McDonald's admits their french fries...

Fury over Fries.

Fries headed for court.


Forget the fucking gluten, my nephews and niece all have galactosemia. McDonald's was one of the only restaurants that they thought they could go to safely. My sister had contacted McDonald's numerous times to check lastose content of all their food stuff. They assured her that there was no milk or milk byproducts in the french fries and now it is revealed that they have been slowly poisoning her kids.

OK, fair enough, they should disclose info on ingredients, especially lactose and gluten and stuff but..

Clearly she's pissed off about the "food" that McDonalds have been providing to her kids. Well, was she expecting McD's to form part of a healthy diet or what? Screw the fact that the fries are nothing more than fat soaked rubbish with zero nutritional value, forget the overloads of salts and sugars...its a few grams of milk powder per ton of fat thats the problem!!


I do get what you're saying, but quite frankly, McDonalds have been slowly poisoning EVERYBODY for years.

So those of us who are alergic to gluten get fucked aye???

I feel sorry for your niece and nephew as I know how hard it is to watch foods for your allergies, but I dont think people actually realize how hard it is for celiacs as well. It is not just wheat that we cant eat, it is gluten which is in so many things that you would never even think it to be in. And for some it can have extreme reactions.

I do not eat at McDonald's but I do not think it was fair to make the statement you made.

Just remember - we cant drink beer - that should be punishment enough for us

MacDonalds was not poisoning her kids, she was. She is responsible for what her kids eat, not MacDonalds.

I think the "forget the fucking gluten" was a comment to the fact that McD are accused of having milk products, and in their defense, they make statements about the University of Nebraska verifying that their fries do not contain gluten. Not a comment aimed at peeps who cannot eat gluten

but she had checked with McDonalds several times how can it be her fault?

Yippee! Something else to cry about

Galactosemia is not an allergy. With allergies, if you quit being exposed then you quit having a reaction. With lactose, it builds up in them and can cause blindness, mental retardation, a host of serious complications and even death! I am not saying "fuck celiacs" or "fuck trans fatty acid bad cholesterol", but I am saying that the articles are leaving out one of the most dangerous aspects of this as if it didn't exist.

I do agree, and I don'T wanna mock those with dietary needs, but checking whether or not McD's fries have milk powder in them (milk powder is also, I beleive, less of a problem for lactose intolerants than straight milk) is a bit like phoning up Marlboro to check that their cigarettes are low in calories.

eurovol - point taken (and accepted) - I just think you could have worded it a bit differently (like maybe fuck McD's)

maybe someone shoudl sue McDonalds because their milkshakes don't contain any milk.

Not politically correct warning:

Chicken and egg situation. Would we be retarded to take your kids to MacD's in the 1st place or is it as a result of Galactossemia we became retarded, because took we took our kids there and ate the filthy crap.

Huh? McDonald's? What's this all about?

Listen... why not purchase at the counter and take the tray directly to the toilet? Flush that shit straight down. Cut out the middle-man.

Only logic really. You know it makes sense

Why dont they Volumise their Fries with Potato?

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What is Classic Galactosemia?

Classic Galactosemia is a rare genetic metabolic disorder. The child with classic galactosemia inherits a gene for galactosemia from both parents, who are carriers. Patients who inherit the classic galactosemia gene from each parent are sometimes described as having the genetic makeup "G/G". Normally when a person consumes a product that contains lactose (e.g., dairy products such as milk, cheese, butter), the body breaks the lactose down into galactose and glucose. Glucose is the sugar used by the body for energy. Galactosemia means too much galactose in the blood caused by the individual "missing" the enzyme (known as GALT) to convert galactose into glucose. This accumulation of galactose is a poison to the body and can cause serious complications such as the following and if untreated, as high as 75% of infants will die:

* an enlarged liver
* kidney failure
* cataract
* brain damage
The Parents of Galacosemic Children website that my sister is majorly involved in.

They call up every restaurant to get the information and some even post here for others to see.
Restaurant Tips for Galactosemics.

Shoot me down, but last time I checked McDonalds sold products based on Potatos, Meat and Bread.

People seem to go bonkers about McDonalds even existing, but don't complain that cigarette manufacturers and alchol producers both peddle their products to us, and many of us indulge openly in those. That is before we get onto the whole drugs issue.

I don't smoke. I don't drink that much. But I do eat McDonalds and I don't actually think they "poison" me any more than some of the other crap in supermarkets.

Wouldn't it be fab if none of us smoked, drank, too drugs, and had the exact correct BMI index.

Clearly if they have been misleading about the ingredients then that is wrong, and they need a kicking - but there are worse offenders.

I could go a McFresh right now. Yuuuuuum

I believe that if you want to care what you eat, prepare the food yourself. Or as in the case with Eurovol's contention, you should be able to trust a company that states that they do not have these ingredients in the food.

Yeah right. So now I gotta grow carrots in the garden, and keep a few pigs and chickens etc of my own so that I can be sure my products ain't been treated with hormones or genetically engineered.

Whooppps - even that don't work 'cos now my healthy chickens are gonna kill me with bird flu.

Remember people - Life is a Terminal Disease.

Go on, have a McDonalds - you might get hit by a bus tomorrow!

Mate - if I ate as much McDonalds as I fancied then the bus would come second.

The thing is that when they call them up, they identify themselves being with the Galactosemia Org. They call up all vendors of food and request specifically the info on dairy content. This goes for what is sold in the stores as well. Some will not divulge the info and claim secret ingredients, but those go on the no-no list. As for cooking it yourself, you would be amazed at what is done in the preparation of meats for instance. Did you know that they inject meats with a solution that contains milk byproducts and salt to enhance the flavor? Many stores in the states do this with all their pork and poultry.

When a corporation tells the Parents of Galactosemic Children that their food is dairy free and are lying about it, then they are poisoning those kids!

So why single out McDonald's... why not sue all of them?

BECAUSE MCDONALD'S FUCKING LIED ABOUT IT!

Jeez people, get a clue!

The thing is, we are responsible for what we put in our mouths. However, any company in the business of feeding people should be required to list everything that is in the food products they provide.

I think it is a pretty cut and dry case.

As far as feeding our children goes, what is this woman doing feeding her children processed, fast food so often ESPECIALLY if she knows they have food sensitivities to start with?

Another stupid parent, so many of them and I have so little time to critisize them all. Going to parent night meetings at my son's school gives me ample opportunity for shaking my head.

McDonalds is still around because there is a consumer demand for it. People need to quit throwing responsibility for themselves onto other individuals, the government or companies. I assume this woman is going to sue McDonalds---HUGE surprise there.

I just read something yesterday about the decline of McDonald's in the US. Apparently, they are closing some of their restaurants because they are not considered "hip" among young people anymore. What ever happended to "I'm luvin it" ?

woah dude.
I thought you were insinuating that supermarkets lie as well. I apparently read wrong.
my bad. no need to scream.

I personally have never seen a label on a meat package that says anything about being injected with milk byproducts or salt for flavor.

Eurovol is just a little crabby because he's frantically been doing research and still hasn't found a way to blame on the Bush Administration for all this.

I am upset because their lies affected my relatives. This is very serious and yes I hope my sister sues. In this case it is appropriate and not frivolous. They intentionally lied about the added ingredients when specifically asked by the Galactosemia Organization. That is unnacceptable!

Whoa. Heavy news. Think I'll stop eating at McDonalds.

...wait a minute...

"If you want to keep your own teeth, make your own sandwiches."
--Jeanette Winterson.

Eurovol,

In skimming over the post, I missed the part that it was your sister. I would have been a little more diplomatic and not said "stupid parents"--although I do think there are alot of stupid parents out there.

I apologize if I insulted you.

@danarae

when you are dealing with kids with food allergies it is very hard if not almost impossible to eat out. My cousin also has severe food allergies but there was a resturant that said it didn't have the products she was allergic to then she would go there. Eating home cooked meals gets very boring if your food choices are limited.

I would be upset for the lies as well. But I don't know if sueing will help in anyway. Your sister would have to show actual damage. From my understanding children with galatosemia, it is only the first few years of development where the diet is important. After the age of three years, many children go on normal diets without further problems. But to show that your nephews were damaged by McDonalds, I would think that your Sister or sister-in-law would need to provide evidence that the levels that your nieces/nephews ingested were the causative for any deleterious effects. This is quite difficult. Maybe it is better if she brings awareness to this issue and contacts other fast-food chains where her children eat, spend the time/energy on a fight worth winning.

well this thread has put me in the mood for a McDonalds burger at lunchtime now - only a couple of hours to go

I'm just gutted that they stopped those mean ass cheeseburgers with a cheese bun, 2 beef patties, 2 slices of cheese and a cheese sauce...yum even tho they may have been baked in milk or something before hand to enhance the flavour.

Hey Timmeh, now you can go to Burger King and get a Cheeseburger covered in BBQ sauce with fried onion rings on top...all for 99 cents! Eat up before you live off sammies again!

I only just read they dont even make the kiwiburger anymore Cunts! Although I guess the cost of the meat would have skyrocketed when kiwis went endangered.

Yeah, i must say I already had a couple when I was trying to find other things to do apart from going to work yesterday...funnily enough I was also promoting them to anyone who would listen at the Arc lastnight.
Looking fwd to those toasted sammies tho...egg & sweet thai chilli sauce. Yum.

That was the only decent burger from Maccers I reckon...egg and beetroot are essential on any burger. You listening Hazza?

Your understanding is absolutely and completely WRONG! Go read the link that I provided or even WIKI if you prefer. It is life long and there is a direct causal relationship that is well known and documented. They will never ever produce the GALT enzyme that breaks down lactose. Period.

As for the gluten, there are these TTers affected as well.
Treatment for bloated stomach & acid indigestion
Gluten-free pasta and pizza found
Potato Starch

As for nutritional value, that is a completely different story. In that story, not a single one of you who drinks beer, wine, alcohol and gets drunk can say word one about other's choices in unhealthy eating unless of course it is against marmite or vegemite.

Not wrong just different. And I think your absolute stances on most topics weakens your points.

An Updated Review of the Long-Term Neurological Effects of Galactosemia

Keith R. Ridel BS⁎, Corresponding Author Contact Information, Nancy D. Leslie MD† and Donald L. Gilbert MD MS‡
Pediatric Neurology
Volume 33, Issue 3 , September 2005, Pages 153-161

"Crome observed in 1962 that “it is well known that established mental retardation tends to remain refractory in cases of galactosemia, even after the withdrawal of galactose from the diet, in spite of the reversibility of other signs, e.g. cataracts, hepatic cirrhosis, enteritis, and jaundice� [68], an observation often repeated in ensuing decades [86], and one which raises questions about the value of galactose restriction after early childhood.

Consistent with the notion that strict dietary treatment after early childhood may not be needed, a recent, somewhat controversial case report [87], [88] and [89] described an adult galactosemic on a normal diet since age 3 years, with only mild cognitive impairment and ovarian failure. This outcome lies within the range of outcomes of patients on life-long galactose restriction. If typical neurologic outcomes may occur despite being untreated with dietary restriction since childhood [87], then the role of galactose restriction after infancy on neurologic outcomes may be less important.

Because dietary galactose restriction has been the standard of care, and is without a doubt lifesaving during early infancy, performing a randomized controlled trial to assess the influence of dietary treatment in early infancy on chronic neurologic outcomes is not possible. A randomized study of graded amounts of galactose in later childhood or adulthood could possibly be safe, but institutional review boards might be unlikely to approve this, and families unlikely to participate in controlled studies where some patients are randomized to not receive standard galactose restriction. However, several alternative quasi-experimental study designs could provide useful information."

So. Chicken McNuggets are the SAME SHAPE no matter where in the world they are served and some fat-assed woman from Texas (the "fattest" state in the US) is moaning about the quality of the fries?

I bet she cannot complain in person cos her ass got wedged in her chair and she has been unable to move since. Plus, even if she did manage to get up she would not make it through the door. Her kids have been packed off to fat camp to try and downsize from the 400 pounds that fast food has helped put on their frames (oh no, hang on, they are probably big-boned or it is hereditery) and her husband ain't gettin involved and is too busy putting up those fucking ridiculous "support our troops" flags all around the garden to be really that interested. The woman will get interviewed on the local news a proclaim how McDonalds has forced her to clean herself with a rag on a stick or something.

Ooooh, I dunno
If my diet did not have as much fresh produce in it, I'd never be able to drink as much beer as I do. My woman reckons I should eat more fruit, and drink less beer. The way I see it, whats the point in eating fruit, UNLESS its healthy vitmains and shit enable me to drink more beer?

Did somebody say Marmite?

Food of the gods. I've even started eating your poor English substitute over here in my desperation for my marmite fix. Nothing tops a butterbretze with a healthy thick coating of marmitey goodness.

I could think of one thing better on top of a butterbretze.

Oh shut up please. I just cum in the office.

When I click that link, I go to Bluedave's post...you can have him on a butterbretze, I'll stick to marmite thanks mate.

Ok, it SHOULD click to the Women on Top link. I've never met bluedave, but I bet he isn't as salty as marmite.

You are fucking sick, and should be fucking shot.

On a lighter note, doesn't the evil pervasive poison that is marmite actually polluzte your body enought o make your skeet taste like yeasty black smeg? Just do a few months of yoga so you're nice n bendy mate, and you could prove that perpetual motion is possible.