The purpose of TT Tuesday is to try new bars

The entire point of TTT is to try * NEW * locations.. If you don't know about the last 2 place then TRY THEM.. Easy enough...

I will succeed in prying you "TT Old timers" away from all the standard haunts, to try new places .. All of these place and lots more are listed in the TT bar/Resturant section.. Again, try something new for a change, you might actually find a place you like...

Um, actually, it's better to go to someplace that someone does know -- like the rotating Curry Night. Places need to be checked out and found suitable before you bring in a huge crowd. The "new" aspect is about being "welcoming to newbies". Feel free to plan other events at new places, but to try to get the entire crowd (including newbies who're getting their first impression of TT-organized events) to all try some place that isn't vouched for by veterans... well it's a bit of a risk.

Actually, the entire point of TT Tuesday is drinks with TTers, and to provide an easy lift-off for new members to get their TT feet wet with live meet-ups. New places in and of themselves never has been an official policy, though whim has tended to "spread the wealth," so to speak, at least amongst the TT-Friendly bars of this little 'burg.

But, I won't argue with you further if you insist that the point of TT Tuesday is to go to new places. So, feel free to assert it until your heart's content. You can also assert the world is flat and that moon is made of cheese if you have time.

Actually, to the best of my understanding TTT is not about trying new locations.

Its about making a central social evening for TT, for newbies to comeone along to a place where we can be easily found, at a bar that can easily cope with our size group fluctuations and to keep TT sponsors The Arc and Gunther Murphys happy.

If you wanna run around munich trying lots of other bars, then go ahead - I'm not stoping you.

As for your other suggestions :

Bar Muenchen - way too shicky micky for a TTT.

Tapas - Can they easily cope with a group size change? Does everyone have to eat?

You wanna go somewhere else on a TTT, then organise a separate trip to that bar so that people can try it. Then maybe it'll get considered.

Since when? TTT has always been scheduled for regular haunts (GMs, Arc) with the occasional "Other" apearing. Unlike rotating (alternative) curry where we're trying new places, TTT has only ever been -- and should only be -- in a place where we know the service is good and know they can fit us. Bonus points if they speak passable English. TTT has never, ever been about trying out new bars in town -- it's only been about meeting up, and open to meeting new people.

woof.

May as well throw in a few cents here.

Toytown Tuesday was originally held every week in Günther Murphy's. It was that way from day one and for a long time. Why do you think we get some free pints there. It's not because we popped in once every three weeks, it was because they knew that we would be there on the Tuesday as soon as our little leggies could get out of the office. It was about going out for a few school-night pints and yes, getting to meet some new people who were always made welcome. So for starters, it was never about trying new places. That was something that I helped to push in because I liked trying new places and thought that the two could be combined.

Like anything it's a dynamic thing and so saying that it's about one particular thing is silly. Sure, it's touted as a newbie-friendly night out, but most of the events are that anyway. I love the idea of trying new places, but as far as most newbies these days are concerned, Murphy's and The Arc are new places. Then you have the fact that for more established Munich residents the places DK suggested aren't exactly new, untried locations. That's not saying straight off that they are not valid suggestions, although I'd disagree with some, but simply that they, like anywhere, are only new if you've not been before.

If I don't like a venue proposed for Toytown Tuesday, then I'll either suggest something different or simply not go. In its current form, when it is not a Murphy's/Arc designated night then anyone at all is entitled to make a suggestion as to a location. If you get a couple of people in agreement then it's generally set.

As has been mentioned by a couple of people already there are a few guidelines to bear in mind. Don't just suggest your local boozer 'cause it's an easy 8 iron into the wind from your apartment. The place should be able to easily accomodate upwards of 20 people (when necessary) showing up without reservations. Yes, we have the signup list but that's just a rough guideline and numbers generally are higher. Standing areas are good because people can mingle rather than being stuck at tables. The staff should be made aware of what's happening so they can lay on extra bodies if required or at least know that loud English speaking punters are gonna show up. There's other stuff which can help a location be good but I'd see those as the main requirements.

This post no longer relevant.

I'm done...for now, except to say that I hope this discussion becomes it's own separate thread and doesn't detract from the planning of tomorrow's sesh

Well as of now there are only 2 people signed up..

Have fun you two, perhaps net TTT (Somewhereelse) a better location can be picked.

2006-04-18 pootle, tara

We are going to do it at Oktoberfest or something DK. Or maybe a really smokey, dark place (you know, the ones you absolutely love). You never seem to like any location that is picked for anything DK.

People do not sign up for TTT until late and has nothing to do with the location. It is just seen as a "turn up if you want" event, which is why it was held at the same place for so long, and now, to a certain extent, at the same two places.

kinell, what a negative miserable whinger you are, DK
judging by what you said before, you've never even actually been to Die Bank
you've already made your opinion known in plenty of posts on this thread, so just STFU already, will you?

Indeed. DK, why not come along anyway? I mean, if you do not like it then you can always sit in the corner and sulk. And you can write things like "I told you so" tomorrow.

Don't try to guess me, you will just be wrong. I have been to Die Bank.
Granted it was a while ago, but the place still sucked, and I wouldn't reccomend it to others.

As for the rest, all you people seem to want to always goto the same F'n places or to places nobody likes. The TT Resturant/Bar list is huge. I only post 4 random options. If you don't like them then go read thru it and come up with your own suggestions.

As for O'fest. If your a noobie or a "Always Do the same thing" TT'er than go to O'fest, Hell I'd go atleast once during the time, but to go EVERY DAY, and or to make every TT event during O'fest time happen there is just stupid.. I bet if they surved curry there, CN would be at O'fest too..

Not everybody thinks alike or likes the same things. Some people don't want to fall into the "Always do the same thing/place/location" group.
DEAL WITH IT!!!

which has been its advantage if we're honest. you know where it is and can drop by accordingly. all this running around to visit "new" bars doesnt really help the event.

you can bet your life that if they ever did serve decent curries in the beertents curry night would most certainly be there like a shot! and it wouldbe Curry Night every night during the Wiesn as well!

backt ot the point, I don't happen to think much of die Bank either but other people seem to like it and are happy to go, so FFS, DK, let it rest!

No comment!

@gideon
Your post sounds more like laziness than "Not helping the event".
How hard is it to write down the name/location on a piece of paper, or in a PDA? Break the mold.. Try something different.

That is not the point DK. TTT traditionally was at the same place every week. It was a regular occurrance where people KNEW where to go and where people would be without having to check TT every hour to check out where it could be. that is how it should be.

Now, if you have some great new places to go to then organise an event there. Grab the bull by its whatsits and take the innitiative. But you never do. You just sit there and moan about the organisation.

Check this thread out. Streeme has taken the innitiative and organised an event at a new place. Ain't that difficult really

That's true, so why don't you organise an alternative TTT, or even a different event altogether (maybe called something like 'Toytown Try Out a New Place.. TTTONP) on a different night (Thursdays or Mondays look like they're the most free). You could alternate between types of places like one week a bar, one week a restaurant etc and even post reviews (and possibly win free subscription if you take a photo).

As a side point - acceptance goes both ways

We have this problem with The Hash all the time, its great to try new places, but showing up to a place that is not ready for 40 people backfires. You need to test it with a smaller group first and get a good feeling, before opening it up to the critical eye of TT.

I agreee new places are great, but if it ain't broke,

Or DK- suggest another night to try drinks somewhere else, name it New Drinks night or something, and for the first 3 months only try new places!

@crawlie
So basically its "Well, This is the way we've always done it and were not going to change".. OK, I get it... I have tried, but it always comes back to "but we haven't been there before", then everybody comes up with excusses and then goes to one of the TT hangouts...

If I don't like a place, I just don't go. I do not goto a place just to sulk in the corner.. Don't care if its a TT event or not..

PS: Whoever moved/created this thread from the main one, thanks for munging my words and screwing with the title..

@DK. If that is how you want to put it then fine. The fact is - if it ain't broke then don't fix it.

You wanna fix it? Then ORGANISE SOMETHING. It really is not that hard. Come along to Andechs on Saturday - lots of people coming to that. Or Streeme's event? Or the other meet-ups organised in this little rubric that is "Events and Meet-Ups"

I bet you are in marketing. Continually moaning about wanting something new but not bothering to get off your arse to actually do anything about it and then blame the others

how do you know that it ain't broke? see the funny thing is that it is nearly impossible to know how many TTers would like to join for TTT, but don't for whatever reason (like, say, the locations have become tiresome).

true it is a good idea to support those pubs which support TT. but exploring new locations has a nice appeal.

And that is why we have 7 days in the week Chicago.

OK. So how about - you cannot please all of the people all of the time.

No matter what location you choose, somebody out there will not like it for some particular reason. That is the way it has always been.

Why does it have to be on Tuesdays?

Good point. I believe a very (in)famous TT'er did once suggest moving TT Tuesday to a Friday...

gee, really Crawlie? wow! you mean that a person can explore munich without Toytown? wow. thank you. that bit of knowledge has opened the doors of freedom. oh joy.

I do miss going for a swift drink or 3 on a Friday evening, early doors.
The whole office used to pile down to the local pub on a Friday after work when I worked in the UK, but it doesn't happen over here.

Yes apparently you can. So I have heard. Not quite what I meant but, hey, sometimes the meaning of things get lost along the way.

@Topsy. I totally miss the whole early doors thing. The whole concept is lost over here as bars and clubs have hijacked this whole "After Work" thing. I used to love finishing work, popping into the boozer for a few and then off home to dinner. That was basically the initial concept behind TTT if I was properly informed.

I'm so glad I found this thread to clarify the purpose of TTT.

It was all so confusing! Thanks guys.

Topsy, I miss after work drinks with the colleagues too. I also miss having colleagues I could stand to go for afterwork drinks with.

OK, then it looks like the Alt. Drinks night day has already been selected
Friday it is.. I believe I have time.. (Location To be selected by thursday)

@crawlie
1. No I'm not in Marketing (Againg don't assume)
2. I am planning on going to Andechs, so if you which to continue this discusion in person I'm all for it..

I can't always come to every event, I do have other things to do and places to go. But if the event is at a location that looks good, and I have the time, then I usually do go...

Perhaps it would have worked better as such had it not started at 7.30 then? Bit too late for an after-work thing.

Actually Jeeves, it did always start from around 5pm. It has just gotten later and later. But, for the GM's or Arc TTT's you will find people there around 6ish. Depends on the place I guess

Ah right, fair enough. I do remember turning up at GM's at about 6, being about third there and getting more than one free beer.
This is (I believe) the reason why Curry Night is starting at about 6.30 nowadays as some people don't go home before they go out.

which obviously a bar will only provide if they can be pretty much assured of a regular turn out, which i think a few short bods here have forgotten.

Not forgotten, as The Arc and GM's are permantly fixed on the TTT Location list.. It's the (Other Locations) week that needs work..

That seems an unwarranted response to Crawlie's reasonable post.

no it doesnt. topsy took first dibs and its sorted. cant realy see what your whinging on about to be honest, just because you personaly dont like a location?

Unfortunately I don´t usually get off work till about 6:30 or 7:00

Indeed Gids. If you want a change then get in early and make a suggestion. Also be prepared to call the place in advance and make a reservation, i.e. do a bit of work. If you like a place so much then do what you can to make it known.

Not a problem as I expect there might still be one or two dirty stopper-outers still hanging around at 7

Lets see what happens when Beer Garden season starts...