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Getting out of German TV license payments

How to avoid paying the GEZ fees

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bubblylady
Although I moved into a new place I am still paying fricking GEZ Gebühren (TV/Radio fees). I know, my flatmates don't pay for it either, which is irrelavant anyway as we all have income so theoretically we would all have to pay.

Does anyone know if they come to the new place to check if you really don't have a TV/Radio anymore? I still have a radio in the car which I will not tell them...
Of course I will not let them in, but sometimes they just catch you at the door etc
Does anyone know what happens, if they find out?
Elfenstar
GEZ thread

i deregistered my t.v. they sent me a letter verifying i meant what i said. they did stop by many, many months later and i said, nope still no t.v.
Kza
I dont answer my door for any uninvited guests. The 2 times I have done that it was a druggy trying to sell magazines or something, and the second guy was the GEZ guy. It was much easier to deal with them by speaking only english not german, I just told the GEZ guy I wasnt interested in his TV channels cos I cant even understand them and I dont have a TV.

I have strong beliefs against paying for something that I never asked for, I do have a TV, but I dont watch the tv channels, I only have it connected to the computer. I do have a radio in the car but I only play MDs never listen to the radio. So I dont consider what I am doing as stealing in anyway.

Sure, if it was a legitimate government department, and the revenue came through taxes thats one thing, but this is a private company, with a legal mandate to force people to buy their product!

But if you watch the channels bubbly, I think you should pay.
Maisflocke
And if you have receivers capable of reception of Radio & TV, KZA, you should pay too!

Like it or not, what you are doing is illegal.
The GEZ fee is not for the right to watch or listen - it is for the right to posess the hardware.
Hazza
The GEZ fee is not for the right to watch or listen - it is for the right to posess the hardware.
That's a ridiculous charge. Why should you pay for that? You've already paid for the actual hardware - you don't pay a similar charge to have the right to own a washing machine or an iron.

Fuck 'em...I do use my TV to watch the channels here, but I'm not paying the GEZ - for a start, I never watch ARD or ZDF (the only channels which actually benefit from this scam).
parnell
I have a tv (but keep it unplugged in my basement) , I just called them once and explained that I didn't watch any German po.. , i mean tv here and don't have a car. They didn't bother me anymore and my conscience is clear so I'm surprised it
's about possessing hardware , I told em I had a phone and a pc... I'd pay if I had to (I think ).
Maisflocke
That's a ridiculous charge.  Why should you pay for that?  You've already paid for the actual hardware - you don't pay a similar charge to have the right to own a washing machine or an iron.
I suppose you have a car, but could not be bothered to tax or insure it either...
after all you already paid for the car.
You also have a gun, but could not give a toss about getting a gun licence, because you already paid for it.
Or your dog, why do you need a licence for a dog when you have already probaby paid for it?

Like it or spike it - "there are some things in life you have to right to freely possess, for everything else there is public authorities"
3 Lions
The GEZ fee is not for the right to watch or listen - it is for the right to posess the hardware.
This is in the other thread.

If this fee is the right to own a TV or radio, then you would have to produce a license when you buy a TV, otherwise it would be illegal to sell to someone without one.

To buy a gun you need a license, simple, you cant own a gun without one.

You can own a car without tax, insurance and even a license, you just couldnt park it on the street or drive it legally.

As far as I'm concerned the license is the right to receive TV broadcasts, if you are doing so then you should pay. Kza that means you too, you naughty boy

The radio license is a joke and should be scrapped.
Kza
Kza that means you too, you naughty boy
Its ok, im not receiving television broadcasts. Antennae cable isnt even connected, thus preventing any equipment from even being able to receive television broadcasts. I just watch downloads and dvds. Im sure GEZ will still insist I have to pay though. The biggest crime of all is obeying unjust laws!
bubblylady
Hey, I know all that. Personally I do think I should pay, which I have done.
But know i am moving to a shared flat where i don't have my own TV. I still have a TV in my room but there is nowhere to plug in. Actually I already paid till June by accident, although I moved out in February. They won't give you money back. Not happy
There is one TV in the living room we all use, but the main tenant of the flat said she is not willing to pay.
The only thing I have the bad conscience about is the radio in the car.
I couldn't find the other thread because the word you type in the search has to be more then 4 characters long... GEZ isn't.
Thanks Elfenstar!
3 Lions
The only thing I have the bad conscience about is the radio in the car.
Dont feel bad about that, like I said, the license for the radio is a joke. I got a digital radio bought me as a present last Christmas...well wonderful present, I am supposed to go and buy a license now and I never listen to radio!!
Elfenstar
glad i could help bubbly.

i would suggest you tell your flatmate that you would share the GEZ for the t.v. cause if you all get caught it is her responsiblity since it is her t.v. and you could then say "i offered to pay half".

i do pay radio.

BTW, i still have my address in stuttgart and the GEZ found me in munich, obviously, and knew somehow that i had two addresses, but i only pay one fee. my customer # was the same and everything.
Hazza
Actually I already paid till June by accident, although I moved out in February. They won't give you money back. Not happy
Bunch of crooks...Say what you like, but I'm not giving them a cent.
natasa
I was wondering about that one myself. I just got the letter saying I should register my TV and Radio (if I had one). Actually, I am not willing to do that, but I´ve heard stories that they drive by with a vehicle with antenna on the top and they can register the signal (or crap like that) and if they catch you they can fine you up to 5000 bucks. With my luck, I will be the one who´ll end up paying it.
Hazza
They can't detect a TV in your place with a van

Their TV detectors are the people that come around.
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