A place for the TT Alfisti

In oder to relieve other threads from an Alfisti hi-jack, I have created this thread for all TT Alfa owners and lovers, it seems there are a few of us around.

New models, old models ... any old Alfa chat is welcome here.
WH

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wot's your fave Alfa WH?

I used to love the GTV Spider (go Pinafrina!) now I am desparately in love with the BRERA.

What about 1970 FIAT 124 spiders?

you mean this sexy monster??

Goody, love me Alfas so I do. Here are a few of my favs:

33/2 Stradale


TZ2


1750 GTAm


And the hopefully soon in production 8C:

Nah, this here is a real babe...a Duetto. Edit: the pic is really small but no time to make it bigger...

Cue Simon and Garfunkel!

Tech specs for the new 8C Competizione:
ENGINE
Position front, longitudinal
No of Cylinders 8 in 90° V
Timing Gear 2 overhead camshafts per row
No of Valves/Cylinder 4
Turbocharging volumetric compressor
Capacity 4244cc (92 bore x 79.8 stroke)
Max Power Output 400bhp+ at 7000rpm
Peak Torque over 45kgm at 4500rpm

TRANSMISSION
Gearbox mechanical 6-speed
Position rear axle
Drive rear wheel

CHASSIS
Front Suspension dual wishbone
Rear Suspension dual wishbone
Front Brakes floating ventilated disc 380x34mm
Rear Brakes fixed ventilated disc 330x28mm
Front Tyres 245/40 R 20" x 8.5"
Rear Tyres 275/35 R 20" x 10"

DIMENSIONS-WEIGHT
Wheelbase 2595mm
Front Track 1610mm
Rear Track 1580mm
Length 4278mm
Width 1900mm
Height 1250mm
Weight Empty c 1500Kg
Fuel Tank Capacity 90 litres

PERFORMANCE
Top Speed 300 km/h +
0-100 km/h 4.5 seconds

As posted elsewhere, my last car (first in Germany) was a GTV 3 litre V6 and I loved every minute of driving it.

When I replaced it I wanted something just a little more practical, so I now have an Alfa 166, also the 3 litre V6 with about 225 BHP and I love that too.

I saw a press article about the Brera and it looks like it will have somewhere over 400 BHP, or is that just the top model?

Timmeh,
I do like those older competition models. Somewhere in my archives I have loads of photographs of old Alfas, Ferrari and many others from a few years of visiting Goodwood Festival of Speed, as I used to live very close to the event.

Here next to my desk I have two small models: The TZ1 (1963) and TZ2 (1964), I'd love to get my hands on a real one.

WH

phwoooooooar!

WH,
The Brera GTA will be the model sporting 405 horses and 4WD, it should be quite a weapon, and to me, probably the best looking bit of kit available at the moment

It's got a sexy ass too:

Unfortunately way above my price range, but I admit it does look very tasty and I could have quite some fun with one.

Although would I buy one in preference to a Maserati?
A close call!

I personally think it's far sexier than the Maserati, looks a bit more brutal too.

OK, one of each then:
A Maserati QP for style and the Brera for fun!

the BRERA has a nice ass too! mind you so does my 147! a nice shiny red curvaceous one! slurps!

I was actually thinking about this sexy monster:



I can't wait to get the dosh together to fix her suspension and get the TÜV.

Sin, that's nice!

Nice when she doesn't sit in my tiefgarage for months on end - yeah.

Isn't this basically the same subject as the WD-40 thread?

/runs away

No.

But thanks for the question!

I just took delivery of a 3.2 V6 Brera,awd with skyview roof, cant wait until the better weather so I can really try her out, the skyview roof is extra cool, at 1st it is a little distracting but when you get used to it, it seems like you are driving a very fast bubble.

Just read your profile and you're far too old to be driving such a sporty machine, but I would be willing to drive you round in it occasionly!

Yeah baby, bring on the Alfa love!

For at least 6 month periods, I have driven:

GTV6 2.5 -82
Alfetta 2000 -78
Spider 2.0 -84
164 V6 3.0 -92
Milano (75 here in Europe) 2.5 V6 -87

So no standouts there, pretty much the standards of the 80s really.

But I have also had the honor of driving:

33 S 16 V Permanent 4 -92 (actually the car I learned to drive in!)
Giulia Super 1.6 -67 (mint condition - my brother's baby)

My brother worked at an Alfa parts exchange, and we had a great time shuffling Alfas between hands and driving them inbetween. This was also in the US mind you, where Alfas are quite rare (and they stopped selling them there in 93 or so).

Finally, the only Alfa I ever owned myself (and how I miss it), a red Milano 3.0 V6 that pretty much looked like this:

[img]http://www.motorimania.net/manifestazioni/sportive/images_alfaromeo/d.alfa.romeo.75.evoluzione.11.jpg[/img]

Im by no means an Aflista . L have seen enough bad workmanship on those monsters to put me off for a lifetime and anytime anyone says theyre considering an Alfa I tend to quiver and convince them otherwise.
However...on from a purely style perspective...then well I must admit there have been some pretty examples over the years... this being one of them.

Eriiki, where did your brother work in the US? For an Alfa-place? Or doth I make mistake?

My list of Alfa love/misery:

'87 Milano/75 3.0, '82 GTV6, '86 GTV6, '91 164L, '67 Giulia Super, '98 156 2.0TS. Also had a sweet little Fiat Spider 124 rust bucket!

If Alfa ever makes it back to the USA I'll look forward to buying a newer one, provided there is a comprehensive warranty/service plan like my Audis had!

@kit - that's freaky, we've driven many of the same cars.

I've heard rumors that they might bring 'em back to the US ever since they picked up sales and momentum here in Europe around, what, 95-96 (when they won a few "car of the year awards" and all that)? But I seriously doubt it.

My brother worked at an Alfa parts exchange, called APE, in the Bay Area, where they would get crashed Alfas, salvage the intact parts, and ship them all over the world to those in need. So for any cars in a decent state, we would often buy them for cheap and sell them on after spending a bit of time with them.

I like you
oo wot colour?

@ Sin wot work does she need doing on her?

@Eriiki...i figured you meant APE. A good friend of mine used to work at Centerline in Boulder. I've bought parts from both places!

I'd like to see Alfa in the states since it's the world's biggest automarket. If they get the quality issues under control and figure out how to market them, they *should* sell nicely.

I used to have one of these roofs on my *ahem* Honda CR-X they give a great airey light feeling in such small cabins as the Brera (& CR-X)

@moonboot
I like you too

and its red of course, nothing else looked quite right

in fact I love ALL the Alfisti.

just met my chum for lunch we whizzed out in his GT 3.2 vroooooooom!
this is a pic of our cars in the showroom when we went to pick them up. we negotiated 12% 'diplomat's discount' nice or wot!

She's a bit bouncy on corners and the back-end gets out of shape far too easily in the damp. The suspension is ancient and needs changing, both dampers and springs. She should be more 'point-and-shoot'. After all, I bought the car in 1985 because of her legendary handling. Like driving a go-kart with 1960's Italian style.

oo quite a finnicky tricky job.
my Uncle got a wrecked early-70s MG he's done it up good and proper. I was zooming round the country roads in it this time last year what ho! brilliant!

good luck with it!

MG? Pah! Leaf springs and drums on the rear.

Horse drawn was it?

oy cheeky chops!
it's a midget & quite cute! in red my fave colour! bit like this'n:

The Title suggests a place for these Rust buckets.. So I found one for ya!

Are you implying that most old things should be thrown on the scrap heap?

No, not at all... after all, I would then have to relogate myself the the scrapheap!

But Shitty old rotboxes.. yeah!

Older Alfas (like most old cars) = rust:



New Alfas (like most new cars) = no rust:

I was just looking for something in my box of library photos when I came across a couple of pictures taken around '95-'97 at The Goodwood Festival of Speed.

Enjoy:

nice one WH!
my new ALFA's gotta go in for a service already (only had it 3 months!) got a stone chip in England right in the driver's vision on the front windscreen! had it fixed but it's about as bîg as a 50c piece and is quite annoying. will get a new windscreen

oo anyone else started seeing Breras around town? saw a sparkling red one zooming round town yday it was amazing! I want one!

Hi Moonboot,
apparently it's illegal here in Germany to 'fix' cracks in the Driver's side of the windscreen. Some of those 'fixers' who sit in car parks and use compounds to fill the cracks will give it a go, but when it's a large crack, then better to get the new windscreen.
At least you shouldn't have to pay the whole cost, most will be paid by your insurance.

As for the Alfas:
I remembered that one year of FOS featured lots of lovely old Alfas, but I could only find these two pictures. I thought I had taken more.
What I also found were lots pictures of stunning Ferraris, also taken at FOS in the 50th Anniversary year!

I would love to post a selection, but it doesn't seem right filling an Alfa thread with Ferraris.

WH

New Alfas also = Build quality that until the 159 has been questionable and a dealer network so fucking useless you'd be better off trying to build a time machine and travel back in time to a day when your car actually worked properly (i.e. the day you bought it).

Join the crowd - buy a BMW

shuttup!
car mags are full of the fact that AR is concentrating on improving quality in the last years.
even Top Gear's singing their praises.
Top Gear

BMW vs. ALFA, ALFA wins for me every time sorry.

Car mags? Top Gear? Pur-lease. Top Gear, as a magazine, is one step away from Max Power. Autocar, the oldest, and most respected, car publication in the UK (and arguably the world even) say that the 159 is a good car, almost as good as a BMW 3-series (to my mind beter looking for sure) but that unless Alfa sort their dealer network out still a potential ownership disaster.

Take one look at Alfa Romeo residual values and you'll see what I mean.

EDIT: (oh, and BMW vs Alfa for me, depends on which BMW vs which Alfa - BMW would probably win more than Alfa, but that's possibly because BMW have more models)

Jimbo, you are of course welcome to your opinion, which I know is shared by many - hence the number of people buying BMWs and suchlike. However, I have now owned 2 different Alfas for a total of around 7 years and never seen any of these so-called 'problems' that all BMW / Mercedes ... owners speak of.

However, if maintaining such a reputation is what it takes to keep the masses away from Alfas then I will not complain.
I do like driving something a little different to the masses!

WH