Hi All,
Just a thought. I wondered if you might be interested in a Daddy and baby group set up - perhaps once a month. The Dads could get together with the babies and us Mums could get together and have some fun for a change. As the good weather is coming (hopefully) the lads can get together in beergardens etc with the babies. Let me know if any of you are interested in such a group and I'll try to get things going.
Anna
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 3 2006, 1:26 pm
You think us guys are trustworthy enough to look after kids and be in a beergarden at the same time?
Hi
Well that remains to be seen. I know the fear of the loss of a vital part of ones anatomy would ensure my husband took wonderful care of our son

.
Anna
I like the biergarten bit.
Who is looking after my 2 year old again?
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 3 2006, 1:37 pm
Maybe we could put the oldest kid there in charge of the rest...
perdido
Apr 3 2006, 1:38 pm
QUOTE (Sin @ Apr 3 2006, 2:34 pm)

I like the biergarten bit.
Who is looking after my 2 year old again?
Remember the füssball incident at the TB?
Amateurs. Daddies group at the biergarten. Club together for two of our friendly au-pairs to watch the wee ones in the play ground. You get out of the house. The frau gets out of the house. You give our au-pairs some pocket money and the kids have a blast. Bring cake, make it a party.
Sleepless - were you volunteering?
DDBug
Apr 3 2006, 1:43 pm
tsk - but don't tell the moms that the dads got out of actual babysitting by paying an au pair to watch the little ones. That will just result in an extra day of "ok, this time you watch the kid at home while I go out" (translation - now you see what it's like )
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 3 2006, 1:45 pm
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 2:43 pm)

Sleepless - were you volunteering?
Ach, there are older kids here than me...
exactly DDBug - you dont tell the Dads it didn't count til AFTERs - Its like two for the price of one innit.
Yes, the whole point of this exercise is for the Dads to see what us Mums (and some house-husbands) contend with on a daily basis. Surely there are at least a handful of you capable of showing that men aren't the useless ********** us women tend to think you are. This would be an opportunity for you to prove it to yourselves too.
Jenny L
Apr 3 2006, 1:50 pm
This whole thread is a bit confusing to me. You want the dads to watch the kids so that the moms can get together and have fun. So the dads are supposed to take the kids to the beergarden... but isn´t that where the moms would go to have fun?

That´s where I´d go to have fun anyway... any mommies sans kids that want to go kick a few back with me at a beergarden are more than welcome.
boomtown_rat
Apr 3 2006, 1:51 pm
QUOTE
us Mums could get together and have some fun for a change
this implies that the Dads get together and have fun often and the mums can't/don't. Why do you let that happen?
Jenny L
Apr 3 2006, 1:52 pm

I love boomtown_rat.
Hi Jenny,
The point is that the Dads get to bond with the little ones and we aren't the first port of call.
boomtown_rat
Apr 3 2006, 1:54 pm
QUOTE
showing that men aren't the useless ********** us women tend to think you are
why not just make sure you get together with a decent guy in the first place rather than having a crap one and then complaining about him

sorry I'm probably hijacking the thread so I should probably clear off but I find it a bit disturbing/strange when people happily perpetuate classic male/female roles and then complain about it
perdido
Apr 3 2006, 1:55 pm
It explains why I am still unmarried
eurovol
Apr 3 2006, 1:57 pm
QUOTE (boomtown_rat @ Apr 3 2006, 2:54 pm)

why not just make sure you get together with a decent guy in the first place rather than having a crap one and then complaining about him
br beat me to it. What he said twice over!
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 2:48 pm)

Surely there are at least a handful of you capable of showing that men aren't the useless ********** us women tend to think you are.
I beg to differ.
DDBug
Apr 3 2006, 1:57 pm
br - All men are crap after a full day of dealing with a baby/kiddo

I didn't like doing the kid in the beergarden thing when mine were little, too much stress. And honestly, like the dads weren't going to drink beer with the kids around?
I just threw parties with like minded parents in my backyard. Only had one family we couldn't invite back. Still do these things, but now my kids are older, so it's safer to take them places and I don't need the mess of the party in the backyard anymore...
Boomtown rat, who was complaining??? Are you one of the crap guys you were thinking of?
I am fortunate enough to have a fab other half which is why I would entrust him with the care of our little one (and the fear factor makes this work even better).
Jenny L
Apr 3 2006, 1:58 pm
Hey Anna,
Yeah, I understand that. I think it´s a nice idea. I have always had a hard time understanding all of the mommy groups that constantly want to meet up with their kids. There should be more "Mommies Drink Night" meet ups. It´s nice to be able to talk about motherhood (or NOT talk about motherhood for a change) without the kids always being there.
DDBug
Apr 3 2006, 2:00 pm
Shoot - the mom's should chip in for the au pairs then, hit the beergarden, leave the menfolk at home to "fix things" and be the designated driver/child carer at the end of the day.
gideon
Apr 3 2006, 2:00 pm
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 2:31 pm)

I know the fear of the loss of a vital part of ones anatomy would ensure my husband took wonderful care of our son .
but if you have a son its not realy technicaly that vital anymore is it?
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 2:48 pm)

This would be an opportunity for you to prove it to yourselves too.
but didnt we do that by helping you concieve the kids in the first place?
Gideon - how can you be so sure???
boomtown_rat
Apr 3 2006, 2:04 pm
I suppose its basically a good idea but the presentation is perhaps a bit lacking.
QUOTE
who was complaining???
As for the complaining, well:
QUOTE
us Mums could get together and have some fun for a change
showing that men aren't the useless ********** us women tend to think you are
these two are based solely on your choice(s) of the way you want to run your life and who you want to run it with - so I don't see the point in painting some picture of a hard done to martyr really. I just really dislike gender based stereotyping really to be honest...I'm probably overreacting though
QUOTE
Are you one of the crap guys you were thinking of?
probably. I'm really anti womens rights and think their place should be at home chained to the cooker...you'll see that streak in me shining through if you read my posting history
QUOTE (perdido @ Apr 3 2006, 2:38 pm)

Remember the füssball incident at the TB?
Yes. And Eirik will NEVER forgive you for it. We had a cozy chat on the
U-Bahn ride home where I explained that if Madame Sin asked what happened, it was all Perdido's fault.
Topsy
Apr 3 2006, 2:06 pm
boomy woomy
cinzia
Apr 3 2006, 2:07 pm
I'm with you, JennyL. More gals' get-togethers!
Anna, let me know if you organize something. I'd at least be happy to come along with the ladies! I don't know if hubby would want to do the group-childcare thing with the men or not, but if not, he's happy to do solo parenting when I go out.
boomtown_rat
Apr 3 2006, 2:08 pm
QUOTE
The point is that the Dads get to bond with the little ones
shouldn't they be doing that as a matter of course?
Boomtown rat - what is your problem? Have you nothing better to do? Besides, I thought you were leaving back on page one.
DDBug
Apr 3 2006, 2:10 pm
Maybe he's just thinking that an event like this shouldn't be such an exception to the rule, it should be par for the course.
I'm startin' to like this idea.
- We get rid of the wives.
- We go to a biergarten.
- We use the age of our sons to be close to au pairs.
I'M IN!
Line the au pairs and drinks up and don't tell the wife.
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 3 2006, 2:11 pm
Aye, setting a good example for the little 'uns by getting pissed in front of them...
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 3:08 pm)

Boomtown rat - what is your problem? Have you nothing better to do?
At the risk of stating the obvious, I'd say that BR was taking part in the discussion, along with quite a few other people.
I'm a bit surprised you didn't "tell off" Jenny L as well since she made a comment similar to BR's before he posted.
gideon
Apr 3 2006, 2:29 pm
QUOTE (Anna @ Apr 3 2006, 3:03 pm)

Gideon - how can you be so sure???
because my sons have inherited alot from me. they drink like fish, would rather smack someone than have a sit down hipie chit chat, and have large penisis. oh and the exagerate the truth all the time.
QUOTE (Sin @ Apr 3 2006, 3:10 pm)

- We get rid of the wives.
- We go to a biergarten.
- We use the age of our sons to be close to au pairs.
now that is a much better selling pitch. anna i hope your learning from mr. sin here.
Sorry Gideon. I forgot to add:
- Wives have a whip-round to pay for the bier.
Carry on.
hockeywidow
Apr 3 2006, 2:33 pm
anna,
good idea!!! It would be a little easier for my husband as we have a 9 year old to help look after the 2 year old. If he is ever in the country when this is happening I am sure he would love to go... or I would love for him to go...either way its a date
bluedave
Apr 3 2006, 3:00 pm
Can those of us without kids here still go along to the beer garden with the au pairs ?
Nope. You have to join a 9 month waiting list.
perdido
Apr 3 2006, 3:03 pm
QUOTE (Sin @ Apr 3 2006, 3:10 pm)

I'm startin' to like this idea.
- We get rid of the wives.
- We go to a biergarten.
- We use the age of our sons to be close to au pairs.
I'M IN!
Line the au pairs and drinks up and don't tell the wife.
ooh ooh I need to borrow someone's kid...
Wow! I'm really shocked at how plain stupid some people can be. Anna is obviously trying to start something that I have heard many talk of but never actually get going. And what happens - a load of petty people hijack the post and turn it into something nasty. Are some of you so bored that you sit at your pc's waiting for any post to come up just so you can vent?
Anna - Sounds good to me and we'll be up for it. I'll pm you.
Jenny L
Apr 3 2006, 3:04 pm
@perdido- I´ll rent you my kid out for the afternoon, if you´d like.
cinzia
Apr 3 2006, 3:04 pm
Hear, hear, Star.
Join the 9 month waiting list with bluedave Perdido and let me get back to training my son in his skirt lifting and bra unfastening techniques.
Oh Star and Cinzia!
Please don't get all funny about this. I seriously am up for a biergarten trip with the lads and our sons. I think Anna has the right idea. I'm just adding extra 'fun' to the discussion.
...and at the same time I haven't even bitten on some of the undercurrents. For everybody's information, I don't require to 'bond' with my son, or to spend 'quality time' with him. We bonded from the moment I first held him in my hands, and 'quality time' runs to many hours every day... before and after work, and most of the weekends.
I suspect that many other dads here are the same.
cinzia
Apr 3 2006, 3:11 pm
I'm beginning to think that Sin ought to organize this event. Anna, I am really surprised at the level of interest shown by the daddies here.
You just let us know when, and where to drop off the kids and au pairs, then, Sin.
SleeplessInMunich
Apr 3 2006, 3:11 pm
Can we pick the au-pairs?
Sin? Organise?
First time I've ever seen those two words used together.
What does it mean?
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