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Using Sky Multiroom in Germany

Possible workaround

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markenolam
Having just purchased a second digibox from ebay I was wondering if it was possible to use Sky multiroom over here.
After some research it appears not as the box must allow the incoming call and then outgoing call from sky (this rules out using a dialler).
Then I had the thought that perhaps you could use a voip connection such as skype-in as it allows you to select a uk phone number then reroutes it to your pc wherever you are. Does anyone have any knowledge or experience in this apparent digital tv holy grail. The other implication of this is that it would be possible to have 2 digiboxes in different places using the same package for just an extra tenner. The other digibox is currently waiting for me in the uk to collect so I can't test it out.
Satman
Skype is a software programme for your PC.

As of yet, and I stand to be corrected, but none of the voip providers allow DATA traffic.

I even tried to connect using my English number through my Fritzbox... No sucsess.

So.. in short, no, it will not work(Easily)

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Adi
No idea but to use multiroom you'd need both boxes connected to a phone line, wouldn't you? The discount is only applied to the 2nd box because it is connected to the same line as the 1st box.
Isn't a 2nd FTV card enough for you or do you really need to watch 2 box-office movies or 2 footie matches at the same time?
Raffles
Adi, I have a FTV card, but I CANNOT watch movies or football matches. I presume you are referring to Sky channels.
Adi
???

I am to assume that you're a.k.a. Mark Malone?

If you have 2 boxes and you're only relying on FTV cards why not just get another FTV card? One FTV card in each box..problem solved. The 2nd card for multiroom only makes sense (is only possible?) if you subscribe to a Sky package.
luke
How about this dialer or this one (it's cheaper)?
markenolam
No Adi I am not Raffles (Im better looking biggrin.gif ) and I was wanting to give the old digibox to my littlun (with restricted viewing of course) so she could watch her cartoons when Im watching the footy.
The problem with FTV is you only get the kiddy channels that arent interesting to kids.
A dialler alone is no good as the the connection is a 2 way thing, ie; Sky call the box and ask the box to call back.
Adi, you are right. After a bit of searching I have found some info that says the v90 modem in the digibox wont work with voip lines. Apparently if sky shortened the response time of their system it could work. They arent willing to do it yet but are coming under more pressure as more people in the uk are switching to voip and dont want to keep a BT line just for sky.
markenolam
I correct myself Satman was correct not Adi. Adi was just rude, It shouldnt matter to anyone what reasons I have for wanting multiroom, just information whether it is feasible.
jg.
I have thought of doing this for a while...but you don't want a VOIP application - you need the following:-

Digibox modem plugged into a Telephone Line Simulator (this is basically a little box that allows two modems to be connected to each other).

A PC with an analogue modem (e.g. 56K) connected to the other side of the Telephone Line Simulator. The PC needs to have Internet access, ideally permanent (like DSL with autoconnect). The PC needs to run an application that will take incoming serial traffic (from the modem) and send it via a telnet connection (probably over an SSH connection) to a PC in the UK.

The PC in the UK needs to be permanently conencted to the Internet and use a dynamic DNS service (like www.noip.com) to allow the remote PC to find it. This PC then needs to run a server application to service the incoming connection from the remote PC (probably telnet over SSH) - the output from the telnet server should be directed straight to a modem on a local UK telephone line (for SKY Multiroom, the same line as any other Digiboxes).

In theory this kit would have to be up 24x7 but SKY only actually get the digiboxes to dial out once a month, apparently some fixed number of days from your SKY billing date.

Personally, I thought the above was too complicated and I would rather just pay up.

P.S. I forgot, there is also the issue of passing the number dialled by the Digibox to the remote system. This could prove to be quite difficult and one might have to settle for dialling a fixed number at the Uk end and hope SKY don't change it.
Adi
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Adi was just rude
Rude in what way??? You mean this?
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Isn't a 2nd FTV card enough for you

OK, now I re-read it could seem a bit sharp. Not my intention. It wasn't sarcasm.

raffles made a reply in this thread which didn't seem to match the subject but did appear to link to a post of his in another thread. Therefore my query to him.

In trying to help someone you need to know what the requirement is. I made a prefectly civil request and suggestion and was trying to help you out but to do that one needs more information to give you a possible/alternate solution.

Yes, the answer to your question is 'No'. Does that help you any further? Would you like to explore other alternatives? If you clearly state your requirement up-front you'll get a better and quicker answer.

My intention was to help you further. Now I'm sorry I bothered.

btw. You can watch the 2 BBC kids channels and 2 kids POP channels with a FTV card. Maybe this is an acceptable alternative.
markenolam
Fair enough Adi and I probably jumped in a bit heavy there and for that I apologise. Must learn to count to ten (I must learn to count!) and realise most things here are done with nothing but good intentions. I certainly don't want people to feel they shouldn't have bothered otherwise nobody would get any help at all.
Thanks for the input and I will probably get a FTV card but it would have been nice to get all channels for just a tenner.
Jg's method ,although technically brilliant, definitely seems more trouble than its worth.

Ok, came across this forum discussion which seems to pretty much explain why its not possible using voip even if you were in the uk. Which of course is where my digibox is located (in case big brother is listening sad.gif )

http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic6317.html
Satman
Alright...

No It is not possible..

The best way, and the most effective is to pay the extra 11GBP and have the second box on an official subscription..

for the 21quid a month, the flexibillity is outstanding..

as of now, there i NO simple way..

Sory

G
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