Will the Queen say sorry?

Nicole, just where do you come from?
I grew up in Essex, (I come from Wickham Bishops and went to The Plume School in Maldon), your description of the Essex accent is spot on. Without going into a whole dictionary of phrases, you will come across words that have no meaning ( a bit like my posts here really) if anyone says "Wotcha" to you, it means "How are you doing" honest.

I am from the London Essex Borders. Born in the East End but we moved to Chingford when I was small. All of my family except my parents and sister live in Essex in a particularly horrible place called South Woodham Ferrers which won the distinction of being one of the top 40 most horrendous places to live in the UK. The original Corned beef city!! (except we don't say corned beef we say corn beef!!)

Isn't Wickham where that newspaper article said both Bush and Kerry's forfathers came from on the Mayflower?

Bloody hell Slack; You should have told us! **Clenched Fist on chest** "Oh say can you see..."

My son ( Lives with his dad) goes to Newport Free Grammar near Bishops Stortford, he lives in Henham. that can't be too far from you Mack

Hello, you two !

After hearing the interview i feel absolutly relieved. Besides that the guy sometime just spoke a little bit too fast, i could catch on everything. Any average american is way more hard to understand for me.
That type of english accent reminds me of eric idle or the cook in fawlty towers (forgot his name), or am i off the mark with that conclusion ?

So my problem seems to be my awful lack of pratice in speaking and writing. Well, at least one these abilitys needs to be improved...
Even after many years i still feel ashamed when i make a mistake when speaking italian, not considering the fact, that it's still a foreign language to me.

About Danny Baker: I guess i know him. Isn't he presenting some sort of a car-magazine on bbc world ? I recently saw a report about how far you can drive with just one tank of fuel; Route: London to Edinburough.

Thanks for your help, Nicole !

Supposedly The hull of the Mayflower now resides in the Jordans in Buckinghamshire as the roof of a barn.

I think you should ask "that bloke off the radio" that one seeing as he knows him. There is a photo of Jeremy Clarkson on Danny's BBC page maybe you are getting the two confused. He is a journalist who writes and presents mainly on cars although he does have a column in the Sunday times where he mulls over things that irritate him (quite a lot)!!

Yeah the cook from Fawlty Towers has London/Essex accent.

Wickham Bishops aint that far from Wickford but far enough, which is where the politicians stem from. Wickham Bishops is no where near Bishops Stortford, its located between Witham and Maldon.

My Brother and brother-in-law both worked in South Woodham Ferrers, its just the other side of maldon.

hee, hee - That made me smile! - Thought of Dan's voice coming out of JC's mouth and vice-versa!

The show on BBC World is a shortened version of Top Gear presented by Jeremy Clarkson on BBC One in the UK - What Danny Baker know's about cars you could fit on the rear wiper of a Beford Rascal!

Come on Neil, what are you waiting for?

There are plenty of other things about Glasgow you can be thankful you aren't going to experience - The dialect is the least of your worries!

**Holds up red-rag and runs in the other direction**

See Yeu Jimmy!!

You are making me curious. What is so terrible up there in Glasgow anyway ?

The Scottish

Hmmm...prejudice or experience ?

Only having a laugh - Glasgow's not a bad city - by British standards anyway

There are far worse.

That was my first thought and i admit, i had to smile while reading your post, but because i've often heard about the problematic relation between english and scottish people i just wanted to be sure... :$

Well I have just got round to reading this thread.
Nicole the best english is spoken in Essex!. I am sure Mack will back me up

welcome to the board zwackel.

Hi bBulldog !

I don't know if you've already noticed that we seem to live in the same bloody city...funny !
So in which part of Hagen do you live ? My residence is between "Altenhagen" and "Ischeland"...

Well I dont actually live in Hagen, that is where I work.
I live in Wetter the same as Neil. As Wetter is not well known, I wrote Hagen in my profile.
But it is still 'just down the road'
I know tha area a bit around Ischeland. Drive through there often.

Well imho if you write Hagen or Wetter, it doesnt make any difference at all to the world. Who could ever possibly know these two hicktowns ?
Ok, Wetter is quite idyllic when you pass that bridge accros the river,
but after that nice view everything is quite disapointing (mabye its just a matter of taste...)
Are you in the same business as Neil ? (I've recently talked to him...)

Fahrenheit 9/11 is about to start, have to go...

bye

Hi

yes I am in the same business as Neil but in a different firm.
I dont live far from Neil in Grundschottel.

will catch you later I wanted to watch that too

check the time on Bully's post... spooky

Hehe Slackmack, are you still on "Sommerzeit" ?
Turn back your clock, or you might get up too early tomorrow (and who wants that? )...
But you are right, its spooky anyway...
oups second commercial break is over...back to the telly

QUOTE]I think the Queen should say sorry because it is time to move on.[/QUOTE]
Saying sorry is not moving on.

Then what is?

[quote]There is not a single day in the media about how Tommy and his Jack russell give Gerry what for and now we have a whole TV station dedicated to it (UK History)!

[/quote]The war is history that is why it’s on a history-dedicated station.

Let me see UK history is probably a few million years old so why when I turn it on a nearly all the programmes about a few decades in the first half of the 19th century.

[quote]The Americans don't go on about the war as the Brits do and if was not for them and the Polish and Czech spitfire pilots we would have lost the war.[/quote]

Again, you are sadly and badly misinformed, the American Forces Network remind their soldiers on average every 20 minutes about American military brilliance through the years as far back as their War of Independence from the Brits.

Is the AFN the media the outlook of all 258 million US citizens? I don’t think so but I do think you need to get out more mate if is that all you listen to!

[quote]OK they did not get bombed as much as say UK but they lost a lot more of their service men and women than the British.

[/quote]I would like to see figures to validate this, and only figures against the Germans.

Then look it up!

[quote]After the war it was mainly their money under the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Germany and got Europe back on its feet again.[/quote]
If Germany hadn’t had had its war debt cancelled by the Allies then they would still be paying to this day. It wasn’t considered advantageous to enforce the debt payment.

Treaty of Versailles maybe!

[quote]I recently visited Dresden and was impressed by the architecture and reconstruction efforts that were going on after all they had been through including a Russian invasion. It's a amazing how they've kept their spirits up and how the rest of Germany (grudgingly) and from donations from all over the world have help it to be rebuilt.

[/quote]And your point is?

Why don’t you go there and see for yourself it’s only a few hours by train/car.

QUOTE]This is not the case in Britain where town's cities and the countryside (and their people) have been allowed to rot after their purpose had been served.[/quote]
Rot?

Lack of investment/ Urban Decay/Social Problems/ German word for Red

[quote]As an ex RAF man myself I honestly feel bomber Harris was a mad man because he directed his bomber crews on a dangerous mission getting alot of them killed in the process when he could have concentrated bombing in the Rhur region stopping the Nazi machine with better effect.

[/quote]Being Ex-RAF doesn’t qualify you to judge a mans sanity, Dresden was revenge for Coventry, the psychological effect on the then leaders of Germany probably caused them to reconsider any further massive raids against British cities.

Being you doesn’t qualify you to judge a man’s sanity either. Coventry was a large manufacturing base making weapons for the allied war cause and did not have the historical appeal of Dresden. This no disrespect to Coventry I’ve worked and lived there and with the regeneration that’s going on there it’s a great place to be. Coincidentally why did the Germans hardly touch the west of London?

[quote]But instead he killed many thousands innocent civilians, many who were refuges fleeing the war and at the same time sending experienced crews to their deaths in a time of crew shortages this was a bad mistake.[/quote]

The bomber crews had a job to do, they did it. All soldiers (loose term referring to all services) are pawns on the war games board, even the thickest soldier in an infantry company knew he was cannon fodder.

Now we’re talking! The bomber crews job was to win the war as soon as possible
and go home to their families. Misallocation of Bomber crews to suicide missions will only lead to lead to a shortage of crews and prolonging the war or maybe that was the plan in the first place! To class people who defend and lay their life on the line for their country as pawns and thick is a tremendous disrespect to those involved.

[quote]To erect a statue of the man in London to me is not one of shame but more of embarrassment of a society that’s completely lost the plot. [/quote]Its called honouring somebody who played his part in WWII, the man didn’t stroll out of the Officers mess and plan one raid you know, he just happened to become synonymous with the one that levelled a city belonging to our enemy.

How about a monument to the bomber crews who died? Since when has murdering 50,000 Refuges been an honour? So Slackmack are the German people the still the enemy to you? If they are why don’t you leave and come home to blighty?

[quote]Then again some people make a lot of money out of war[/quote]
At last a grain of truth, somebody profits from war, wow what a revelation...not
[quote]and quell their underclass at the same time.

So we agree, there is profit in war is that what war’s about? Good to see you a conscience at last![/quote]

Just what does the L stand for in your name... Lenin perhaps, you do sound like a

It means Love out of Bizarre Love Triangle a song by New Order a Manchester Band and my Home City. Funny enough along with other Lancashire towns and Cities it recruits soldiers to the Queen Lancashire Regiment the highest Decorated Regiment in the History of the British Army. Where do you come from, Colchester perhaps? Is that not the British Forces Prison Town?

Me thinks you’re a facist!

Whilst you are entitled to your opinion on any given subject just who the hell do you think you are to come to this board and start making this kind of accusation directly against another member?

Perhaps you should take note of what goes on here - We are a happy bunch who might disagree (regularly) with each others' opinions and argue our own cause but we certainly do not attack each other personally in this manner.
The last person who behaved in this way was expelled recently.

Disgusting behaviour.

Reaaally I always thought next to Norfuk (of course!) it was inverness

Its astonishing to see, how delicate this war-issue still is for many of us,
particulary because I assume that most (maybe all) of the people here on board haven't been directly involved in ww2.

Let me keep it short:
Insulting other people for having their own oppionion is bullsh**
Recriminations should be a part of the (yes bloody) history.
Bombing cities and murdering people (wether here or there) is bullsh**
Making heroes out of those who did is b*, well you know...

and:
Who ever believed that people would act like "normal human beeings" during a war ? (a war brings only the worst in us to light)

Actually I don't really think it is, at least it's not for me & the people I know, i was chatting quite normally the other day to a German coworker about living during the war (she did as a child). I also never go out & find myself saying "oh well during the war" I mean who bloody does :$ it is history but it's over...

Talking of which are there any guy fawkes parties going on Friday

I remember a neighbour showing me photos of himself in his Hitler Youth uniform. Now someone of my Nan's generation may have been offended as she had to live in the East End during the blitz but to me it was an old man showing me some photos of him and his family. He was the friendliest bloke I had ever met. He used to tell me how much he admired Mrs. T. In a joking manner he said she was the product of an illicit affair of an Nazi officer and a British woman because she was 'a strong woman' . It made me laugh because I had to agree!!!

...Uncle Albert in "Only Fools and Horses"

Ah you got me there, but I haven't seen him in the pub lately

Wasn't there supposed to be a new series? or did I miss it?

Uncle Albert says "oh well during the war" and so does my mum.

And, thanks for letting us know what BLT stands for, I thought it was sandwich filling.

I love that song and since reading your post this morning, I have had Bizarre Love Triangle on my Internal Jukebox all day!

Bootifool Leky

I heard that too: Inverness and New England are the only places where "proper" english is the local accent. Not even the BEEB does proper english any more.

One other thing... The Queen doesn't speak queen's english... But Richard von Weisacker (former german president) does.

Now we've all been bushwhacked again

The statistics have been looked up and you were incorrect!

I wasn't and havn't


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