The rules of footpath and cyclepath usage

AAAAaarr, Im gonna end up in a fight if I dont learn the rules of lights, footpath and cyclepaths etc. Maybe theres a part of my brain that just cant absorb the ways, but neverthrless I was hoping that some old TTers can help me out. Does walking and crossing roads really have to be this organised???

Yes.

No.

Maybe.

Sometimes.

Never.

Always

Occasionally.

Depends.

Dunno.

indubitably

Dontcha just love being helpful?

Always

And even that doesn't help, Dangers of cycling around Munich (old thread, more to be found via search function).

That would depend if you have to correct permit from the Fahradamt..
Before you are allowed to ride your bike in Munich you must get a bike permit...
Head on down to Poccistrasse on Monday and get it sorted...

They're doing a special first Saturday of next month.

Is this a JOKE or for real?? permit to ride ordinary bicycle??

very serious . you also need a special permit for travelling by bike outside munich . you can send in your application by post

My son will finally get his youth bicycle license this spring. No more following him around!

The form is available from the Postoffice. Its the Bu11-5h1t/tt

Why on earth does one need a permit?? and for riding outside of Munich?? what if you live in just outisde of munich city but ride into munichCity everyday??

I don't doubt your honesty Coolerking, but are you sure this is not a joke???

ok just saw Grinners post

as i live out in the countryside with less coppers, i've got away with it for 5 years but... my wife keeps telling me i'm pushing my luck.

You need separate permits; one for Munich and one for the neighbouring Kreis. As mentioned earlier, you can get the application form for these at the Post Office.

wow! this is ridiculous! i didn't know about the permit. i ride my bike to get the kids from school and things and the fam i work for never has said i need a permit or anything. they're like oh take the bikes today when you go to school so i do...

do the permits cost anything?

I've just heard that theres bike controllers at Hauptbahnhof.they seem to be out in force at the moment.take care

The permits cost €39 per person per year. Children's permits cost €19. Some people do try and get away without paying for them, but that's more risk than I'm prepared to take. The police do spot-checks from time to time. And if they stop you for crossing on red or riding at night without lights and you don't have a valid permit, the fines can get pretty steep.

I've heard red bikes get stopped more often than any other colour. Can anyone back this up?

I was stopped last autumn. I never even heard of a permit. I was also stopped in the English Garten outside of the actual city limits coming into the city. Since they saw me coming from out of the city I was hit with two charges. I tried to complain with a letter, but it was no help. The fines are 80 euro in the city without, and forty euro outside the city limits. They may be different now.

Cops usually setup checkpoints near Odensplatz, catching riders going
into and coming out of the Ped. zone. They also walk up/down kaufringer str. between Marienplatz and Karlsplatz...

Permits are issued on a Kreis level. (Aka: Munich,Ebersberg,Erding,etc.)
so if you live in one kreis and ride to Munich, then you will need 2 permits. One for each Kreis you ride thru.

If you are on a bike tour or something that will take you thru many landkreis, and will only need it for
a few days, then you can get the 3,5,7 or 14 day permit that covers all of Germany.. Im not aware
of the prices for these permits, but the people at Poccistrasse should be able to help you out..

this is aboslutely ridiculous!!! i've heard of bike license at home- more or less to register your bike w/ the police incase it's stolen, but that's it!

I still have a valid licence for 2006 if anyone wants it for 15 €. The problem is your bike can not be used to pull any form of carrier. But other than that it is the full licence.

They offer bicycle license programs in the schools here - third or fourth grade, depending on if you are in the city or in the country. They even have all the street crossings and stuff painted on the ground in the school yard for when they take their tests.

I have a trailer on my bike but most of the time when they stop me to check my permit they let me off with a warning about not having a permit for my trailer as well.

I guess I should get one, They only cost liek 5€ extra or something.

I might take that spare permit off your hands, brokenm. I do have a permit for my main bike, but I should really have one for my spare bike as well, just in case.

As pointed out, the first Saturday of next month is the best day to apply for such permits.

good effort but i don't think that anyone is taken in

Ask mere

Remember it is not illegal until you get caught!

Go look at a school yard - painted with all the traffic markings.

okay okay- yeah so i never said i was smart or anything... soon at least i'll, hopefully, wiseup and be 'smart' enough to not believe any of you ever!
(thanks nice people for pointing out how gullible/idiot i am- now that it was pointed out i get it-- the form names...)

geez spoilsport, there's one on every playground.

I'm going to take a picture of the school grounds today.

Its true about the painting on the school playgrounds. I have seen it here before while riding around randomly. I even cycled through some of the pretend junctions, like a 'tard.

Good job it was in the middle of nowhere and I could not be seen

I never denied the markings in the recess yards. It's like Driver's Ed in the US only younger.

I took a "safe cycling course" last year and gained my certificate at the end of it. The course teaches you the following essential techniques for city riding.

- How to totally ignore all street signs, traffic lights and directions whilst narrowly avoiding those that do not
- How to ring your bell in the most annoying fashion, perferably starting 2 miles before you have to use it (that repetitive "ding, ding, ding" bell works best)
- How to cycle along the lanes as fast as possible and use things like cars, pedestrians etc.. as breaking aids instead of your actual brakes
- How to safely plough into passengers trying to board buses and crossing the cycle lanes
- How to weave in and out of traffic in a seemingly uncontrollable fashion and lightly scraping any car that dares block your path
- How to ride in the middle of the road and completely ignore anyone behind you in a car who is legitimately trying to overtake you.
- Learning to shout phrases such as "I have just as much right to use the road as you" in several different languages..

The TÜV runs out on my bicycle next month.. any one know the cheapest place to get a new one.. or any Dodgy garages that will just issue one for Cash. I dont think mine will pass, as I have a no GS stamped rack on the back.

Thanks in advance!

G

In my volkshule class my teacher actually told us to ignore all the signs in the aldtstadt.

Bring it to me Grinner and I will draw you a new one If done in the style of Klimt the Germans would never suspect it is a forgery.