line - it is slightly more than doubled for an ISDN line when compared with an analogue line.

About splitters... In the UK, you can have a splitter attached on each phone extension to allow a DSL connection at an extension rather than at the master socket. I understand this is not possible with German telephone wiring as phone extension are not simply connected in parallel, as in the UK, apparently.

Yep, thats pretty much what I have had for years in the UK, so I am just replicating that here.

The splitters contain ADSL filters, every telephony device connected into any phone socket in the home should be filtered. It isn't always possible to have the phone in the same socket as the modem. Especially in a house where you might have a number of phones. So you filter each device.

This is what you need to do in the UK, and my experience last night tells me it is the same here. It stops me connecting to DSL if the telephone is in use, and disconnects the DSL if it is on when the phone is used.

In the UK I would by a filter for the socket the phone is connected to - So I will attempt the same over here

I'll double check that at the shop then - Seems strange that all telephones in the house would be forced to use the same socket as the modem as soon as you install DSL??

Fingers crossed

I am saying nothing!..

or get a cordless phone and plug the base station into your DSL splitter

Yeah - I think that's what most people do here - just extend the phone line to where you want the DSL to be and put the splitter, DSL router and base station there.

Uh am I being dumb or doesn't DSL stand for Digital Subscriber line (or something similar) if so then it wouldn't be analog would it?

DSL uses the extra (unused) capacity to send Digital Signals over standard copper telephone lines.

I have a cordless phone, but don't want the base station in the study, as when I am charging the phone overnight, if someone rings, it would probably wake the kids in the next room.

I am picking up a second splitter (with inbuilt filter) this evening, so fingers crossed it will sort it out for me.

Firstly, my previous posting was modified.. not by myself, so it makes fuck all sense, and should be ignored.!

Secondly
Yes DSL is Digital subscriber line..

This DSL element can be added to any line, as long as its within 6KM of the T-kom exchange.. (Further for arcor)

There are NOT any Dip switches of any discription in the splitter as it is a Common device for both ISDN or analogue services.

Donkey shit!

G

I´d personally go for the netgear gear because as far as i read the reviews it has the best and most stable signal espcially when you have 2 pc s spread in the house.

just a litte tip

I'm not sure that another splitter will help. It depends how your phone extensions are wired up. I once had 4 extensions here on a simple switch. When one of the extensions was active all the other extensions were automatically deactivated. So if someone phoned on an extension in the living room there was no way of getting a connection from another room. This was unlike England, where 2 people on different extensions in the house could join in a phone conversation.

Not sure on that one SP, but its a moot point anyway as apparently the only people that can supply dsl splitters are the ISPs themselves - At least thats what K&M and Conrad both told me.

Seems very bizarre to me, if you have a decent sized apartment (as I do) or even a house, and you get DSL - You have to plug all your phones into 1 splitter.

It doesn't seem to make an awful lot of sense.

DSL is supposed to add to the quality of your communications within your home, not force you to alter what you have had for years.

If I was in a house and my study was upstairs, I would be mighty hacked off to have to go and by additional handsets when I have been previously happy with 1.

Ah well, base station is in the study until I find a better solution

No it wasn't.

If it makes fuck all sense now, it's because it made fuck all sense when you wrote it.

There are two DIP switches in my DSL splitter...

Sodding hell!

Did you borrow that from Noah?

Those splitters are no longer issued, I think they stopped making them 3 years ago!

G

I have a Linksys Home Gateway. Does the trick very well. I configured it once 6 months ago and haven't touched it or had to reboot it since. It's a DSL modem, router, wireless access point, 4 port switch all in one tiny box. No software needed on your PCs either. The connection is always on (it will redial automatically even it you're not there). And coming from Cisco, you know it will be a good product.