Milosevic found dead in his cell at The Hague

Yahoo reports: Milosevic may be dead


Edit: Confirmed:
Slobodan Milosevic Found Dead in His Cell

Yup, it's on Sky too.

On the one hand it's a shame the trial couldn't be completed but then on the other hand I'm sure a lot of people will be happy to put the whole thing behind them. Don't know whether or not some will feel a lack of closure but it's done now anyway.

Justice is served by Mother Nature

Depending who or what mother nature is...

It's nice that he's dead, though. One more off my list of people that I wish would kick the bucket. ...but what I really want is all of them to go within like a week, so that the news coverage couldn't focus on each one...

Well, that was a waste of over 1 billion dollars.

I know this is a bit morbid but i wonder who will be next?

Famous people tend to die in threes.

Edited. I just find it odd that the rumor still exist of Rad(forgot his name) is about to be turned in. I think Milosevic was knocked off. I will accept an autopsy report..this is just my opinion.

Maggie Thatcher ?

I hope it's a current politician *cough*

I think this turn of events will make it more difficult to have Radovan Karadžić and Ratko Mladić turn themselves in. Milošević's supporters (who are their supporters, too, I suppose) now believe that there's been foul play, and even if the autopsy shows that he died from natural causes they'll probably say that he was "killed" by the West anyway since his recent request for medical treatment in Russia was turned down.

Fingers crossed

Now, I know that this will be controversial, but I've worked with, and known the odd Serb, and they say something totally different about Milosevic ("Well, they would, would they?" I hear you saying). I never did get to the bottom of the whole debate because I left that company before we were done, but I gather that old Slobberchops may have been painted in slightly darker colours to assist the painting of the full picture from our artist in The West. I would really like to know what Serbs feel at this moment... and why?

That'll take a stake through the heart!

time to reel out one of my favourite jokes:

Q: What do you call a Serbian prostitute
A: Slobberdown Mecockyerbitch

well, it made me laugh

There's gonna be the usual conspiracy theory blah-blah. Let us remember that he had been ailing for the last year or so - but not suffering enough by a long shot.

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Conspiracy is too big a word. Convenient would be more apt. His long-halted trial was due to re-commence for the final session on Tuesday. I'm not saying he was innocent, but I would very much like to have seen justice not only done, but to be seen to have been done.

Will they repatriate his body? Will he have a hero’s funeral in Belgrade. That would piss me off.

No he will not have a Hero's funeral. He was overthrown by one million Belgrade residents and they won't allow that to happen.

My friend was actually in the crowd that stormed the parliament on 5 Oct 2000. The anger for Milsevic is still present to this date.

It has been reported that Foul play is suspected.. possibly poisonng.

The autopsy will take place in Russia, if the request is accepted.

They will not allow a Russian autopsy! That would be foolish.

Well I actually believe someone from Serbia did it. To be more direct someone from his circle of friends placed a hit on him, or he killed himself (remember a few years back when "The Tiger" was assanitated by someone in this same circle). This would create the conspiracy level thus making Serbia more reluctant to hand over future criminals. Personally I wished he was still alive so he could be brought to justice(I mean the final outcome of the trial).

Who thinks that he pulled a Göring and poisoned himself? I hope he saw what was coming, no matter what it was.

The guy did have a dodgy ticker. Who will ever know?

CRIENGLISH.com Serbia-Montenegro Asks for Participating in Autopsy of Milosevic

I can see it all now: West says heart, East says foul play.

What to do?

Blame it on his foul heart. But he had all the exterior symptoms of a heart patient and has been under stress. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

The whole conflict was so confusing i think even to the serbs and bosnians and croats, all of the other groups...i don't think there is will be a clear hero's welcome for milosevic in one camp and pure hatred in the other...my grandfather was serbian and i have spent many summers as a kid in a village by novi sad...then i went back in 2002...back in the 80s, to us coming from bread/sugar-line-filled russia yugoslavia looked like the perfect little place, with friendly people, great food, prosperous towns and similar languages, mom and i thought of moving there, until in 1991 war planes started circling the tisa river...i guess that's partly why i ended up in the US
but going back in 2002... everyone was bitter and confused, infrastructure broken down, buildings collapsing...my grandfather passed away, my godfather missing, my grandpa's 2nd wife (in northern serbia) had taken in bosnian refuges, as many of her neigbors...and all of them confused yet very friendly to eachother, one of these refugee women telling me of the night in bosnia years back, when they were supposed to keep watch, mostly only women left in the village, but among them were orthodox serbs, bosnian muslims and a croat catholic woman. and no one knew against whom exactly they were to keep watch...

people in belgrade seemed more bitter at milosevic, than the rural folk but also very bitter at the west. my aunt also protested against him in 2000, apparently he knew of a lot of allied bombing targets, and managed to save his kids, without disclosing them to regular folk (such as the tv station/tower that went down while milosevic's daughter escaped earlier) but serbs in small towns would simply shrug their shoulders and ask me "why, you americans do this to us?" so many casualties in the bombing of serbia...and i felt like crap looking at this old little ladies, my own identity churning in my tummy...but mostly everyone, old, young, rural, urban just called milosevic's successior- kostunica, an ass-wipe. whatever that indicates...

Persik- like a pandora's box then?

blame those trying to help you out of suppression? Blame those trying to help rebuild a country destroyed by a war? Oh, I could go on, but now I need to go read what the Afghan people are doing to the nice Canadian and American Soldiers trying to help them out!

i am not sure what you mean, but i don' think that bombing innocent people, burning up their infrastructure, keeping them without running water for 3 months is called "trying to help out of suppression"!! besides, the very same refugees who tried to make their new home in serbia after bosnia fell apart, got another round of devestation in the form of NATO's "help" in 1999...that affected everyone, and a lot of those who had absolutely nothing to do with the former convicts/mafia thugs who mostly commited the awful acts of genocide.

Has the US actually "helped" Serbia recover afterwards? I thought that most US aid payments have been withheld due to "lack of cooperation" with the war crimes tribunal?

All I know is that Serbia is messed up place. All my serbian friends, who opposed the war or who were even in the revolution that overthrew Milosevic, are suffering from the aftermath of the war. They have their future shattered in front of their very eyes and can't do a fucking thing about it.

Based on what I heard from my friends, no, nobody helped Serbia to rebuild, Germans or Americans.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that.

Hang on. Milosevic just turned round and did to the bloody Albanians what the Albanians had been doing to the Serbs (i.e. slaughtering them) for the previous few years before anyone in the west started to give a fuck. God knows why the Serbs ended up getting bombed. Maybe because "The West", pushed by the ever increasing number of bleeding heart liberals and lefties within its ranks, wanted to show that they don't really all hate muslims (i.e. the Albanians) and that they can show solidarity with them against other Christians (i.e. the Serbs).

Its just been anounced on Sky news that he may have commited suicide

@ Danny

And also Catholic (Croats) against Orthodox (Serbs). How many people remembered the Ustasha movement which systematicaly slaughter half a million serbs?
"
1. One third of the Serbs in the Independent State of Croatia (ISC) to be catholicized
2. One third of the Serbs to be expelled out of ISC
3. One third of the Serbs in the ISC to be liquidated"

Although it is very long time ago, but I undertand the angers of Serbs as I understand my fellow men's against Japanese. One never make a "clap" with just one hand.

Actually, tom_a is right - the US did cut off its aid to Serbia a couple of years ago.

Which is utter, utter bollocks of course. He was dead set (pardon the pun) on showing the kangaru court for what it was. As the tribunal was based on hard fact (as opposed to hype from bleeding heart liberals and lefties) the court was not going to reach any kind of meaningful conclusion and he was quite rightly going to have been set free.

Wouldn't surprise me if he'd been bumped off. because of that.

Dutch pathologists are said to have found medication against tuberculosis and leprosy in Milosevic's body. This right after M.'s legal adviser had published a letter written last Friday, a day before M. was found dead in his cell, stating that M. thought he was being poisoned. Draw your own conclusions.

this is disrepsectful to women.
i find it offensive and it should be moved to adult chat immediatly.

Yahoo: Moscow funeral for Milosevic
BBC: Serbia 'blocks Milosevic burial'

Where ever he ends up it will turn into a shrine for his followers. Look at Rudolf Hess' grave in Wunsiedel, they have honest to goodness pilgrimages every year. Not to mention that his wife is not safe leaving Russia as she is wanted for corruption:
"Serbian officials indicated that they would leave in place an Interpol warrant for the arrest on corruption charges of Mirjana Markovic, Milosevic's widow, who lives in Moscow. That would in effect prevent her from returning to Serbia for his funeral if it were held there." (LA Times, March 14, 2006).
So the family is more or less pushing for a funeral in Russia. Why not put him in the Mausoleum with Lenin? I agree, M. never managed to kill as many people as the Communist regime in the Soviet Union, but he didn't have the same human resources.

BBC: Milosevic to be buried in Serbia

If you receive an email claiming to contain pictures proving that Milosevic was murdered, don't open it. It's a virus.

The Register: Slobodan Trojan poses as murder pics

surprising how many people turned out...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4819158.stm

Well... there was a lot more to the Milosevic tale than we'll ever know. Sure, he was a baddie in the eyes of most of us (I'm not condoning him). The 'extra' demonisation didn't help anyone's objectivity, and now so many questions will remain unanswered.

I have no idea if Milosevic's condition was manufactured or if he was genuinely ill, and if he was poisoned as has been claimed or he had a heart attack from illness and/or stress. None of us in TT know. It is well recorded that he begun to suffer heart problems in July 2002, so the reported heart attack is 100% plausible.

The sad thing remains that Milosevic was so close to being ungagged. So close to revelations. He died 4 days before the summing up of his trial was due to begin, and 5 days after Milan Babic had 'committed suicide' in his cell. 12 days later the world still does not know how Babic allegedly took his own life.

So what do we know? We know all about the Vance-Owen peace plan of April '93. We know that Milosevic wanted peace at the moment. We know because Lord Owen stood up in the dock in The Hague on November 3rd 2003 and told us that in April '93 Milosevic was ready for peace and had no control over the pro-Serbian factions in Croatia and Bosnia. So what happened? Why didn't we make use of Milosevic's influence and wish for peace? Why did the whole sorry mess end up in Kosovo 6 years later?